9/11 conspiracy or not?

[VIBE]

For anyone still complaining about Trade 7, here you go..

[video=youtube;zZrlNw-31R8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZrlNw-31R8&feature=related[/video]

This guy has plenty of videos debunking the illogical theories.

 

[janklow]

& it was a missle that hit the pentagon.

or it was the plane that all those eyewitnesses saw.

 

[geechee slim]

I guess if you shut up now and research for a few days you'll see your own mistakes.

Man, you hilarious. Are you really that brainwashed by public media, or are you purposely trying to back up the "feds" official story. There's nothing wrong with going against the grain, but you have an excuse for EVERYTHING. And then you've got the nerve to treat all these coincidences like it's nothing. I'm done goin at it with you directly because you're missing the forest for the trees. Wise men listen and laugh while fools talk.

 

[shootemwon]

What I wanna know is, why do people think the government has their shit together like that?

I mean, ask some people and they'll tell you every major event in modern history was a government conspiracy or a government hoax. As if nothing of significance would ever happen in the world if the government didn't make it happen with a secret malicious plot.

I mean, I'm a progressive, so I believe we need more government involvement, but STILL, I don't think the government is perfect like that. A lot of incompetency. For most of these conspiracies, we're talking about a plan that would involve hundreds to thousands of people being in on it, and yet, only crackpots with tinfoil hats who weren't involved in "the conspiracy" come out to "expose" this shit.

Watergate was a government conspiracy that only included a small group, yet that shit unraveled in just a couple years.

Face it, the government isn't gully enough to pull these big conspiracies off.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

What I wanna know is, why do people think the government has their shit together like that?

I mean, ask some people and they'll tell you every major event in modern history was a government conspiracy or a government hoax. As if nothing of significance would ever happen in the world if the government didn't make it happen with a secret malicious plot.

I mean, I'm a progressive, so I believe we need more government involvement, but STILL, I don't think the government is perfect like that. A lot of incompetency. For most of these conspiracies, we're talking about a plan that would involve hundreds to thousands of people being in on it, and yet, only crackpots with tinfoil hats who weren't involved in "the conspiracy" come out to "expose" this shit.

Watergate was a government conspiracy that only included a small group, yet that shit unraveled in just a couple years.

Face it, the government isn't gully enough to pull these big conspiracies off.

Well if you look at it, these same people often believe the Illuminati and Mason are intertwined devil worshippers who have stuck together for thousands of years and are on the brink of taking over the world and killing all but 500,000 people. Alot of the people in the "Whitey is evil" phase believe it, all the people who believe in 2012, etc....

It all leads back to fear. Some people don't feel comfortable unless they fear something bigger than themself.

 

[shootemwon]

Well if you look at it, these same people often believe the Illuminati and Mason are intertwined devil worshippers who have stuck together for thousands of years and are on the brink of taking over the world and killing all but 500,000 people. Alot of the people in the "Whitey is evil" phase believe it, all the people who believe in 2012, etc....

It all leads back to fear. Some people don't feel comfortable unless they fear something bigger than themself.

Yeah, I agree.

Despite the fact that they accuse their skeptics of just wanting to take comfort in the security of believing none of their theories are true, I suspect it's the conspiracy theorists who find some sick comfort in believing that there's someone pulling the strings and regulating everything that happens. It's just like people who believe everything is willed by God. They could never accept that sometimes shit just pops off and no one is at the wheel.

 

[musicology1985]

Yeah, I agree.

Despite the fact that they accuse their skeptics of just wanting to take comfort in the security of believing none of their theories are true, I suspect it's the conspiracy theorists who find some sick comfort in believing that there's someone pulling the strings and regulating everything that happens. It's just like people who believe everything is willed by God. They could never accept that sometimes shit just pops off and no one is at the wheel.

Bullshit....................

And at ChozenWun

There is a stark difference between Freemason and Mason, so stop mixing the two.

I know you a moderate brotha and all, but stop with the lies.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Bullshit....................

And at ChozenWun

There is a stark difference between Freemason and Mason, so stop mixing the two.

I know you a moderate brotha and all, but stop with the lies.

^^^^^^^^Afraid of the Illuminati post

But what is the difference? Sometimes y'all say theres a difference, then other times they aren't because the 33rd degree is the invitation into the Illuminati.

 

[VIBE]

Man, you hilarious. Are you really that brainwashed by public media, or are you purposely trying to back up the "feds" official story. There's nothing wrong with going against the grain, but you have an excuse for EVERYTHING. And then you've got the nerve to treat all these coincidences like it's nothing. I'm done goin at it with you directly because you're missing the forest for the trees. Wise men listen and laugh while fools talk.

I come with excuses? Oh my god! Conspiracy Theorists have a fucking BOOK OF EXCUSES. Every little detail is some type of government conspiracy. That's clear in MANY MANY debates and videos on youtube. EVERYTHING every DETAIL is an excuse. You sir are a complete idiot and have no idea what you're viewing, reading, watching or hearing. It's sad to see how stupid YOU are. Many conspiracy theorists lack logic and understanding but you lack a brain.

Don't believe me?

40 minutes of "conspiracy crap"

Here you go, tell me if this doesn't make you sick to your stomach

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1287461440043399975&hl=en-CA#

Makes me laugh because they cannot get one argument right, they're so uncomfortable and resorting to diversions around them. Alex Jones, the guy with the red/brown hair. He is one of the biggest supporters of the "9/11 Truth Movement". He's so uncomfortable. One of the biggest supporters can't argue one shred of evidence.

Go there and watch them SQUIRM.

