According to Dr. Umar, the black church as a collective takes in $14 Million dollars every Sunday...

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AggieLean.;c-10119650 said:
jetlifebih;c-10119615 said:
i believe the number is lower than that

Although Multiple plates passed around multiple services....

Think about some of these mega churches in atl and ca

But not 14ms, maybe 4 mill a Sunday, however the funds could definitely be allocated in a better way....

But do we know how the funds are being allocated to even claim they can be used better?

I go to a small church. My pastor preaches on Sunday, and works a manufacturing job M-F’s, so he’s not “balling” like many on the outside would believe. I also pay tithes knowing some of it is going to the pastor & his wife. That’s fine, as I feel he deserves that but I also see my tithes being used to help out my community.

It’s the mega churches that make up the majority of that supposed money, and what they do with it; well we know it ain’t all good. I can’t even front, as I see those pastors in mansions, jets, etc.

Ive known two preachers like that and they live what the preach, so they've always gotten my respect. I dont recognize or think well of their religion, but they some standup dudes with it.

Trips me out how they just average and others be balling with it. I never cared to look into it, but i guess its all about how much you hustle it. Like other lanes of life.
 
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Elzo69Renaissance;c-10121267 said:
atribecalledgabi;c-10121080 said:
Elzo69Renaissance;c-10120681 said:
It's not about crooked preachers and etc....it's about a substantial amount of wealth directly leaving our community...without at least an exchange of goods....


How you know this isn't happening?

u know what goods are?

People don't eat or get clothes from a church? They coulda used tithe money to procure such items.
 
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atribecalledgabi;c-10121287 said:
Elzo69Renaissance;c-10121267 said:
atribecalledgabi;c-10121080 said:
Elzo69Renaissance;c-10120681 said:
It's not about crooked preachers and etc....it's about a substantial amount of wealth directly leaving our community...without at least an exchange of goods....


How you know this isn't happening?

u know what goods are?

People don't eat or get clothes from a church? They coulda used tithe money to procure such items.

Nvm I fucked up. I'm tired lol
 
there are crooked lawyers in this world whose sole job is to fuck people over

they make thousands and thousands of dollars from doing this

why is there no outrage for them?

my point is, there are shady folks in all occupations. I hold you responsible and accountable for your own relationship with your higher power.
 
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Turfaholic;c-10120388 said:
jono;c-10119808 said:
Where is that school? 10 years in the making, cuh.

I stopped checking for Umar when he got called out on this and responded by calling people haters. He spit wisdom though.

He one of them broke clock ass niggas. Say some ill shit twice a day buried beneath the multitude of bullshit.
 
Niggaz just believing what this nigga says all Willy Nilly

Any body that talks fast is a crook, same way as genuinely intelligent people write poorly because their minds are so active.

They speak clearly, calmly, and measure...as they can’t help but think very much about how to precisely get their point across to an audience so it’s not wasted time.

Niggaz that speak quickly. think too fluidly to give a fuck about if the audience gets what they are saying. So In actuality, their speaking just to speak. Which is a waste of brain function and purpose.

Something genuinely smart people hate to do that. Listen to Malcom X, Obama, MLK, Neil D. Tyson, Dick Gregory, Paul Mooney, speak.

 
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NCswag;c-10122165 said:
More. I know people that give half they check to the church (old established heads)

They're trying buy themselves into Heaven

While the preacher has his "heaven" on earth
 
AP21;c-10121321 said:
there are crooked lawyers in this world whose sole job is to fuck people over

they make thousands and thousands of dollars from doing this

why is there no outrage for them?


my point is, there are shady folks in all occupations. I hold you responsible and accountable for your own relationship with your higher power.

Come on nigga this some bullshit.

Lawyers been known forever to be fucked up people. That is the biggest complaint about them.

I think the issues with the church and preachers seems worst because what they are supposed to be representing.

God is supposed to be right and pure. Then you have crooked preachers preying on people based on their faith to that religion and God and it just seems worse than any other profession so they get the most scrutiny.
 
