A Serious Discussion About "African-American Culture"

[zzombie]

https://youtu.be/fDCHjInwoiA

not stating that hispanics created graf writing nigga but they did innovate it to an extreme degree many of the graf styles were created by hispanic people

 

[StillFaggyAF]

https://youtu.be/fDCHjInwoiA

not stating that hispanics created graf writing nigga but they did innovate it to an extreme degree many of the grad styles were created by hispanic people

You originally said hip hop was a joint effort between aas, wis, and prs . Which is it?

 

[zzombie]

https://youtu.be/fDCHjInwoiA

not stating that hispanics created graf writing nigga but they did innovate it to an extreme degree many of the grad styles were created by hispanic people

You originally said hip hop was a joint effort between aas, wis, and prs . Which is it?

I said hip-hop which is more than one artform, one aspect of hip-hop is graf art and within graf art their exist more than one aspect within it. Alot of the art styles in graf art were created by hispanic people graf art is not just writing your name on a wall

for example wildstyle graf art was not created by a african american

 

[jono]

Its some odd shit going on in here.

Niggas like "African Americans have no culture"but every time I turn around I see white folks sectioning our shit off from theirs

The BLACK church

"Urban" radio

BLACK english

"Urban" wear

HBCUs

BLACK History

"Urban" Art

Soul Food

But niggas don't have culture because of..rites of passage? Niggas what are Chinese rights or passage? What are Japanese rights of passage? Russian, English, Irish etc very few societies still focus on that archaic bullshit.

But it doesn't matter because just like white folks think these weirdo niggas believe Blacks in America have never done anything...ever. Anything we have ever done is attributed to either Africa, Whites or some Islanders even if its a massive fucking reach. Lol

This shit a troll thread disguised as a debate.

 

[zzombie]

Its some odd shit going on in here.

Niggas like "African Americans have no culture"but every time I turn around I see white folks sectioning our shit off from theirs

The BLACK church

"Urban" radio

BLACK english

"Urban" wear

HBCUs

BLACK History

"Urban" Art

Soul Food

But niggas don't have culture because of..rites of passage? Niggas what are Chinese rights or passage? What are Japanese rights of passage? Russian, English, Irish etc very few societies still focus on that archaic bullshit.

But it doesn't matter because just like white folks think these weirdo niggas believe Blacks in America have never done anything...ever. Anything we have ever done is attributed to either Africa, Whites or some Islanders even if its a massive fucking reach. Lol

This shit a troll thread disguised as a debate.

african americans do have a culture but you did not create hip-hop by yourself there is no reach in that it's just the reality of history.

 

[jono]

Its some odd shit going on in here.

Niggas like "African Americans have no culture"but every time I turn around I see white folks sectioning our shit off from theirs

The BLACK church

"Urban" radio

BLACK english

"Urban" wear

HBCUs

BLACK History

"Urban" Art

Soul Food

But niggas don't have culture because of..rites of passage? Niggas what are Chinese rights or passage? What are Japanese rights of passage? Russian, English, Irish etc very few societies still focus on that archaic bullshit.

But it doesn't matter because just like white folks think these weirdo niggas believe Blacks in America have never done anything...ever. Anything we have ever done is attributed to either Africa, Whites or some Islanders even if its a massive fucking reach. Lol

This shit a troll thread disguised as a debate.

african americans do have a culture but you did not create hip-hop by yourself there is no reach in that it's just the reality of history.

How you gonna take credit or give credit to other people for something that took place in NEW YORK by NEW YORKERS? You people who are immersed in the culture of the city of NEW YORK.

 

[semi-auto-mato]

the cultural studies have been done about African Americans. the world agrees its a very real culture. a few here don't. examples of a language, traditions, customs, beliefs, and habits are there. some have been talked about and some have not. the focus in this thread has been music.

