A Brief History of J Prince Defending Everyone from Geto Boys to Drake

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Prince formed Rap-A-Lot Records in 1987 as a way to keep his brother off the streets. A used car salesman with a hell of a sales pitch, Prince had a connection not only with street guys but athletes as well. The itch to make a dollar, however, consumed him. “I grew up where poverty was a serious burden on my family and that had a major part in my mind developing,” he told Andrew Noz in a 2012 profile for NPR. “I wanted to break that poverty curse that existed.”

The original lineup for the Geto Boys didn’t even feature Scarface but rather a lineup of Raheem, Sir Rap-A-Lot, and DJ Ready Red, along with Prince Johnny C. Any record from the group’s 1988 debut Making Trouble sounds like Peewee’s Playhouse in comparison to their more refined, darker material. From the moment Scarface and Willie D joined the group in 1989 and subsequently released Grip It! On That Other Level, things swung in Rap-A-Lot’s favor. Soon they became Houston’s version of Def Jam, housing acts such as the forever introverted Z-Ro (in the early 2000s following his stint with Screwed Up Click), Devin the Dude, Do or Die (one of the few non-Houston acts to crack big on the label), Big Mike, and both members of UGK, who each released highly acclaimed solo albums on the label.

Rap-A-Lot’s core, however, was gangsta rap and the earliest stages of horrorcore. Ganksta N-I-P’s South Park Psycho, which was released in 1992, followed the Geto Boys’ dark and brooding movement with small tinges in traditional G-funk. South Park Psycho was followed in that vein by Big Mike’s Havin’ Thangs and Big Mello’s Funkwitchamind in 1994.

Prince has admitted that the Rap-A-Lot formula—an indie releasing constant albums and crafting enough of a force that major label distributors such as Priority—may never be repeated again, or at least not to the success he and labels soon after had. At the moment, Rap-A-Lot isn’t releasing the full swath of albums it did in its heyday, and Prince has let it be known publicly that he’s fallen a bit out of love with the music industry.

“This whole game right now is a game that I'm not that excited about anymore because of the new structure and all these different ways of being able to get music without paying,” he told NPR in 2012. “It kind of kills my spirit from an entrepreneurial perspective.”

 

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Controversy and J. Prince have damn near been bedfellows ever since the Geto Boys originally faced conflict over getting distribution from David Geffen when they were signed to Def America. Geffen pulled the Geto Boys’ self-titled major label debut LP in 1990 over its explicit content. Prince alleged racism on Geffen’s behalf, and Geffen responded, issuing a statement that, according to the New York Times, said, “While it is not imperative that lyrical expressions of even our own Geffen artists reflect the personal values of Geffen Records, the extent to which 'The Geto Boys' album glamorizes and possibly endorses violence, racism and misogyny compels us to encourage Def American to select a distributor with a greater affinity for this musical expression.'”

According to rap urban legend, J. Prince allegedly stepped in to defend Pimp C after he and Master P got into a disagreement over whether Pimp was properly compensated for his work on P’s “Break Em Off Something” track from The Ice Cream Man in 1996. Master P allegedly kidnapped and pistol-whipped the UGK rapper over some of the latter’s remarks. But, allegedly, when he called J. Prince for a green light to kill Pimp C over the disrespect, Prince furiously told P not to harm Pimp C and to let him go. Although nobody ever admitted the story on record, the lyrics on Pimp C’s 2005 song “I Know U Strapped” seem to back it up.

Perhaps the most famous J. Prince move of all occurred in 2000 after Scarface released his Last Of A Dying Breed LP, which features taunts at Drug Enforcement Agency officer Jack Schumacher and other agents. A 12-year investigation conducted by DEA agent Ernest Howard, which began in 1988, targeted Prince and Rap-A-Lot Records for involvement in drug distribution concluded suspiciously when then Attorney General Janet Reno canned the probe into the label. A rumor spread that the case had been withdrawn due to political pressure after Prince supposedly donated $200,000 to then-Vice President Al Gore’s presidential campaign, although government officials and Rap-A-Lot spokespeople denied the claim, according to MTV.

