Agree or Disagree? Black people in America would be stronger, if segregation remained in America.

[Mister B.]

I believe if we were allowed to create our own system in America, we would be fine.....for a while. Whether or not that would be sustainable over centuries is the question.

Unfortunately, we as a whole value the Eurocentric point-of-view and validation too much.

 

[Westie]

If white people were shipped back to Europe so they didn't burn down black people's shit then maybe.

 

[blakfyahking]

Black people dont have the mentality to create and support thier own today. We worship european handbags and belts too much.

Black people dont have the mentality to create and support thier own today. We worship european handbags and belts too much.

cars nigga

cars too.

^^^SMH @ these two feminine subliminal posts

so only black people shouldn't enjoy nice handbags or belts..........and we should all drive buckets? :lol:

I don't recall there being any black owner luxury item manufacturers

and when Lavar Ball tried to sell some luxury shit, the same hating mofos had something negative to say about it

even while sitting there proudly with Nikes on their feet haha

 

[leftcoastkev]

The things is we are still segregated.. this "integration" never happened.. nor did it create the conditions to foster it.

Unfortunately the perception of integration (the illusion of inclusion) has a sizeable % of blacks on that "we are not a monolith" frame of mind especially in times of crisis instead of being forced to be on the same page.

 

[ThaNubianGod]

Threads like this reminds me of how little real history people seem to know these days. Segregation was garbage for us. Every Redneck's fantasy is to bring that shit back. The main driving force of cops harassing/abusing us was to enforce segregation, and to still promote it in certain communities even after it ended.

And it wouldn't even solve our real problem which is we don't support each other. $1 trillion in GDP and do we invest and build our own shit? Nope, we give it to other groups, then whine that we got no power or influence.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Black people dont have the mentality to create and support thier own today. We worship european handbags and belts too much.

Black people dont have the mentality to create and support thier own today. We worship european handbags and belts too much.

cars nigga

cars too.

^^^SMH @ these two feminine subliminal posts

so only black people shouldn't enjoy nice handbags or belts..........and we should all drive buckets? :lol:

I don't recall there being any black owner luxury item manufacturers

and when Lavar Ball tried to sell some luxury shit, the same hating mofos had something negative to say about it

even while sitting there proudly with Nikes on their feet haha

niggaaaaaa

who the hell summoned you?

you always come cartwheeling out just so counter my shit...

the thread is about something an i see a problem I pointed out. stop being so defensive.

sublimal? nah nigga. don't give yourself so much credit.

I call a nigga out when needed. I don't sit an wait for certain people.

an yes...I am proud of my cheap ass sneakers....you still missed the point on that ...while also missing my point in the lavar thread. but all you see is hating? lol. overpriced is overpriced no matter the brand and lets not get back started on lavar.

opposing views are always welcomed by me...I'm always up for a debate...

but you.....seems your only objective is to prove me wrong....sounds suspect but ehh. I don't hate on the gays.

 

[blakfyahking]

Black people dont have the mentality to create and support thier own today. We worship european handbags and belts too much.

Black people dont have the mentality to create and support thier own today. We worship european handbags and belts too much.

cars nigga

cars too.

^^^SMH @ these two feminine subliminal posts

so only black people shouldn't enjoy nice handbags or belts..........and we should all drive buckets? :lol:

I don't recall there being any black owner luxury item manufacturers

and when Lavar Ball tried to sell some luxury shit, the same hating mofos had something negative to say about it

even while sitting there proudly with Nikes on their feet haha

niggaaaaaa

who the hell summoned you?

you always come cartwheeling out just so counter my shit...

the thread is about something an i see a problem I pointed out. stop being so defensive.

sublimal? nah nigga. don't give yourself so much credit.

I call a nigga out when needed. I don't sit an wait for certain people.

an yes...I am proud of my cheap ass sneakers....you still missed the point on that ...while also missing my point in the lavar thread. but all you see is hating? lol. overpriced is overpriced no matter the brand and lets not get back started on lavar.

opposing views are always welcomed by me...I'm always up for a debate...

but you.....seems your only objective is to prove me wrong....sounds suspect but ehh. I don't hate on the gays.

cut the shit bruh.......I just call out bullshit when I see it

u take weak wristed shots all the time and then play victim whenever someone points it out

then u lift ur skirt like always and try to deflect

the reason me and u disagree is cuz I can't relate to fake balling/flossing type niggaz

it's either u truly humble and don't give a damn about luxuries............or u a "baller" who money must be too short to really compete, that's why u hating on the next man in a better car than u :joy:

yeah u proud of ur sneakers cuz u a crab type nigga proud to wear Nikes.....meanwhile there are plenty of really cheap shoes u could wear instead since u so concerned about shit being overpriced

but don't mind me for pointing out the obvious flaws in ur logic as usual

 

[jetlifebih]

Imo the mindset changed from the time we landed on the shore....we went from having the "escape" mindset to "we are here let's make it work" mindset....went from trying to destroy the system to now trying to change the system....

