9/11 conspiracy or not?

[Chike]

I want an explanation as to how the third tower fell in a controlled demolishing way... you know, since 9/11 being an inside job is so ridiculous to most shee... er people.

Also, I would like to know how the media made the mistake in saying it already fell even though it was still standing in the background lol

 

[ThaChozenWun]

What do you believe about 9/11?

Do you believe the government had foreknowledge of the attacks? - Not long before, but yes I think within the last 24 hours they knew. There is proof they received the threats and ignored them.
Do you believe everything (numbers etc) are all symbolic and on purpose? Nope, you can take numbers a rearrange them to fit anything.
Do you believe there were 19 hi-jackers? - Yes
Do you believe the planes were real? (ghost planes, fake planes etc yes, seriously some believe this) Plane, Explosion, Metal and Traces of the fuel found, yea I say they were real. I don't believe it was a plane that hit the pentagon though.
Do you think the planes had no passengers and were remote controlled? (passengers "worked for the government") Nope, ask the families if those planes had passengers.[/B What they do, kidnap the passengers supposed to board and ship em to Cuba or something.
Do you believe the planes had missiles attached to the bottom of the planes? No, video clearly shows this is not the case
Do you believe there were explosives in the Trade Centers? Nope
Do you believe Hani Honjour flew flight 77 into the Pentagon? Nope
Do you believe Trade Center 7 was planned to be demolished? Nope

Answer these, what do you believe and WHY?

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[VIBE]

I want an explanation as to how the third tower fell in a controlled demolishing way... you know, since 9/11 being an inside job is so ridiculous to most shee... er people.

Also, I would like to know how the media made the mistake in saying it already fell even though it was still standing in the background lol

I don't think it was an inside job. What I mean by that is there were no explosives, no remote controlled airplanes no conspiracy in that nature. The only thing that is proof positive is that they knew this would happen. Now did they know the date? I don't know, but they knew and could've prevented it by of course airport security etc. But they let this happen for their own benefits. Cheney that dog controlled the White House. He should've been President, seriously. Bush was and is an idiot.

As for Trade Center 7, yeah question is how did it fall like it did? We do know it sustained damage. We do know it was on fire inside. I say it fell like that on a coincidence, I don't believe it was imploded. There's many things though, the other Trade Centers (although smaller) were directly fallen on etc and didn't "collapse". I see that, I don't know how to explain that. I know the ones directly under Tower 1 & 2 did "partially" collapse, sides etc were missing off. As for 7 though? That fell a bit fishy, I'll say that much.

 

[VIBE]

Do you believe there were 19 hi-jackers? - Yes

Really? So you believe there were 19? That was the number at first, I think it dropped. There were a few that pretty much claimed to not have done anything and to be alive. I think there were a total of 9 or 10. Not 19.

Do you believe the planes were real? (ghost planes, fake planes etc yes, seriously some believe this)
Plane, Explosion, Metal and Traces of the fuel found, yea I say they were real. I don't believe it was a plane that hit the pentagon though.

I agree, everything was real. Reason for me saying this? Some believe what we saw on tv was something they called, "holographic planes" in place of what was really flying at the Centers a "missile". That there was a holographic at New York, someone some where was in a building aiming some image of a plane in the sky into the building. That and I heard that a plane was computer graphically placed on our tv's to give us the illusion of a plane hitting. But of course there's so much pictures and raw footage from many many witness's we know that's so false.

What do you believe hit the Pentagon? That one is a bit hard. There was plane debris. Like they said, the angle was extremely hard to maneuver for Hani to pull that off. I think a plane hit but how. There's no footage except for an explosion. Witness's say they seen a plane but they mostly said, "it didn't look like an american airlines" or whatever the company was. To me, they said the plane was traveling at 400 mph, for a plane that low and that fast, you're not gonna see what it looks like. So I believe a plane hit, I believe it was 77. How the hell did he pull it off? Not sure, because like they said he didn't even touch the ground before hitting.

Do you think the planes had no passengers and were remote controlled? (passengers "worked for the government")
Nope, ask the families if those planes had passengers. What they do, kidnap the passengers supposed to board and ship em to Cuba or something.

There's theories.

1. All people were taken to a military base and unloaded and are all alive living in different countries. They all worked for the government and faked up phone calls etc to family, friends.

2. They were all unloaded and killed.

3. The flights never existed but made to look like they did. The "supposed passengers" were taken and killed.

Then of course in place of the plane was a 'remote controlled' plane. But that's all serious conspiracies. Crazy shit huh?