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AP21;c-10121229 said:
aneed123;c-10121033 said:
if they getting all that money every members bill shoukd be paid and no one should be homeless

every member huh?

no one should be homeless huh?

you dont know me like that fam...this a hill i will die on...you ready for this convo or nah?

yup every member... they paying they tithes struggling and poor whole the pastors ballin in jets and shit. backwards ass shit
 
aneed123;c-10122248 said:
AP21;c-10121229 said:
aneed123;c-10121033 said:
if they getting all that money every members bill shoukd be paid and no one should be homeless

every member huh?

no one should be homeless huh?

you dont know me like that fam...this a hill i will die on...you ready for this convo or nah?

yup every member... they paying they tithes struggling and poor whole the pastors ballin in jets and shit. backwards ass shit

IMO you placing blame on the wrong person for this type of situation.

 
obnoxiouslyfresh;c-10122107 said:
Turfaholic;c-10120388 said:
jono;c-10119808 said:
Where is that school? 10 years in the making, cuh.

I stopped checking for Umar when he got called out on this and responded by calling people haters. He spit wisdom though.

He one of them broke clock ass niggas. Say some ill shit twice a day buried beneath the multitude of bullshit.

Don't you go to a church with a crooked preacher?
 
D. Morgan;c-10122239 said:
AP21;c-10121321 said:
there are crooked lawyers in this world whose sole job is to fuck people over

they make thousands and thousands of dollars from doing this

why is there no outrage for them?


my point is, there are shady folks in all occupations. I hold you responsible and accountable for your own relationship with your higher power.

Come on nigga this some bullshit.

Lawyers been known forever to be fucked up people. That is the biggest complaint about them.

I think the issues with the church and preachers seems worst because what they are supposed to be representing.

God is supposed to be right and pure. Then you have crooked preachers preying on people based on their faith to that religion and God and it just seems worse than any other profession so they get the most scrutiny.

brah, thats life

there are people who take advantage of super impressionable people

its not exclusive to pastors
 
aneed123;c-10122248 said:
AP21;c-10121229 said:
aneed123;c-10121033 said:
if they getting all that money every members bill shoukd be paid and no one should be homeless

every member huh?

no one should be homeless huh?

you dont know me like that fam...this a hill i will die on...you ready for this convo or nah?

yup every member... they paying they tithes struggling and poor whole the pastors ballin in jets and shit. backwards ass shit

you DONT HAVE TO MAKE MONETARY TITHES

if you dont have it to give, dont give ...its that simple...what they gon do...kick you out?

People are missing the entire point of what the tithe is supposed to be anyway
 
AP21;c-10122272 said:
D. Morgan;c-10122239 said:
AP21;c-10121321 said:
there are crooked lawyers in this world whose sole job is to fuck people over

they make thousands and thousands of dollars from doing this

why is there no outrage for them?


my point is, there are shady folks in all occupations. I hold you responsible and accountable for your own relationship with your higher power.

Come on nigga this some bullshit.

Lawyers been known forever to be fucked up people. That is the biggest complaint about them.

I think the issues with the church and preachers seems worst because what they are supposed to be representing.

God is supposed to be right and pure. Then you have crooked preachers preying on people based on their faith to that religion and God and it just seems worse than any other profession so they get the most scrutiny.

brah, thats life

there are people who take advantage of super impressionable people

its not exclusive to pastors

Who said the shit was exclusive to pastors?

What other profession goes around telling people they were anointed by God and put themselves up on pedestals to be marveled at?

Show me what other profession has folks doing shit like this

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No matter the profession they are all wrong for preying on people.

I just completely understand why pastors and the church get it the worst out them all.
 