So yeah I'd say intergration or the fake idea that we would be intergrated hurt us

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Black people dont have the mentality to create and support thier own today. We worship european handbags and belts too much.

Black people dont have the mentality to create and support thier own today. We worship european handbags and belts too much.

cars nigga

cars too.

^^^SMH @ these two feminine subliminal posts

so only black people shouldn't enjoy nice handbags or belts..........and we should all drive buckets? :lol:

I don't recall there being any black owner luxury item manufacturers

and when Lavar Ball tried to sell some luxury shit, the same hating mofos had something negative to say about it

even while sitting there proudly with Nikes on their feet haha

niggaaaaaa

who the hell summoned you?

you always come cartwheeling out just so counter my shit...

the thread is about something an i see a problem I pointed out. stop being so defensive.

sublimal? nah nigga. don't give yourself so much credit.

I call a nigga out when needed. I don't sit an wait for certain people.

an yes...I am proud of my cheap ass sneakers....you still missed the point on that ...while also missing my point in the lavar thread. but all you see is hating? lol. overpriced is overpriced no matter the brand and lets not get back started on lavar.

opposing views are always welcomed by me...I'm always up for a debate...

but you.....seems your only objective is to prove me wrong....sounds suspect but ehh. I don't hate on the gays.

cut the shit bruh.......I just call out bullshit when I see it

u take weak wristed shots all the time and then play victim whenever someone points it out

then u lift ur skirt like always and try to deflect

the reason me and u disagree is cuz I can't relate to fake balling/flossing type niggaz

it's either u truly humble and don't give a damn about luxuries............or u a "baller" who money must be too short to really compete, that's why u hating on the next man in a better car than u :joy:

yeah u proud of ur sneakers cuz u a crab type nigga proud to wear Nikes.....meanwhile there are plenty of really cheap shoes u could wear instead since u so concerned about shit being overpriced

but don't mind me for pointing out the obvious flaws in ur logic as usual

homotional.

 

[fortyacres]

lol @ wanting segregation, that is so dumb.

 

[jono]

lol @ wanting segregation, that is so dumb.

Its because most of them are too ignorant to really know what it was.

 

[Shuffington]

I hate to say it... but yes... this is a dumb question.

Segregation or integration... whatever you feel more comfortable with.... none of it matters when you're constantly under attack by a government, a system, or an institution, intending on destroying any notable progress black people make, whether its through imminent domain, blatant terror and rioting, or destructive policies that do our communities a disservice.

At the end of the day... just answering the original question in a since is allowing outsiders to decide how we as black people should be governed; Yielding power and authority to other groups who more than likely do not have our best interest at heart.

Its up to our communities to decide what makes since for our future and clearly that will require us to engage and resist simultaneously.

 

[blakfyahking]

Black people dont have the mentality to create and support thier own today. We worship european handbags and belts too much.

Black people dont have the mentality to create and support thier own today. We worship european handbags and belts too much.

cars nigga

cars too.

^^^SMH @ these two feminine subliminal posts

so only black people shouldn't enjoy nice handbags or belts..........and we should all drive buckets? :lol:

I don't recall there being any black owner luxury item manufacturers

and when Lavar Ball tried to sell some luxury shit, the same hating mofos had something negative to say about it

even while sitting there proudly with Nikes on their feet haha

niggaaaaaa

who the hell summoned you?

you always come cartwheeling out just so counter my shit...

the thread is about something an i see a problem I pointed out. stop being so defensive.

sublimal? nah nigga. don't give yourself so much credit.