OG is correct...y'all really don't wanna give AA credit for anything. someone else started it or they heavily influenced it. unique culture? there is no such thing anywhere. all cultures take from somewhere.

here is a really fucked up thing about African Americans. we are the only people who enjoy breaking down our people. we will even sit around and applaud other people for breaking us down.

hey man y'all know better than the world. we aint culture. we aint shit

That's bullshit i already have AA'S CREDIT for alot of shit but hip-hop did not come together only under african american hands.

blues, jazz,soul etc etc nobody can take that away from you that's clearly yours and everybody on the planet loves those art forms. Not to mention that in my mind the greatest black writers have been african american BUT hip-hop was really a coming together of different blacks

nah nigga u have took plenty of shots at us. to be honest the way y'all just kept going back and forth about hip hop was a great thread derail and straight disrespectful to the African american culture.

y'all can carry on..i'm good

quote me dissing african americans in this thread??? you can't do it can you???

nigga.. the whole hip hop discussion was disrespectful. u aint add anything to this damn thread. u been on some AA's aint create hip hop since like page 2. now u wanna derail the thread again on some quote me kiddie bullshit?

nah I said I'm good before u ass even get started...smh

it's disrespectful telling you the truth??? what you want me to say that african american by themselves created hip-hop culture even through there is more than enough proof that that is not the truth. the real disrespect would be me lying to you. niggas always want to bring up shit then when what to back down from it

I have no idea what the phrase back down means. I don't play games either. the hip hop back and forth was straight trash. a real pussy move to derail this thread. u had nothing of value to add to this discussion.

I said carry on. I also said im good. I don't fuck with certain types of niggas. u one of niggas that cant be told shit. y'all know everything. its no reason for me to go back and forth with u. find the another nigga to do that shit with. im good!

look nigga if you can't stand on your words with logic,sense and proof then you just talking shit, don't fucking tell me i disrespected AA AND THEN when i ask you how you can't fucking prove it.

I did not derail this thread if african americans are going to claim hip-hop as their culture than that claim need to be investigated. if it proves not to be true then it's a false claim.

I have a BA in History from Hampton University. to be a historian u must be a critical and logical thinker. you are discussing...no we all are discussing things here that can be answered by simply opening up a new tab and doing a search. you can go to a library and find the answers. the history of hip hop is well documented. we were told that knowing dates was cool but the question to ask is always why? if you ask yourself why was hip hop created you will understand the reason hip hop is considered to be african american. now take your logical, sensible, proof wanting ass somewhere and read a fucking book nigga.

The only reason hip-hop is considered to be african american is because all art and culture that originates from blacks in america is erroneously assumed to be the sole creation of african americans. much the same way the white culture in this nation just assumes all black people are the same the mainstream culture just assumed that all black art in america is only african american.

i asked why was hip hop created and this is us response? u just jumped straight to a conclusion. u didnt show your work or anything else. imma have to give u a D+ for this assignment. i would give u a F but i gave you points for determination.

be easy and enjoy the rest of ur night

LOL @ SHOW my work nigga this is not a math class it's not a class period because you are not teaching shit

Hip-hop was created because poor black people wanted to express themselves and have fun the melting pot of various black and hispanic people created hip-hop in nyc .

shame on u for thinking work is only shown in math. life is a class. u can always learn something new.

the kid from south america mentioned Bam to u and u went in on him. u didnt try to understand where he was coming from at all. u are way too concerned with proving ur points. u are so stuck on being right that it limits u. ur one of those dudes who knows a lil about a lot and think u know it all. like ghost said...i hate smart dumb niggas. i asked u a simple question and u made sure u said things like melting pot.. black and hispanic. i never said u were right or u were wrong. i said explore the why. continue to explore the why and it will help u understand.

 

[zzombie]

Its some odd shit going on in here.

Niggas like "African Americans have no culture"but every time I turn around I see white folks sectioning our shit off from theirs

The BLACK church

"Urban" radio

BLACK english

"Urban" wear

HBCUs

BLACK History

"Urban" Art

Soul Food

But niggas don't have culture because of..rites of passage? Niggas what are Chinese rights or passage? What are Japanese rights of passage? Russian, English, Irish etc very few societies still focus on that archaic bullshit.