Democratic California representative Maxine Waters intervened on Prince’s behalf, writing Reno a letter detailing how Prince and associates feared for their lives due to “police harassment and excessive force,” while Howard, on behalf of the DEA, testified in a congressional hearing that he ended the investigation for fear of agents’ lives and safety.

 

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For many, J. Prince is the man who lets his voice drag and punch people in the throat on the intro tracks of Rap-A-Lot albums. He dragged former associates of his, the prosecutor Paula Goodheart, and Lil Troy on Scarface’s Emeritus album. He was the voice who led Bun B’s classic Trill album in 2005 and who celebrated the return of The Geto Boys with The Foundation in 2005. Even if his hand is strongly in the boxing arena, he still has a presence in rap through his son, Jas.

Jas Prince discovered Drake from the days of the Toronto rapper releasing tracks on MySpace, right before Comeback Season truly took hold, when Drizzy’s style was heavily influenced by Phonte of The Foreign Exchange and Little Brother. Jas brought Drake not only to Lil Wayne but also to his father. That’s why J. Prince’s name is included as executive producer for Thank Me Later & Nothing Was The Same. Prince joked during an appearance on The Breakfast Club in January 2014 that he knew nothing of a rumor that he stopped a tour bus with Drake and Wayne on it in order to see it right that his son got his fair payment for album points. J. Prince, in other words, has had his eye on Drake’s business arrangements for a long time.

And, just in time for the sixth anniversary of So Far Gone, the mixtape that really brought Drake (and, in a smaller way, Jas) to the forefront, the issues between the Princes & YMCMB surfaced once more. Legal documents have been served over album points for Drake and unpaid royalties, which could be in the millions. Personal issues have also spilled into public after Jas’s former fiancée Christina Milian left him in the summer of 2014—allegedly for Lil Wayne. Rap-A-Lot openly protested any of support of Lil Wayne during Drake’s Houston Appreciation Weekend concert last June.

Prince himself is usually soft spoken but when you provoke him, things change quickly. You in a sense need to get a pass from J. Prince to do anything in Houston. Since his extended Canadian family was messed with, the boogeyman of Southern rap is around again—just in time, it should also be noted, for Drake’s new album If You’re Reading This It’s Too Late. Some people are interpreting that project’s title as a shot at Birdman, and, with its shit-talking, old school attitude throughout, it’s a release that undoubtedly benefited from the promotion of J. Prince doing some shit talking on Drake’s behalf. J. Prince is going to stand up for the artists he supports, and he’s still not here for any lip wrasslin’.

UPDATE 2/18/15: Adding to the Prince family drama with YMCMB (and possibly further explaining J. Prince's actions), Jas Prince is suing Cash Money for $2 million, according to TMZ.

 

[damayor187]

nothing you wrote is really all that terrifying or like damn this the wrong on to fuck wit. master p pistol whipped his artist then called him to ask to kill him and j prince did nothing in return. yawn if j prince was so feared why did master p pistol whip his artist 'allegedly" ? okay he sent niggaz to beat up mayweathers homie but i jumped niggaz before too that dont make me feared.

 

[Busta Carmichael]

nothing you wrote is really all that terrifying or like damn this the wrong on to fuck wit. master p pistol whipped his artist then called him to ask to kill him and j prince did nothing in return. yawn if j prince was so feared why did master p pistol whip his artist 'allegedly" ? okay he sent niggaz to beat up mayweathers homie but i jumped niggaz before too that dont make me feared.

He is feared for a reason. U think police would be after him if he didn't do any major moves? The things in the article is only what they know of.

Bad boys move in silence

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

maybe the lil wayne lawsuit will clear up the drake royalty shit also

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

ion like niggas that just act untouchable n like bullies n shit tho.