I call a nigga out when needed. I don't sit an wait for certain people.

an yes...I am proud of my cheap ass sneakers....you still missed the point on that ...while also missing my point in the lavar thread. but all you see is hating? lol. overpriced is overpriced no matter the brand and lets not get back started on lavar.

opposing views are always welcomed by me...I'm always up for a debate...

but you.....seems your only objective is to prove me wrong....sounds suspect but ehh. I don't hate on the gays.

cut the shit bruh.......I just call out bullshit when I see it

u take weak wristed shots all the time and then play victim whenever someone points it out

then u lift ur skirt like always and try to deflect

the reason me and u disagree is cuz I can't relate to fake balling/flossing type niggaz

it's either u truly humble and don't give a damn about luxuries............or u a "baller" who money must be too short to really compete, that's why u hating on the next man in a better car than u :joy:

yeah u proud of ur sneakers cuz u a crab type nigga proud to wear Nikes.....meanwhile there are plenty of really cheap shoes u could wear instead since u so concerned about shit being overpriced

but don't mind me for pointing out the obvious flaws in ur logic as usual

homotional.

^^deflection as usual

but please share with us all why u chose a pair of Nikes instead of another pair of cheaper shoes since u so concerned about overpriced shit while u also claim to be a "baller" at same the time :joy:

but I get it, the "white man's ice is always colder" to u as another poster said on here

 

[blakfyahking]

hating ass niggaz like @2stepz_ahead are why we can never build our own shit and our kids continue to feel like we need white people.......how stupid/hypocritical would he be to cosign anything but integration

Lavar Ball stepped out there to build something of his own while mofos sat on the sidelines.......and mofos still hated when he was teaching his kids the value of owning their own shit, instead of being owned by somebody else

we don't need to be officially segregated to build our own shit, but it's too many virus niggaz out here who like to play both sides

they love using the black community for support when shit is hard, but when they feel like they got a lil bit of money or status them same mofos love being surrounded by crackas

 

[5th Letter]

Umar said some real shit recently on the Breakfast Club, black people are the only group that are thought being around your own people is bad and moving amongst whites is a come up.

 

[Plutarch]

I don't think it's a dumb question, simply because the question makes you think. But I do think it's a weird-ass question, not that there is anything really wrong with weird questions.

Like others have said, integration vs. segregation is largely irrelevant, i.e., if the goal is peace and prosperity (as it should be?). The real question is much deeper than segregation or integration.

I've always believed peace and prosperity starts with individual freedom. Sounds abstract, but I still think it's an essential rule that many unfortunately either forget or disregard altogether.

And I mean freedom from, not freedom to. Not just from government but from other larger forces, like even "the black community." If humans are prone to corruption, and power corrupts, then I don't see how anyone can believe that the evils (of white leaders) would just disappear if we segregated ourselves and had black leaders instead. Sounds way too optimistic to me. If anything, we need more leaders but less followers.

 

[jetlifebih]

I don't think it's a dumb question, simply because the question makes you think. But I do think it's a weird-ass question, not that there is anything really wrong with weird questions.

Like others have said, integration vs. segregation is largely irrelevant, i.e., if the goal is peace and prosperity (as it should be?). The real question is much deeper than segregation or integration.

I've always believed peace and prosperity starts with individual freedom. Sounds abstract, but I still think it's an essential rule that many unfortunately either forget or disregard altogether.

And I mean freedom from, not freedom to. Not just from government but from other larger forces, like even "the black community." If humans are prone to corruption, and power corrupts, then I don't see how anyone can believe that the evils (of white leaders) would just disappear if we segregated ourselves and had black leaders instead. Sounds way too optimistic to me. If anything, we need more leaders but less followers.

But shouldn't we be allowed our own land and our own right to make mistakes ??

What's wrong with that?

 

[ThaNubianGod]

I hate to say it... but yes... this is a dumb question.

Segregation or integration... whatever you feel more comfortable with.... none of it matters when you're constantly under attack by a government, a system, or an institution, intending on destroying any notable progress black people make, whether its through imminent domain, blatant terror and rioting, or destructive policies that do our communities a disservice.

At the end of the day... just answering the original question in a since is allowing outsiders to decide how we as black people should be governed; Yielding power and authority to other groups who more than likely do not have our best interest at heart.

Its up to our communities to decide what makes since for our future and clearly that will require us to engage and resist simultaneously.

Here's the problem. The system is itself isn't racist, it's just a process. The people running the system are racist/elitist as hell though. So segregating ourselves does nothing but give us even less control within the system.