But it doesn't matter because just like white folks think these weirdo niggas believe Blacks in America have never done anything...ever. Anything we have ever done is attributed to either Africa, Whites or some Islanders even if its a massive fucking reach. Lol

This shit a troll thread disguised as a debate.

african americans do have a culture but you did not create hip-hop by yourself there is no reach in that it's just the reality of history.

How you gonna take credit or give credit to other people for something that took place in NEW YORK by NEW YORKERS? You people who are immersed in the culture of the city of NEW YORK.

nigga what??? hispanics and west indians were immersed in the culture of nyc at the time hip-hop was coming together

what are you trying to say.

 

[zzombie]

the cultural studies have been done about African Americans. the world agrees its a very real culture. a few here don't. examples of a language, traditions, customs, beliefs, and habits are there. some have been talked about and some have not. the focus in this thread has been music.

OG is correct...y'all really don't wanna give AA credit for anything. someone else started it or they heavily influenced it. unique culture? there is no such thing anywhere. all cultures take from somewhere.

here is a really fucked up thing about African Americans. we are the only people who enjoy breaking down our people. we will even sit around and applaud other people for breaking us down.

hey man y'all know better than the world. we aint culture. we aint shit

That's bullshit i already have AA'S CREDIT for alot of shit but hip-hop did not come together only under african american hands.

blues, jazz,soul etc etc nobody can take that away from you that's clearly yours and everybody on the planet loves those art forms. Not to mention that in my mind the greatest black writers have been african american BUT hip-hop was really a coming together of different blacks

nah nigga u have took plenty of shots at us. to be honest the way y'all just kept going back and forth about hip hop was a great thread derail and straight disrespectful to the African american culture.

y'all can carry on..i'm good

quote me dissing african americans in this thread??? you can't do it can you???

nigga.. the whole hip hop discussion was disrespectful. u aint add anything to this damn thread. u been on some AA's aint create hip hop since like page 2. now u wanna derail the thread again on some quote me kiddie bullshit?

nah I said I'm good before u ass even get started...smh

it's disrespectful telling you the truth??? what you want me to say that african american by themselves created hip-hop culture even through there is more than enough proof that that is not the truth. the real disrespect would be me lying to you. niggas always want to bring up shit then when what to back down from it

I have no idea what the phrase back down means. I don't play games either. the hip hop back and forth was straight trash. a real pussy move to derail this thread. u had nothing of value to add to this discussion.

I said carry on. I also said im good. I don't fuck with certain types of niggas. u one of niggas that cant be told shit. y'all know everything. its no reason for me to go back and forth with u. find the another nigga to do that shit with. im good!

look nigga if you can't stand on your words with logic,sense and proof then you just talking shit, don't fucking tell me i disrespected AA AND THEN when i ask you how you can't fucking prove it.

I did not derail this thread if african americans are going to claim hip-hop as their culture than that claim need to be investigated. if it proves not to be true then it's a false claim.

I have a BA in History from Hampton University. to be a historian u must be a critical and logical thinker. you are discussing...no we all are discussing things here that can be answered by simply opening up a new tab and doing a search. you can go to a library and find the answers. the history of hip hop is well documented. we were told that knowing dates was cool but the question to ask is always why? if you ask yourself why was hip hop created you will understand the reason hip hop is considered to be african american. now take your logical, sensible, proof wanting ass somewhere and read a fucking book nigga.