 

[DarthRozay]

damn Rap-A-Lot helped start horrorcore? ether

 

[32DaysOfInfiniti]

J Prince may be a bully but he handle his business. Drake may be queer but he handles his business. It seems like Wayne and Baby, Wayne especially really just doesnt get it when it comes to making those important decisions that move you forward as an individual and a company. Baby got himself and jr stuck on lil forever

All this struggle Wayne is having seems so ridiculous when both Nicki Minaj & Drake appear to be in control of their careers and creativity (or lack thereof).

Nothing is what it seems with these guys, its all media.

J corny tho for his call out joint but I respect him for being vocal

 

[macadonwoo]

He handles bussiness for sure. But Percy was not scared the least of him. No Limit had shooters every corner of the South or the Country to be honest.

 

[damayor187]

nothing you wrote is really all that terrifying or like damn this the wrong on to fuck wit. master p pistol whipped his artist then called him to ask to kill him and j prince did nothing in return. yawn if j prince was so feared why did master p pistol whip his artist 'allegedly" ? okay he sent niggaz to beat up mayweathers homie but i jumped niggaz before too that dont make me feared.

He is feared for a reason. U think police would be after him if he didn't do any major moves? The things in the article is only what they know of.

Bad boys move in silence

feared by who regular street niggaz? i got dope boys in my city who have niggaz shook. i mean who do we now 100% is shook by j prince? any nigga in a city can put fear in regular lame L7 niggaz. i want proof niggaz is pissing their pants. How can 1 man put fear in another mans heart. we all die with a bullet or get beat up. bad boys may move in silence but their moves are after the fact are not silent. there was a nigga in my city who sold big dope police tried forever to shut him down. DEA indictments he kept beating them putting shit in his momma names and all that but he wasnt feared. just cuz your more clever then the government dont give u mafia don status. I sure a lot stories have been hyped and he been living off that hype for years. just saying i used to live in houston and i heard stories but never no facts

 

[L3NU]

Man that was like a 10 thousand word essay how the hell is that brief?

 

[2stepz_ahead]

i am not admitting to what i just read.

 

[Focal Point]

Interesting if nothing else

 

[BelovedAfeni]

Our heros always get denigrated or infiltrated by outside forces

 

[soulfulcat]

You said BRIEF!

 

[Gee_has_hot_picture]

WWE WWF, J Prince isnt going to do shit you think if this nigga actually does something to Birdman he doesnt have the option to call the FBI. J Prince is not above the federal government unless he has something on birdman to scare him from going that route

you fucken crackehad trailer trash no fucken diploma niggas actually believe any of this shit? J Prince cant do shit

 

[Jabu_Rule]

WWE WWF, J Prince isnt going to do shit you think if this nigga actually does something to Birdman he doesnt have the option to call the FBI. J Prince is not above the federal government unless he has something on birdman to scare him from going that route

you fucken crackehad trailer trash no fucken diploma niggas actually believe any of this shit? J Prince cant do shit

Informant post.

 

[Gee_has_hot_picture]

WWE WWF, J Prince isnt going to do shit you think if this nigga actually does something to Birdman he doesnt have the option to call the FBI. J Prince is not above the federal government unless he has something on birdman to scare him from going that route

you fucken crackehad trailer trash no fucken diploma niggas actually believe any of this shit? J Prince cant do shit

Informant post.

crack baby response, the WWE isnt real

 

[Jabu_Rule]

WWE WWF, J Prince isnt going to do shit you think if this nigga actually does something to Birdman he doesnt have the option to call the FBI. J Prince is not above the federal government unless he has something on birdman to scare him from going that route

you fucken crackehad trailer trash no fucken diploma niggas actually believe any of this shit? J Prince cant do shit

Informant post.

crack baby response, the WWE isnt real

Sorry brah, my pops only pushed weight and was well before crack existed. But you go on and keep up with your wwe color commentator antics.