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Really? So you believe there were 19? That was the number at first, I think it dropped. There were a few that pretty much claimed to not have done anything and to be alive. I think there were a total of 9 or 10. Not 19.

Let me rephrase that since I fucked it up at first. I believe there were 19 people who were supposed to be Hijackers. Only 10 of them made the flights.

I agree, everything was real. Reason for me saying this? Some believe what we saw on tv was something they called, "holographic planes" in place of what was really flying at the Centers a "missile". That there was a holographic at New York, someone some where was in a building aiming some image of a plane in the sky into the building. That and I heard that a plane was computer graphically placed on our tv's to give us the illusion of a plane hitting. But of course there's so much pictures and raw footage from many many witness's we know that's so false.

I was in NY on 9/11 because of a basketball tournament my school was involved it. I seen the second plane hit, that's why I say it was real.

What do you believe hit the Pentagon? That one is a bit hard. There was plane debris. Like they said, the angle was extremely hard to maneuver for Hani to pull that off. I think a plane hit but how. There's no footage except for an explosion. Witness's say they seen a plane but they mostly said, "it didn't look like an american airlines" or whatever the company was. To me, they said the plane was traveling at 400 mph, for a plane that low and that fast, you're not gonna see what it looks like. So I believe a plane hit, I believe it was 77. How the hell did he pull it off? Not sure, because like they said he didn't even touch the ground before hitting.

I think there were bombs inside of the Pentagon or a fighter jet hit it. From what I understand nothing was there to indicate a Boeing plane hit. And all the videos from surrounding areas that caught the attack were confiscated, and none of them ended up leaking. Something just didn't seem right about it. I seen some thing on discovery a while back about 9/11 and they all agreed NY was correct but alot of the researchers disagreed on various pentagon things.

There's theories.

1. All people were taken to a military base and unloaded and are all alive living in different countries. They all worked for the government and faked up phone calls etc to family, friends.

2. They were all unloaded and killed.

3. The flights never existed but made to look like they did. The "supposed passengers" were taken and killed.

Then of course in place of the plane was a 'remote controlled' plane. But that's all serious conspiracies. Crazy shit huh?

Those are pretty much what I was thinking. That's alot of people to get rid of though with no evidence of what happened.

And as for them all being government agents or workers. I'm sorry, you don't take that many hundred people away from their families willingly. Somebody would have came back somewhere and broke the news. All the governments secrets get exposed at some point.

 

[VIBE]

Damn, where were you at? Close to ground zero?

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Damn, where were you at? Close to ground zero?

About 7 blocks away. You could see the plane coming in though. Didn't see it hit the tower, but when you see the plane so low and then hear the explosion n shit rumbles it's clear what happened.

 

[VIBE]

That's spine chilling. Damn.

 

[elhuey]

i wonder if 9/11 conspiracy theories were made up by the gov't to distract y'all from real issues. i'm not saying this is true, its just a thought. keep this mind, in 2007, it was revealed to the world that g. w. bush was to undergo a colonoscopy (a procedure in which the doctor probes your asshole). so if the govt cant even keep something as embarrassing and personal as a colonoscopy under wraps, then how in the fuck are they gonna keep a plan to attack your own country under wraps? the gov't wants you to believe they are invulnerable and wants to keep you distracted from the dumb shit they are doing in plain sight.

 

[Jay Pee]

Good evidence from both sides tough to call really I have no stance or line drawn for either side I am in the middle about this.

 

[VIBE]

i wonder if 9/11 conspiracy theories were made up by the gov't to distract y'all from real issues. i'm not saying this is true, its just a thought. keep this mind, in 2007, it was revealed to the world that g. w. bush was to undergo a colonoscopy (a procedure in which the doctor probes your asshole). so if the govt cant even keep something as embarrassing and personal as a colonoscopy under wraps, then how in the fuck are they gonna keep a plan to attack your own country under wraps? the gov't wants you to believe they are invulnerable and wants to keep you distracted from the dumb shit they are doing in plain sight.

Like what? Also I'm not getting exactly what you're saying exactly.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Like what? Also I'm not getting exactly what you're saying exactly.

He's basically saying the 9/11 theories are created by the government to distract us from things they are doing in other countries that are wrong.

 

[VIBE]

Good evidence from both sides tough to call really I have no stance or line drawn for either side I am in the middle about this.

No the conspiracy side has horrible evidence. I know I was a one of them, bought a book on it and went nuts on research. Everything in the end makes no sense and the debunkers present the better case.