The only reason hip-hop is considered to be african american is because all art and culture that originates from blacks in america is erroneously assumed to be the sole creation of african americans. much the same way the white culture in this nation just assumes all black people are the same the mainstream culture just assumed that all black art in america is only african american.

i asked why was hip hop created and this is us response? u just jumped straight to a conclusion. u didnt show your work or anything else. imma have to give u a D+ for this assignment. i would give u a F but i gave you points for determination.

be easy and enjoy the rest of ur night

LOL @ SHOW my work nigga this is not a math class it's not a class period because you are not teaching shit

Hip-hop was created because poor black people wanted to express themselves and have fun the melting pot of various black and hispanic people created hip-hop in nyc .

shame on u for thinking work is only shown in math. life is a class. u can always learn something new.

the kid from south america mentioned Bam to u and u went in on him. u didnt try to understand where he was coming from at all. u are way too concerned with proving ur points. u are so stuck on being right that it limits u. ur one of those dudes who knows a lil about a lot and think u know it all. like ghost said...i hate smart dumb niggas. i asked u a simple question and u made sure u said things like melting pot.. black and hispanic. i never said u were right or u were wrong. i said explore the why. continue to explore the why and it will help u understand.

I went in one him only after he got disrespectful without being able to prove his point this whole BAM CREATED hip-hop mythology ends to die. dude being all the way in brazil and spitting back that myth as truth is more reason for me to crush that myth.

when someone is wrong the only thing you can learn from them is why they are wrong so you don't fall into the same hole.

 

[jono]

Its some odd shit going on in here.

Niggas like "African Americans have no culture"but every time I turn around I see white folks sectioning our shit off from theirs

The BLACK church

"Urban" radio

BLACK english

"Urban" wear

HBCUs

BLACK History

"Urban" Art

Soul Food

But niggas don't have culture because of..rites of passage? Niggas what are Chinese rights or passage? What are Japanese rights of passage? Russian, English, Irish etc very few societies still focus on that archaic bullshit.

But it doesn't matter because just like white folks think these weirdo niggas believe Blacks in America have never done anything...ever. Anything we have ever done is attributed to either Africa, Whites or some Islanders even if its a massive fucking reach. Lol

This shit a troll thread disguised as a debate.

african americans do have a culture but you did not create hip-hop by yourself there is no reach in that it's just the reality of history.

How you gonna take credit or give credit to other people for something that took place in NEW YORK by NEW YORKERS? You people who are immersed in the culture of the city of NEW YORK.

nigga what??? hispanics and west indians were immersed in the culture of nyc at the time hip-hop was coming together

what are you trying to say.

What that got to do with anything? Niggas been rapping and beat boxing and doing graffiti for decades before hip-hop was even considered its own subculture, you confusing people helping to popularize it with creating it. People took things to the next level but they didn't create it.

 

[Shizlansky]

If you ever said some shit like

"That's white ppl type shit" then you would know that AA have our own culture.

 

[zzombie]

Its some odd shit going on in here.

Niggas like "African Americans have no culture"but every time I turn around I see white folks sectioning our shit off from theirs

The BLACK church

"Urban" radio

BLACK english

"Urban" wear

HBCUs

BLACK History

"Urban" Art

Soul Food

But niggas don't have culture because of..rites of passage? Niggas what are Chinese rights or passage? What are Japanese rights of passage? Russian, English, Irish etc very few societies still focus on that archaic bullshit.

But it doesn't matter because just like white folks think these weirdo niggas believe Blacks in America have never done anything...ever. Anything we have ever done is attributed to either Africa, Whites or some Islanders even if its a massive fucking reach. Lol

This shit a troll thread disguised as a debate.

african americans do have a culture but you did not create hip-hop by yourself there is no reach in that it's just the reality of history.

How you gonna take credit or give credit to other people for something that took place in NEW YORK by NEW YORKERS? You people who are immersed in the culture of the city of NEW YORK.

nigga what??? hispanics and west indians were immersed in the culture of nyc at the time hip-hop was coming together

what are you trying to say.

What that got to do with anything? Niggas been rapping and beat boxing and doing graffiti for decades before hip-hop was even considered its own subculture, you confusing people helping to popularize it with creating it. People took things to the next level but they didn't create it.

Rap Is a certain style of poetry not just spitting poetry over music.

Who created hip-hop a bunch of different people and nationalities in NYC. There's a difference between graffiti and hip-hop graffiti. There's a difference between a dj and a hip-hop deejay. There's a difference between acrobatic dancing and break dancing.

