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ChillaDaKilla;8414714 said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG-OM-8-UWk
this broad was bad as fuck if you talking about Cosplay girls
Khaleesi;8414615 said:Got AT&T to cancel our services without paying a termination fee.
I am a genius.
And I recorded that shit, so I DARE THEM to send us a bill with the termination fee.
We getting xfinity beeeeeeeach!
Trillfate;8414771 said:My boy helped put this together today and ask me to come through... i might
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Trillfate;8414791 said:Nah but i bet it ain't fuckin with ciroc
Delphas;8414843 said:Read this story about this white women who got scammed by a Nigerian and tricked into becoming a cash courier on the basis of some fake ass romance plot he concocted.
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White women lost.
Turfaholic;8414785 said:Trillfate;8414771 said:My boy helped put this together today and ask me to come through... i might
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Has anybody tried that Effen?
Trillfate;8414713 said:THICK Thursday
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Ubuntu1;8414927 said:This might be (no, it is) the pot calling the kettle black but I hate the existence of blatantly hypocritical hedonistic utilitarians and that might be the majority of them that I've come across online. Either they don't understand what the world view implies or they don't care. Everyone is and always will be relatively hypocritical and inconsistent but some of them don't acknowledge their hypocrisy or even think that moral realism not being true would negate the fact that they're being inconsistent. I mean ideologically inconsistent (ie. when it comes to their rejecting the concept of animal equality, not favoring an international economy where resources are distributed according to benefit alone - at least to the extent that they think H.U justifies promoting an H.U society-, supporting atrocities and necessary evils that aren't actually necessary evils as well as not at least recognizing them as 'evils' even if they do believe that they're necessary etc.) as well as in terms of their behavior and attitude (ie. callous and cold-hearted, not compassionate toward all individuals, implicitly value things other than pleasure, care about maximizing happiness on a 'wide scale level' but not the happiness of individuals in every day circumstances, not genuinely egalitarian, don't live or support a relatively vegan lifestyle, stuck on the idea that utilitarianism is 'logical' and the concern for happiness can be derived from impersonal logic or even 'duty' et cetera). I honestly wish that these people were libertarians, preference utilitarians, ascribed to the general vague and contradicting conventional morality or anything other than hedonistic utilitarians because I can't stand the value system being misrepresented, even by me. It's the most beautiful idea in the world. The only thing that distinguishes my ideology from theirs, I can take some comfort in this, is that I reject the concept of aggregating the happiness-suffering of separate individuals and I wish the non-aggregating but still anti-egoistic version of hedonistic utilitarianism was more well known.
It also bothers me that people associate Epicurus and egoism with 'hedonism'. I don't know how Epicurus rationalized his egoism because hedonism is inherently anti-egoist, it necessarily implies egalitarianism because pleasure is pleasure and pain is pain. It also also bothers me that people think 'pleasure' only applies to things like sexual pleasure and the pleasure of tasty food and not to feelings like love and spiritual experiences, 'pleasure' includes all positive and likable emotional states.
Ubuntu1;8414927 said:This might be (no, it is) the pot calling the kettle black but I hate the existence of blatantly hypocritical hedonistic utilitarians and that might be the majority of them that I've come across online. Either they don't understand what the world view implies or they don't care. Everyone is and always will be relatively hypocritical and inconsistent but some of them don't acknowledge their hypocrisy or even think that moral realism not being true would negate the fact that they're being inconsistent. I mean ideologically inconsistent (ie. when it comes to their rejecting the concept of animal equality, not favoring an international economy where resources are distributed according to benefit alone - at least to the extent that they think H.U justifies promoting an H.U society-, supporting atrocities and necessary evils that aren't actually necessary evils as well as not at least recognizing them as 'evils' even if they do believe that they're necessary etc.) as well as in terms of their behavior and attitude (ie. callous and cold-hearted, not compassionate toward all individuals, implicitly value things other than pleasure, care about maximizing happiness on a 'wide scale level' but not the happiness of individuals in every day circumstances, not genuinely egalitarian, don't live or support a relatively vegan lifestyle, stuck on the idea that utilitarianism is 'logical' and the concern for happiness can be derived from impersonal logic or even 'duty' et cetera). I honestly wish that these people were libertarians, preference utilitarians, ascribed to the general vague and contradicting conventional morality or anything other than hedonistic utilitarians because I can't stand the value system being misrepresented, even by me. It's the most beautiful idea in the world. The only thing that distinguishes my ideology from theirs, I can take some comfort in this, is that I reject the concept of aggregating the happiness-suffering of separate individuals and I wish the non-aggregating but still anti-egoistic version of hedonistic utilitarianism was more well known.
It also bothers me that people associate Epicurus and egoism with 'hedonism'. I don't know how Epicurus rationalized his egoism because hedonism is inherently anti-egoist, it necessarily implies egalitarianism because pleasure is pleasure and pain is pain. It also also bothers me that people think 'pleasure' only applies to things like sexual pleasure and the pleasure of tasty food and not to feelings like love and spiritual experiences, 'pleasure' includes all positive and likable emotional states.
OMEGA_CONFLICT;8414937 said:Ubuntu1;8414927 said:This might be (no, it is) the pot calling the kettle black but I hate the existence of blatantly hypocritical hedonistic utilitarians and that might be the majority of them that I've come across online. Either they don't understand what the world view implies or they don't care. Everyone is and always will be relatively hypocritical and inconsistent but some of them don't acknowledge their hypocrisy or even think that moral realism not being true would negate the fact that they're being inconsistent. I mean ideologically inconsistent (ie. when it comes to their rejecting the concept of animal equality, not favoring an international economy where resources are distributed according to benefit alone - at least to the extent that they think H.U justifies promoting an H.U society-, supporting atrocities and necessary evils that aren't actually necessary evils as well as not at least recognizing them as 'evils' even if they do believe that they're necessary etc.) as well as in terms of their behavior and attitude (ie. callous and cold-hearted, not compassionate toward all individuals, implicitly value things other than pleasure, care about maximizing happiness on a 'wide scale level' but not the happiness of individuals in every day circumstances, not genuinely egalitarian, don't live or support a relatively vegan lifestyle, stuck on the idea that utilitarianism is 'logical' and the concern for happiness can be derived from impersonal logic or even 'duty' et cetera). I honestly wish that these people were libertarians, preference utilitarians, ascribed to the general vague and contradicting conventional morality or anything other than hedonistic utilitarians because I can't stand the value system being misrepresented, even by me. It's the most beautiful idea in the world. The only thing that distinguishes my ideology from theirs, I can take some comfort in this, is that I reject the concept of aggregating the happiness-suffering of separate individuals and I wish the non-aggregating but still anti-egoistic version of hedonistic utilitarianism was more well known.
It also bothers me that people associate Epicurus and egoism with 'hedonism'. I don't know how Epicurus rationalized his egoism because hedonism is inherently anti-egoist, it necessarily implies egalitarianism because pleasure is pleasure and pain is pain. It also also bothers me that people think 'pleasure' only applies to things like sexual pleasure and the pleasure of tasty food and not to feelings like love and spiritual experiences, 'pleasure' includes all positive and likable emotional states.