 

[VIBE]

He's basically saying the 9/11 theories are created by the government to distract us from things they are doing in other countries that are wrong.

Could be possible but the conspiracy freaks are on top of a lot of things. So that could work but I think for the most part it is noticed by people. The wrong and all that is.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Could be possible but the conspiracy freaks are on top of a lot of things. So that could work but I think for the most part it is noticed by people. The wrong and all that is.

Pretty much. A random person makes an assumption. In this case some guy knew about government papers during the Cuban Missle Crisis saying that we would use a false flag op as a way to go to war and said well this must be what happened here.

It was a great idea to look into, but none of it really matches up in the end. I still think it might be possible, but if it was a false flag op then we were certainly working along side Bin Laden and not just putting out doctored evidence that he did it.

And I think flight 93 was shot down.

 

[quiet1]

The reason "Hijackers" are still alive(if true) is because they used fake ID.

They had help from someone which is obvious if you look at all their attempts since then.

It looks like the buildings were blown up, but I just can't see how they could rig it without getting noticed.

Everything that happened will come out in 30 years when no one cares anymore.

 

[King Erauno]

What do you believe about 9/11? Govt was behind it. they orchestrated it in efforts to go overseas and fuck people up over there.

Do you believe the government had foreknowledge of the attacks? They planned it for years
Do you believe everything (numbers etc) are all symbolic and on purpose? numerology is a bitch, but some of that shit has meaning and some is just reaching
Do you believe there were 19 hi-jackers? yes, some of them are still alive today
Do you believe the planes were real? (ghost planes, fake planes etc yes, seriously some believe this) yeah duh real planes, remote controlled, who knows. a 737 cannot take down a 110 story building alone
Do you think the planes had no passengers and were remote controlled? (passengers "worked for the government")who knows
Do you believe the planes had missiles attached to the bottom of the planes?no, never heard this theory
Do you believe there were explosives in the Trade Centers? yes, as well as the steel beams were cut to help the collapse
Do you believe Hani Honjour flew flight 77 into the Pentagon? no a missle hit the pentagon
Do you believe Trade Center 7 was planned to be demolished? Yes

Answer these, what do you believe and WHY?

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What do you believe about Flight 93?

Ive seen documentaries that state things that are unkown...i.e. the removal of the surveillance tapes from the pentagon camera to determine what really hit it. Nobody is asking questions anymore, they just accept it and move on.

 

[Chike]

Conspiracy.

 

[VIBE]

The reason "Hijackers" are still alive(if true) is because they used fake ID.
They had help from someone which is obvious if you look at all their attempts since then.
It looks like the buildings were blown up, but I just can't see how they could rig it without getting noticed.

Everything that happened will come out in 30 years when no one cares anymore.

That's the thing, they couldn't rig it without notice.

1. Demolition experts say it would take at least 1 year per building to rig it right to make it fall like it did.
2. It takes 2 months to rig a small parking garage, so think, building 1, 2 and 7. That's 2+ years.
3. They had bomb sniffing dogs, so no alarms there?
4. Construction was taking place at the WTC 2 weeks prior to 9/11. NOT enough time to do these bombs.

NOTHING makes sense in the theories.

 

[tri3w]

That's the thing, they couldn't rig it without notice.

1. Demolition experts say it would take at least 1 year per building to rig it right to make it fall like it did.

2. It takes 2 months to rig a small parking garage, so think, building 1, 2 and 7. That's 2+ years.

3. They had bomb sniffing dogs, so no alarms there?

4. Construction was taking place at the WTC 2 weeks prior to 9/11. NOT enough time to do these bombs.

NOTHING makes sense in the theories.

LOL........CoSign ..........i 2 thought there was some validlty into these theories, (Not alot, but it did make me think)..............i did some reseasrch and found out that none of it made sense when presented with the actual info, None of this shit actaully made sense............and the reason for the theroy made even more Less Sense, (Bush blow up the towers because he wanted money??? c'mon lets be serious lol)...........I believe The the COntury did had Forewarned knowledge about the attacks ( Several Agencies outside the US said something about a large attack on NY soil, and the CIA had prior knowlegde) and that Bush had something to do with it, but in the sesne that he was to inpet of a President to stop it, not becasue he was the leader (or a part of) some shadowly Clandestine Plot to destroy the American Gov or some bullshit like that lol

this is another reason y all this Conspiracy throeies abou Obama Tick me of because, 1) they all contradict each other, 2) they dont make any sense either when u strike them with information