AP21;c-10122273 said:
aneed123;c-10122248 said:
AP21;c-10121229 said:
aneed123;c-10121033 said:
if they getting all that money every members bill shoukd be paid and no one should be homeless

every member huh?

no one should be homeless huh?

you dont know me like that fam...this a hill i will die on...you ready for this convo or nah?

yup every member... they paying they tithes struggling and poor whole the pastors ballin in jets and shit. backwards ass shit

you DONT HAVE TO MAKE MONETARY TITHES

if you dont have it to give, dont give ...its that simple...what they gon do...kick you out?

People are missing the entire point of what the tithe is supposed to be anyway

Actually yes nigga!!!

92-year-old woman kicked out of church for not tithing

BAINBRIDGE, GA (WALB) -

A 92-year-old woman is no longer allowed to worship at the church where she was a member for more than 50 years because she was not tithing.

Josephine King said that was the reason she was kicked out of Bainbridge's First African Baptist Church.

Her family members said they hope the situation will bring change to churches across the nation.

“Josephine King is no longer considered a member of the First African Baptist Church of Bainbridge, Georgia,” read Gerald Simmons, as he skimmed over the letter addressed to his aunt.

The letter, signed by Senior Pastor Derrick Mike, stated that Ms. King "has shown non-support" towards the church in the areas of "constant and consistent financial and physical participation."

"She was stunned. She was disappointed. She was shocked," said Simmons.

He said Ms. King was considered sick and a shut-in for several months, which was the reason for her lack of attendance.

He also said his aunt had gone above and beyond in the past to financially support the church.

"You shouldn't chase the individuals down," said Simmons. "You shouldn't do that. If that's the case, you're money hungry."

Simmons also noted that his aunt isn't the first person to receive a letter of removal for not tithing, and hopes her story will shed some light on the policy.

"You have to have money to make these churches run, but it's not about money,” Simmons said. "It's about God. You have to put God first."

Several requests for comment from the church were made, but no responses by officials or other members were given.
http://www.walb.com/story/29762845/92-year-old-woman-kicked-out-of-church-for-not-tithing

Here is one more

Florida church sends collection notices to ‘delinquent’ tithers

A Tampa woman is outraged after she says she received a collection notice in the mail from her local church ordering her to pay $1,000 in order to be considered a “member in good standing.”

“People were really friendly there, and I really enjoyed being there,” Candace Petterson, a single mother who has been attending the Greater Mount Moriah Primitive Baptist Church for six months, told a local ABC affiliate.

Ms. Petterson said things were going perfectly at her new church until she received a letter at her home last week.

“To be a member in good standing and have the right to vote, adults are to contribute the minimum amount of $50 per month,” read Ms. Petterson. “Fifty dollars per month, now this shocked me because I haven’t heard about the $50 per month. So where did this come from?”

“Then Mount Moriah Day is on there, $150,” she added, plus a yearly church anniversary fee of $250, brings the total to $1,000 in required donations per year.

Ms. Petterson said she was told one of the fees is to help pay off the church’s debts. She also learned that her daughter, 11, would also have to meet the financial requirements to become a member, ABC reported.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/16/florida-church-sends-collection-notices-to-delinqu/

 
AP21;c-10122273 said:
aneed123;c-10122248 said:
AP21;c-10121229 said:
aneed123;c-10121033 said:
if they getting all that money every members bill shoukd be paid and no one should be homeless

every member huh?

no one should be homeless huh?

you dont know me like that fam...this a hill i will die on...you ready for this convo or nah?

yup every member... they paying they tithes struggling and poor whole the pastors ballin in jets and shit. backwards ass shit

you DONT HAVE TO MAKE MONETARY TITHES

if you dont have it to give, dont give ...its that simple...what they gon do...kick you out?

People are missing the entire point of what the tithe is supposed to be anyway

dont matter... church spose to help folk.. quick to take folk money but give no fucks when u homeless or down and out. im still waiting on the youth gym my pastor lied about building for the youth members back in 94... they took all the folk building fund money tho. at the end of the day if it's really about caring outreach compassion etc... no member should be down and out if the pastor ballin... aint not if ands or buts bout it
 

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