What we should be doing is uniting as a group like Jews do(we have way more numbers) and start influencing the system in a big way. That's what we did pre-1970's, but then we decided to throw our influence into the party system. One that props up White leaders, and one where we get acknowledged a few months before an election every 4 years. We could control either of these parties or both for that matter. Our vote tips the scales like no other one in America. But we don't demand shit, we just look for nice "pat you on the head" type speeches of "outreach", and rinse repeat. We should have flatout demand an end to the Drug War years ago, and voted for whoever does that. Jews do it when it comes to Israel matters, Latinos with immigration, Muslims with their fuckery, Whites with their SJW bullshit, but we don't do a damn thing despite holding all the cards.

 

[Plutarch]

I don't think it's a dumb question, simply because the question makes you think. But I do think it's a weird-ass question, not that there is anything really wrong with weird questions.

Like others have said, integration vs. segregation is largely irrelevant, i.e., if the goal is peace and prosperity (as it should be?). The real question is much deeper than segregation or integration.

I've always believed peace and prosperity starts with individual freedom. Sounds abstract, but I still think it's an essential rule that many unfortunately either forget or disregard altogether.

And I mean freedom from, not freedom to. Not just from government but from other larger forces, like even "the black community." If humans are prone to corruption, and power corrupts, then I don't see how anyone can believe that the evils (of white leaders) would just disappear if we segregated ourselves and had black leaders instead. Sounds way too optimistic to me. If anything, we need more leaders but less followers.

But shouldn't we be allowed our own land and our own right to make mistakes ??

What's wrong with that?

Yes, of course!? That was my point. I'm not sure whether we're understanding each other.

But yes, we, as individuals (I really don't like the group/herd mentality) should be free to make our decisions and mistakes responsibly.

Of course, education is always an essential importance along the way that helps us not make those mistakes, but if we do, then we should hold ourselves accountable (with the exception of children).

As for land, I'm not sure what you mean.

If you're talking about private ownership, then of course. I'm 100% for that.

If you're talking about the 40 acres (and a mule), well, that's complicated, heh. I have a divided mind about reparations.

If you're talking about separatism or the carving out of America for a Black America, I'm also of a divided mind about that.

I'm just saying that it all starts from individual freedom from, imo.

 

[NoCompetition]

I don't think it's a dumb question, simply because the question makes you think. But I do think it's a weird-ass question, not that there is anything really wrong with weird questions.

Like others have said, integration vs. segregation is largely irrelevant, i.e., if the goal is peace and prosperity (as it should be?). The real question is much deeper than segregation or integration.

I've always believed peace and prosperity starts with individual freedom. Sounds abstract, but I still think it's an essential rule that many unfortunately either forget or disregard altogether.

And I mean freedom from, not freedom to. Not just from government but from other larger forces, like even "the black community." If humans are prone to corruption, and power corrupts, then I don't see how anyone can believe that the evils (of white leaders) would just disappear if we segregated ourselves and had black leaders instead. Sounds way too optimistic to me. If anything, we need more leaders but less followers.

But shouldn't we be allowed our own land and our own right to make mistakes ??

What's wrong with that?

Yes, of course!? That was my point. I'm not sure whether we're understanding each other.

But yes, we, as individuals (I really don't like the group/herd mentality) should be free to make our decisions and mistakes responsibly.

Of course, education is always an essential importance along the way that helps us not make those mistakes, but if we do, then we should hold ourselves accountable (with the exception of children).

As for land, I'm not sure what you mean.

If you're talking about private ownership, then of course. I'm 100% for that.

If you're talking about the 40 acres (and a mule), well, that's complicated, heh. I have a divided mind about reparations.

If you're talking about separatism or the carving out of America for a Black America, I'm also of a divided mind about that.

I'm just saying that it all starts from individual freedom from, imo.

Yeah your free to segregate yourself by "race". But...that is pretty hard to impossible to do in modern America. Also believe it or not the races were never really separate in America...due to Europeans forcing themselves on the others. So there seems to be a distorted understanding of segregation. That was less about real separation and more about using energy to try to keep people down...based on the color of your skin...makes a lot of sense and works great (obvious sarcasm smh) Which hurts the oppressor or perpretrator too.

This is a "come back here with me" topic. Who even sits around thinking about this. There is life to live in 2017.

People can choose who they want to associate with but as you said its personal choice. Maybe others dont want to limit themselves in those ways. All black people arent a monolith exactly the same...

Alright I went backwards enough to address this "topic" Im one who is about winning in todays world not going back to some theoretical and nonsensical...who knows what it is supposed to be.