 

[rip.dilla]

So what I've noticed in this thread is one or two Black Americans speaking down on Africans while the Africans have been more or less cordial and respectful in their responses.

And then they say Africans are the haters LOL.

I'm Nigerian and have been a HipHop fan since I was 10 years old. It's origins haven't nullified my love for the culture

My screen name recognises one of the greatest HipHop producers in history

The silly divisions really need to stop

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

So what I've noticed in this thread is one or two Black Americans speaking down on Africans while the Africans have been more or less cordial and respectful in their responses.

And then they say Africans are the haters LOL.

I'm Nigerian and have been a HipHop fan since I was 10 years old. It's origins haven't nullified my love for the culture

My screen name recognises one of the greatest HipHop producers in history

The silly divisions really need to stop

Maybe its a part of our "culture" for some of us AA to be disrespectful.

Haha

 

[StillFaggyAF]

So what I've noticed in this thread is one or two Black Americans speaking down on Africans while the Africans have been more or less cordial and respectful in their responses.

And then they say Africans are the haters LOL.

I'm Nigerian and have been a HipHop fan since I was 10 years old. It's origins haven't nullified my love for the culture

My screen name recognises one of the greatest HipHop producers in history

The silly divisions really need to stop

Maybe its a part of our "culture" for some of us AA to be disrespectful.

Haha

Alot of yall sound no different than cacs ehen it comes to other types of black peopld

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

So what I've noticed in this thread is one or two Black Americans speaking down on Africans while the Africans have been more or less cordial and respectful in their responses.

And then they say Africans are the haters LOL.

I'm Nigerian and have been a HipHop fan since I was 10 years old. It's origins haven't nullified my love for the culture

My screen name recognises one of the greatest HipHop producers in history

The silly divisions really need to stop

Maybe its a part of our "culture" for some of us AA to be disrespectful.

Haha

Alot of yall sound no different than cacs ehen it comes to other types of black peopld

Apparently that's a part of OUR culture, and I'm a self hating coon for questioning it....

Hmm

 

[D. Morgan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9BKXQ8ROlw

I'll check this out when I get home.

@Judge_Judah you watch the video yet?

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9BKXQ8ROlw

I'll check this out when I get home.

@Judge_Judah you watch the video yet?

I knew there was something I forgot....

 

[wugag]

So what I've noticed in this thread is one or two Black Americans speaking down on Africans while the Africans have been more or less cordial and respectful in their responses.

And then they say Africans are the haters LOL.

I'm Nigerian and have been a HipHop fan since I was 10 years old. It's origins haven't nullified my love for the culture

My screen name recognises one of the greatest HipHop producers in history

The silly divisions really need to stop

Maybe its a part of our "culture" for some of us AA to be disrespectful.

Haha

Alot of yall sound no different than cacs ehen it comes to other types of black peopld

Word reading this thread this shit crazy some of yall ride harder on other black ppl than yall do white supremacy/supremacist, which is Cointel pro 101. "Barefoot island rat" like really sound like some white boy shit you would find on one of those white supremacy boards.

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

So what I've noticed in this thread is one or two Black Americans speaking down on Africans while the Africans have been more or less cordial and respectful in their responses.

And then they say Africans are the haters LOL.

I'm Nigerian and have been a HipHop fan since I was 10 years old. It's origins haven't nullified my love for the culture

My screen name recognises one of the greatest HipHop producers in history

The silly divisions really need to stop

Maybe its a part of our "culture" for some of us AA to be disrespectful.

Haha

Alot of yall sound no different than cacs ehen it comes to other types of black peopld

Word reading this thread this shit crazy some of yall ride harder on other black ppl than yall do white supremacy/supremacist, which is Cointel pro 101. "Barefoot island rat" like really sound like some white boy shit you would find on one of those white supremacy boards.

Yeah...that shouldn't have happened. It wasn't the intention of this thread.

And while I have my reservations when it comes to what I consider unique "culture" , any of you posters who want to post informative articles or videos that illustrate AA culture over the last few decades feel free to do so.

It doesn't only have to be about debating.