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king hassan;c-9590555 said:Athleticism don't make you a better player, skill set does. I know a lot of us in here not hooping no more but playing a bigger, stronger,faster young cat you'd still kill him. The game is in your head first, chess, not checkers
its....JOHN B;c-9590545 said:Then that goes for every sport not just basketball, the Muhammad Ali's of the world couldn't hang with the heavyweights of today, the Walter Payton's, Joe Montana's, Mike Singletary's wouldn't even get a roster spot in today's game, the Ozzie Smith's, Ricky Henderson's wouldn't make it out of double a, you see how ridiculous you sound yet? While the shit you said is true it has nothing to do with athletes just being better athletes because of it, it relates more to healing from injuries, prolonging your career and things of that nature, Jordan and Dominique didn't have all that shit in the 80's and Jordan is the greatest athlete of all time (Bird was shitting on them both)
Now take a fucking seat and eat this L you been served clown
BOSSExcellence;c-9590616 said:king hassan;c-9590555 said:Athleticism don't make you a better player, skill set does. I know a lot of us in here not hooping no more but playing a bigger, stronger,faster young cat you'd still kill him. The game is in your head first, chess, not checkers
nah Big Homie @kinghassan ..
what u sayin would make sense if LeBron wasnt athlectically and skillfully superior to Bird..
Bird could THEN lean on his Skill..
if Bron aint more skilled, which i truly believe.. he's JUS AS SKILLED..
when Jordan couldnt athletically dominate his competition he turned his back to the basket and shot his fadeaways and used his footwork to outmaneuver his opponent..
when we ball we aint as fast as we use to be so we use our "old man strength" and lean on younger players and wear them out in the long run..
Bird is not faster.. HAS NEVER BEEN.. he is not stronger.. HAS NEVER BEEN.. he has nothing to "lean on" to give him an edge in this..
im done talkin to that RnB singer until he call me a lie or admit he's in his feeling about his white saviour..
but u i hve respect for and really want to get to the bottom of this..
im not talkin basketball legacy..
Bird is solidified..
im talkin about a 3 on 3 pick up game and Bird havin to match up wit LeBron and they the two biggest muthafuckas on the court..
no Mchale.. no Parish..
fuck is he go do wit LeBron!?
both Jordan and Iverson go have they hands tied with they matchups to offer help cause if they do advantage automatically goes to whomever they stickin..
good luck leavin Steph open and better luck runnin at Kobe..
king hassan;c-9590716 said:BOSSExcellence;c-9590616 said:king hassan;c-9590555 said:Athleticism don't make you a better player, skill set does. I know a lot of us in here not hooping no more but playing a bigger, stronger,faster young cat you'd still kill him. The game is in your head first, chess, not checkers
nah Big Homie @kinghassan ..
what u sayin would make sense if LeBron wasnt athlectically and skillfully superior to Bird..
Bird could THEN lean on his Skill..
if Bron aint more skilled, which i truly believe.. he's JUS AS SKILLED..
when Jordan couldnt athletically dominate his competition he turned his back to the basket and shot his fadeaways and used his footwork to outmaneuver his opponent..
when we ball we aint as fast as we use to be so we use our "old man strength" and lean on younger players and wear them out in the long run..
Bird is not faster.. HAS NEVER BEEN.. he is not stronger.. HAS NEVER BEEN.. he has nothing to "lean on" to give him an edge in this..
im done talkin to that RnB singer until he call me a lie or admit he's in his feeling about his white saviour..
but u i hve respect for and really want to get to the bottom of this..
im not talkin basketball legacy..
Bird is solidified..
im talkin about a 3 on 3 pick up game and Bird havin to match up wit LeBron and they the two biggest muthafuckas on the court..
no Mchale.. no Parish..
fuck is he go do wit LeBron!?
both Jordan and Iverson go have they hands tied with they matchups to offer help cause if they do advantage automatically goes to whomever they stickin..
good luck leavin Steph open and better luck runnin at Kobe..
In the long run Bron would wear him out, he does have a better handle and in a one on one Bird is done, and then again it's more ISO ball now where Bird used the pic and he was in good condition, and on the other hand Bird did have a lot more moves, step backs and fakes and could flat out shoot, and Bird had that bad back for a long time, that's what caused him to retire. And that one thing that kills Bron everytime is that he gets frustrated and will quit, Bird was a known killer.
Breezy_Kilroy;c-9591408 said:It's funny that people still run with the idea that Bron can't shoot. You do not want to leave him open and when that 3 working it's a wrap.
ckfree;c-9592260 said:as for lebrons mental toughness or lack thereof
its difficult to discuss
its also how you define toughness
variables
hes exhibited both sides of the equation
from making it out of a situation where failure was a foregone conclusion and living under a microscope and higher expectations we have ever had for a player since he was 16 years old AND EXCEEDING IT to those 2011 finals where lebron was passing the ball with jj barrea guarding him
lmao
he was shook
strangest finals ive ever watched
but at this point of his career lebron is like keanu reeves at the end of the first matrix
he became who he was supposed to be
and now hes just gonna do whatever he wants
MallyG;c-9593339 said:Curry will be able to get his shot off of course, but A.I. gets to the cup ANYTIME he feels like it. Can't really say the same for Steph b/c that isn't necessarily his game although he's capable, just not to the likes of Allen. And A.I. has a good mid range game. Both guys defense is "meh".... I see this as a wash.
MJ has the gets the better of this battle, but Kobe will mos def hold his own. I agree w/ @Breezy_Kilroy in regards to this matter. Almost a push, almost....
Lastly let me say that I rocks w/ Larry Legend! "Old Man" game @ it's absolute finest! Larry will get his buckets and I mostly see them coming from turn arounds jumpers, some kick out threes and maybe some cut lay up's on some slip screen type shit.......
But 4real 4real... come the fuck on mayne!!! Some folks gotsta get off the boo boo !! I'm ridin' w/ @BOSSExcellence & @"dallas' 4 eva" on this one.... Do you people see how LJ get to the cup pretty much @ will when he puts forth minimal effort against a single defender? Rhetorical question, of course you do!.... Lebron might phuck round' and go to the rack and YAM on Bird so hard he might fall down and reaggravate that L-4 and L-5 disc in his back! lol
Plus I know Bird is a tough cat, but Bron will start to wear on him on off & def. I'm not gonna do any in depth analysis on nun of this shit b/c it ain't that deep. This is just the way things are. Both teams could win on any given day, but the team on the left has a edge IMO.