9/11 was NOT an inside job!

[rapmastermind]

9/11 conspiracy will never be accepted. It has more holes than you claim the real story has. Actually the real story has 0 holes.

If you believe the government version has Zero Holes? no disrespect but you may be truly lost my friend. Nothing is every 100% in life man, a government that has lied over and over again for as long as it has and one of the biggest attacks in U.S. History all the sudden they will tell the 100% Truth? Come on, please don't tell me you have left no room in your mind for the idea that they lied again? As the poster I quoted said, "WHAT HAS THE GOVERNMENT DONE TO GAIN YOUR TRUST" I mean hey they've lied all throughout history why stop now?. Even if you don't agree with conspiracy theories never close off your mind to the possibilities. As someone mentioned. We funded Bin Laden at one point, we gave them weapons, watch "Rambo III" and see how the film portrays the American Government helping the people we call terrorist today. See how our government funded and gave Saddam weapons. 9/11 was used for a bigger agenda to take over the middle east and here we are 10 years after 9/11, two useless wars and a destroyed economy and you still question that our government were saints in this whole thing?

Rambo fights alongside Afgan Muslims against the Soviets, (This movie took the concept of the U.S. giving Afgans weapons in the 80's to fight the soviets)

Donald Rumsfield and Saddam

I mean come on it's clear the agenda was to take over the middle east, 9/11 was used to scare the American PPL to hate Muslims to agree to war with those countries. Like I said, if they weren't involved, they knew and let it happen to further there obvious agenda against Muslims and the middle east.

 

[one_manshow]

The media controls the minds of people living in the West....there is a difference between conspiracy and facts but then again sheep minded fools will believe anything the government tells them.

The variables are there government was behind 9/11 the facts are there differentiate between the information presented versus what is not told. Eliminate all the bias CNN and Fox news feed you and scrutinize how the details from 2001-2005 was modified. The leader of the hijackers on 9-11 Mohamed Atta and the rest of the hijackers are in Saudi Arabia its a known fact these guys are still alive....do your research you will see a lot of holes in the story the government is presenting to people. The whole 9-11 incident was a stepping stool to go into these countries for oil ten years later what exactly has been resolved?

 

[janklow]

You know how hilarious it is to watch the guys from Loose Change get mad at Popular Mechanics? Watch the debate, Loose Change v Popular Mechanics, god damn do they cringe. Watch PM, they're like vultures picking apart this mess. It's funny to see their theories just get killed.

well... well... did you know Popular Mechanics is an ancient Latin phrase meaning "Rothschild Scientist League"

ILLUMINATI STRIKE AGAIN

And This shuts down this whole thread. LOL @ dudes really acting like it's impossible for the Government to do shady shit when we got tons of ish they've done.

the question you should ACTUALLY ask is "is it possible for the government to pull off something so competent and secret"

its not even possible to hijack a plane a fly them into the towers lol, america is the most SECURE country on the planet, n u tellin me they got caught slippin by sum arabs ?...gimme a fucking break, niggaz watch too many movies man...its not POSSIBLE to hijack a plane and then fly them into the towers...shit wud be damn near impossible even if u had inside men helping u...

there is absolutely no reason to claim something like this is "not even possible" unless you're being incredibly sarcastic.

...please tell me you are being incredibly sarcastic.

obviously planes were hijacked, and planes flew into the towers...but it was all planned by america themselves. u cant actually GENUINLY hijack a fucking plane ands then bypass all of americas secruity measure and defense systems and fly planes into a building...the shit is so comepletely and utterly unrealistic...its not possible even in the slightest, america is untouchable plain and simple.

...and thus my hope died

everybody has seen the video of the dollar bills foliding into a shape of a plane and revealing the towers on the back

...this goddamn internet

Yet the similarities between that book and 21st century america are many.

THIS GODDAMN INTERNET

they murked him, because he was one of the few white leaders with a conscious

keep on overrating that JFK

 

[VIBE]

I think it comes down to you being pretty set in your opinion/views on it all and whatever else comes along.. I really doubt you were looking for any one elses opinion, as I get the vibe that no matter what anyone brings forth you'll disagree with and support your own view. That is totally fine, but seems to be the ongoing thing throughout the thread. everything will probably be coincidental to you and of no real reason question and that the government is out to tell citizens the truth and life goes on.
Personally I remain unsure about it all.. some things seem shady, others right. I don't I'll ever lean one way or the other on it.

Well I'm not saying our gov is perfect, I don't like them and I don't vote. I don't care what they have to say, I don't care what happens. I don't fuck with politics at all.

This thread is about 9/11. Point is, what happened that day was what happened without gov involvement. Now were there certians lies? Or MIsTAKES? Mistakes don't mean lies. But do they lie? Sure they do. About what? I don't know exactly but what can I do about it? Absoloutely nothing. You have to go along with what happens, it is what it is.