 

[VIBE]

I'll bite my tounge and let the real truth come to you from here..

http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/

Do your reading, research and all. Don't be close minded. See you've been duped by conspiracy theorist because they have doctored photos and stuff. Also quotes used to their liking etc, taken out of context etc etc..

Also, check this guy out on youtube, the 9/11 conspiracy debunker. Enjoy your breakfest, lunch and dinner of ether.

9/11 Conspiracies Debunked:

WTC Collapse Explained: [video=youtube;bMZ-nkYr46w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMZ-nkYr46w&feature=related[/video]

WTC "Pre-Collapse Explosions" identified: [video=youtube;jir7yWTroN8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jir7yWTroN8&feature=related[/video]

WTC "base smoke" identifed: [video=youtube;LTXFnAIP6A0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTXFnAIP6A0&feature=related[/video]

WTC "topple-over" senario: [video=youtube;V9Mhhvl7vWk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Mhhvl7vWk&feature=related[/video]

WTC "no free-fall speed": [video=youtube;qLShZOvxVe4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4[/video]

(remember, seconds are, 1 mississippi, 2 mississipi etc. not 12345.)

WTC control demoliton not possible: [video=youtube;tacYjsS-g6k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tacYjsS-g6k&feature=related[/video]

WTC 7 collapse explained: [video=youtube;_kSq663m0G8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8&feature=related[/video]

WTC "molten metal" explained: [video=youtube;DhHzMttUKO0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhHzMttUKO0&feature=related[/video]

Enjoy your cup of ether.

 

[musicology1985]

@ThaChozenWun^^^^^^^^Afraid of the Illuminati post

Ain't no afraid of the Illuminati post. They know where I'M AT & they know the same about you. Only difference is, our views upon what this thing is differ because of ideology, philosophy, upbringing and adult life.

But what is the difference? Sometimes y'all say theres a difference, then other times they aren't because the 33rd degree is the invitation into the Illuminati.

Freemasons are those cats that came out of Europe due to what happened in the Christian/Pagan Mor fall & Europe @ in their cousins Islamic Moorish Capitulation in Spain which led to the European Renaissance and so-called Age of Discovery. It was the white man's age of discovery, but not ours.

 

[VIBE]

I'll post up the Pentagon ones and Flight 93 ones soon, just let me know when you conspiracy nuts are done viewing these videos.

 

[musicology1985]

and Freemasons encompass all complexions, ethnic groups & nationalities, but are usually always pro-Western due to the roots of it's founding, which lay in the British Isles.

 

[musicology1985]

I'll post up the Pentagon ones and Flight 93 ones soon, just let me know when you conspiracy nuts are done viewing these videos.

This Conspiracy Nut don't give a fuck about you or yo videos.... I'm just railing against the Conspiracy denial veiled within your argument and thread.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

So the Freemasons are just regular cats and the Masons are... what? When did they form? Where did they come from? Where do they house at? What are their ties with the other "Evil" groups?

Don't take this as me tryin to be a dick, I'm just trying to see where you comin from so I can look it up n check its validity.

 

[musicology1985]

@VIBE86

And since u wanna keep talkin' shit, let me rehash this post because I was gonna leave it alone:

The theory is bunk bunk bunk bunk. This is why they didn't PLAN this attack (our government) they just allowed it.

So you admit that they allowed that shit but you still deny a conspiracy, LMAO real funny man. Real funny.

That was the U.S.'s job on 911; let the shit pass and the rest will handle itself.

 

[shootemwon]

Ok hold up. Before we continue with another generic Freemason/Illuminati thread, I want to ask something.

Can anyone give me PROOF of that these groups are out there controlling the world and pulling the strings?

When I say proof, I don't mean "Well X happened, then Y happened while at the same time Z happened, which would be a pretty big coincidence, therefore the secret world order is real"

I mean actual proof. Like you can prove water boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit by heating it to 212 degrees and watching it boil.

If you don't have proof but still believe what you believe, that's fine. There are some things I believe that I can't prove. I just want to know if anyone can prove this stuff.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Ok hold up. Before we continue with another generic Freemason/Illuminati thread, I want to ask something.

Can anyone give me PROOF of that these groups are out there controlling the world and pulling the strings?

When I say proof, I don't mean "Well X happened, then Y happened while at the same time Z happened, which would be a pretty big coincidence, therefore the secret world order is real"

I mean actual proof. Like you can prove water boils at 212 degrees Fahrenheit by heating it to 212 degrees and watching it boil.

If you don't have proof but still believe what you believe, that's fine. There are some things I believe that I can't prove. I just want to know if anyone can prove this stuff.

OH COME ON!!!!!!

Checker board patterns and common hand signals not enough evidence for you? Bullshit!

 

[musicology1985]

ThaChozenWun

So the Freemasons are just regular cats and the Masons are... what? When did they form? Where did they come from? Where do they house at? What are their ties with the other "Evil" groups?

No, I been saying the whole time that Freemasons represent all aspects of society but they were designed to preserve the current global order based upon what happened in 1492. You got good and bad Freemasons, hence THE FACT THAT most Freemasons on this site don't even combat conspiracy theories and alternative opinions because shit, they wanna know too! LOL. But there is an element within them that knows whats going on and seeks to strike down all opposition.



Don't take this as me tryin to be a dick, I'm just trying to see where you comin from so I can look it up n check its validity.

The real Masons have been around since Ancient Kemet and I have stood by this the whole time. If you don't believe me, even Major admitted such.

 

[musicology1985]

OH COME ON!!!!!!

Checker board patterns and common hand signals not enough evidence for you? Bullshit!

Stop coonin.'