All this other shit about propaganda and movies and it's not a coincidence, the illuminati or free masons or whatever are controlling us always links back to the gov. Because everyone has every secret detail figure out, riiiight.

Like I said its impossible for anything to be coincidental. It's treated like a very rare gem. Come on. Shit happens and plays out, it's always gonna have some type of weird shit connected to it. Just let it be. Too much labeling and way too much credit given to the gov. Really, this shit is like a movie, no joke.

 

[KLICHE]

Well I'm not saying our gov is perfect, I don't like them and I don't vote. I don't care what they have to say, I don't care what happens. I don't fuck with politics at all.

This thread is about 9/11. Point is, what happened that day was what happened without gov involvement. Now were there certians lies? Or MIsTAKES? Mistakes don't mean lies. But do they lie? Sure they do. About what? I don't know exactly but what can I do about it? Absoloutely nothing. You have to go along with what happens, it is what it is.

All this other shit about propaganda and movies and it's not a coincidence, the illuminati or free masons or whatever are controlling us always links back to the gov. Because everyone has every secret detail figure out, riiiight.

Like I said its impossible for anything to be coincidental. It's treated like a very rare gem. Come on. Shit happens and plays out, it's always gonna have some type of weird shit connected to it. Just let it be. Too much labeling and way too much credit given to the gov. Really, this shit is like a movie, no joke.

Can see the points from both sides.. I don't think there will ever be a 100% fact filled answer to support either view. I just know that with people hearing of and learning about say wrong doings on the governments behalf SOMETIMES over the decades and beyond.. some are weary of what they are told goes on.

 

[EuropeanAndWhite]

Well I'm not saying our gov is perfect, I don't like them and I don't vote. I don't care what they have to say, I don't care what happens. I don't fuck with politics at all.

This thread is about 9/11. Point is, what happened that day was what happened without gov involvement. Now were there certians lies? Or MIsTAKES? Mistakes don't mean lies. But do they lie? Sure they do. About what? I don't know exactly but what can I do about it? Absoloutely nothing. You have to go along with what happens, it is what it is.

All this other shit about propaganda and movies and it's not a coincidence, the illuminati or free masons or whatever are controlling us always links back to the gov. Because everyone has every secret detail figure out, riiiight.

Like I said its impossible for anything to be coincidental. It's treated like a very rare gem. Come on. Shit happens and plays out, it's always gonna have some type of weird shit connected to it. Just let it be. Too much labeling and way too much credit given to the gov. Really, this shit is like a movie, no joke.

well that's up to you if you care or not. i can't even blame you for that. but why bash people who actually seem to care? if you don't care, then they shouldn't bother you right? i mean it's one thing not to participate but its another thing to troll on the ones who do.

me personally, i don't wan't to just go along with what happens. that's the difference. i believe in democracy and WE as the people shouldn't just TRUST our governments but instead we should watch and observe them. WE have to make sure that they are handling things the way it's best for our society.

 

[Idi Amin Dada]

lol, where did i say anything about the civil rights movement ?

i was talkin bout the federal reserve...n a whole lot of other shit he was'nt down with, faggotry probably being one of them.

we all know all american presidents are faggots.

What did you think was gonna happen? JFK was gonna get rid of the federal reserve? Nothing that he's done or was planning to do gives us any reason to believe that he would have even tried to, and it wouldn't have been successful. JFK was not a great political wrangler like LBJ was. Stop talking about things you don't know about. Niggas take a fleeting note in a debate and run with it.

 

[Idi Amin Dada]

I think this breaks down along the lines of a layman's understanding of politics, and a knowledgeable person's understanding of politics.

When you learn how shit works you know that there is NO. WAY. The U.S. government plans this attack and NOTHING gets leaked. Im. Possible. Niggas couldn't invade Cuba without shit getting leaked but we killing 3000 of our own and nothing comes out? C'mon. Y'all niggas don't actually believe this do you?

 

[Idi Amin Dada]

much has come out. you're just ignoring it

Show me ONE credible source. Not people analyzing from the outside. One person that says, even anonymously to a reputable paper, "Yes, it was planned."

 

[Jonas.dini]

The fact that there have been zero leaks in the wikileaks age to vindicate any of this silliness says it all. Assange had a hilarious quote clowning on conspiracy theorists on this note, I believe he called them twits

 

[Idi Amin Dada]

I have doubts about wikileaks credibility
if such a site really existed you'd think more bodies would be showing up

Last president Assassinated saying some thought provoking things

[video=youtube;C0FlQyFkr0k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0FlQyFkr0k[/video]

Dude, it's more likely that the mob killed JFK than the CIA. Is that the breadth of your evidence? youtube videos? Give us something better, because your evidence isn't credible.

 

[Jonas.dini]

I have doubts about wikileaks credibility
if such a site really existed you'd think more bodies would be showing up

Last president Assassinated saying some thought provoking things

[video=youtube;C0FlQyFkr0k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0FlQyFkr0k[/video]

If you follow current events then you know there have been major responses to wikileaks by states and nonstate actors: The Justice Department's attempts to criminalize not just leaking but publishing leaked information, the assange rape trial is arguably related to the wikileaks controversy, the cyberattacks that have all but shut down wikileaks, the imprisonment and inhumane treatment of Bradley Manning, I could go on... Fact is that wikileaks does exist and now so many copy cats exist that the Obama administration, as just one example, has put into effect a major crackdown on leaking, and the entire information industry has been turned on its head.

But perhaps your approach of rejecting evidence and instead basing your conclusions on unfounded doubts that are not vindicated by any kind of evidence is preferable.

 

[Idi Amin Dada]

I never made a claim as to who killed him. Just that he was wanted dead for some seemingly important reason.

How isn't a speech made by the president credible?

credibility is as much about what is being said as who is saying it. How does your video have anything to do with what we're talking about? It's some kinda proof that there was a plan to kill JFK and as a result your claim that 9/11 was planned is now more credible?

 

[IgotNx]

My two pennies is that

We might never know for sure what happened that day.. I mean I refuse to believe some guys with box cutters took over four ( correct me if im wrong) planes Then targeted specific building. Or maybe they did. I also have some doubt about it being an inside job. Like somebody said before, wikileaks would have exposed that shit a while ago. and do you think that everybody involved in the plot were really that ruthless? I hope somebody who knew would have had a change of heart afterwards and would have came fwd.

 

[Idi Amin Dada]

If they wanted it gone... it would be gone.

maybe u should have listened to some of it

For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."

some interesting things he said. At bare minimum, it is reason to question everything the government does / says.

But that's unfair b/c that was in the 60's. The world is a completely different place. All this was before the freedom of information act, stricter regulation of clandestine agencies, and the boom of the information age. You can't cite a 40 year old speech as proof for the way the government is now, the scope of that speech was way too narrow.

Now that I read it, that even looks like an argument being made specifically for the freedom of information act.

 

[rapluva]

Sunday marks 10 years since we were attacked by terrorists not of this country and still the conspiracies swirl around. I've heard it ALL, from no planes, rouge planes, hologram planes, remote controlled planes, missiles, bombs, faked blah and blah.

9/11 was an inside job?

Prove it.

1. Prove it was a demolition, that those towers were rigged and brought down as such.

Now were talkin my type of stuff I LIKE 2 TALK ABOUT:

I'll post stuff about 2-4 ? that you have

Here's some:

1. http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=10037

2. http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=4805

3. http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=4386

 

[rapluva]

Sunday marks 10 years since we were attacked by terrorists not of this country and still the conspiracies swirl around. I've heard it ALL, from no planes, rouge planes, hologram planes, remote controlled planes, missiles, bombs, faked blah and blah.

Every year I get into it with many people, hardly anyone is on "my side". Some how they always think it's an inside job. So fuck it, we'll do it again.

9/11 was an inside job?

Prove it.

3. Prove there was NO plane at the Pentagon, and why.

Here's the guys at the Petagon telling what they REALLY saw:

http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=9083

 

[janklow]

this god damn internet?

you're blaming the amerikkkan made internet for the similarities in Orwell's Oceania, Stalin's Russia, and Bush's America?

...i suppose it wasn't clear that i was responding to the fact that this internet is full of people who say things like "yet the similarities between 1984 and 21st century america are many"

I never made a claim as to who killed him. Just that he was wanted dead for some seemingly important reason.

why is it always assumed that JFK - or any president - was "wanted dead for some seemingly important reason?"

 

[Idi Amin Dada]

are you saying that speech isn't even probable grounds for suspicion?

You can be suspicious of anything you wanna be. To be accusatory is an entirely different beast and requires a different level of proof.

 

[Idi Amin Dada]

How does a large number of people saying something make it less credible?

JFK was murdered. Clear indication someone wanted him dead.

How come no one ever talks about Garfield or McKinley? How come the illuminati/CIA/KGB/Gustapo/mob didn't want them dead? Their deaths just get swept under the rug.

The thing is, everything in me knows that Lee Harvey Oswald didn't kill Kennedy. but I'd be more receptive to the notion than the mob or KGB did it than the CIA. Just b/c of his executive order doesn't mean he was gonna get rid of the Federal Reserve, and it certainly doesn't mean that he would have been successful had he tried.