2017 NBA Off Season Thread: Draft & Free Agency & Summer League

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Randolph and Allen, who made up Memphis’ “Core Four” along with Marc Gasol and Mike Conley, both had expressed a strong desire to stay in Memphis. However, sources said the Grizzlies never made an offer to either player in free agency this summer. Allen signed a one-year deal with the Pelicans for the veteran’s minimum of $2.3 million. – via ESPN
 
“It’s so funny sitting back and watching this shit,” he starts, before pausing to pull his phone out of his jeans, looking through the Golden State Warriors’ group chat. (The team has one, and the Hampton Five—Green, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Andre Iguodala, and Kevin Durant, the five guys that were in the Hamptons in the summer of 2016 to recruit KD—has another.) He wants to relay something that Houston Rockets GM Daryl Morey had said in an interview, reacting to the Warriors' title. The team had texted it to each other: “They are not unbeatable. There have been bigger upsets in sports history. We are going to keep improving our roster. We are used to long odds. If Golden State makes the odds longer, we might up our risk profile and get even more aggressive. We have something up our sleeve.”

Then he pauses, scoffing at Morey’s comments.

“What the fuck are you talking about?” he says to me. “They are really trying to rethink their whole strategy”—here he bumps a table repeatedly with his hand for emphasis, getting excited—“because teams know they don’t have a fucking clue.”

On a roll now, he remembers the Warriors’ lone playoff loss, in Game 4 of the Finals, when the Cavs sank twenty-four three-pointers, an NBA Finals record.

“That’d never been done!” Green exclaims. “They don’t come out and hit twenty-four threes and they’re swept. And that’s the second best team in the world. It’s pretty fucking sick to see how everybody is just in a fucking panic about what to do. You sit back and think, like, these motherfuckers, they know. That’s the fun part about it: They know they don’t stand a chance.”
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Jordan played on a super team though.

Difference is, the warriors are a super team but Bron is the best player in the league.

The Bulls were a super team AND Jordan was the best player the league, and best player ever.

So what are we really saying?
 
Tommy bilfiger;c-10039216 said:
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kyrie been clappin at 'the land' (corniest nick name I ever heard) non stop

it is funny that he is saying it though, cause he was the main one not moving the ball in Cleveland..ha ha

(glad he seems happy in boston though.)
 
AZTG;c-10040108 said:
Jordan played on a super team though.

Difference is, the warriors are a super team but Bron is the best player in the league.

The Bulls were a super team AND Jordan was the best player the league, and best player ever.

So what are we really saying?

Calling that late 90's Bulls team a 'super team' is a serious stretch.
 
smittysmith;c-10040122 said:
AZTG;c-10040108 said:
Jordan played on a super team though.

Difference is, the warriors are a super team but Bron is the best player in the league.

The Bulls were a super team AND Jordan was the best player the league, and best player ever.

So what are we really saying?

Calling that late 90's Bulls team a 'super team' is a serious stretch.

Compare those 90s team at their peak to other teams that were their competition.

Plus they had the best player ever, plus a top 3-5 coach of all time, plus great role players. Im not gonna go and name every person in the roster, but that 90s Bulls team was a super team.

So were the Lakers and the Celtics in the 80s.

The NBA in the modern era almost always had 2-3 super teams dominate.

Now we can have a debate and say most of them were built organically through the draft and today established players are just teaming up with each other and how thats either right or wrong, but super teama dominating the NBA aint nothing new is all im saying.
 
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The bulls were not a super team.

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whole top row full of bums besides kukoc,bottom row everybody besides jordan & pippen(barely) were role,players and rodman was 35-36

80's Lakers,C's current warriors super teams
 
^^^word

MJ was a transcendent athlete that elevated everyone elses play. Those bench/depth guys understood their roles and bought in, but super team they were not.
 
Tommy bilfiger;c-10040175 said:
The bulls were not a super team.

dxemfp7ogyi9.jpg


whole top row full of bums besides kukoc,bottom row everybody besides jordan & pippen(barely) were role,players and rodman was 35-36

80's Lakers,C's current warriors super teams

So you gonna tell me that having Randy Brown and John Salley didnt make them a super team?

Nah but for real, I'm not holding the 90s bulls to todays standards for super teams, but im comparing them to teams in their era, and if you compare those Bulls to their top competition, the Bulls were more talented at the top and had better role players.

Fuck it though, agree to disagree. The definition of superteam changed when Durant went to the warriors cause now teams that were thought to be superteams in the past dont even seem to be superteams when compared to them, which people are doing.

My main point is even though I know understand where Jordan is coming from, the NBA has historically always had 2-5 good teams, and the rest of the league didnt have a chance.

The NBA is not like the NFL and MLB where any team can get hot at the right team and win.

I do agree that with the Warriors the league has even less parity than it usually does, but overall this trend isnt new to the NBA.
 
AZTG;c-10040269 said:
Tommy bilfiger;c-10040175 said:
The bulls were not a super team.

dxemfp7ogyi9.jpg


whole top row full of bums besides kukoc,bottom row everybody besides jordan & pippen(barely) were role,players and rodman was 35-36

80's Lakers,C's current warriors super teams

So you gonna tell me that having Randy Brown and John Salley didnt make them a super team?

Nah but for real, I'm not holding the 90s bulls to todays standards for super teams, but im comparing them to teams in their era, and if you compare those Bulls to their top competition, the Bulls were more talented at the top and had better role players.

Fuck it though, agree to disagree. The definition of superteam changed when Durant went to the warriors cause now teams that were thought to be superteams in the past dont even seem to be superteams when compared to them, which people are doing.

My main point is even though I know understand where Jordan is coming from, the NBA has historically always had 2-5 good teams, and the rest of the league didnt have a chance.

The NBA is not like the NFL and MLB where any team can get hot at the right team and win.

I do agree that with the Warriors the league has even less parity than it usually does, but overall this trend isnt new to the NBA.

My only disagreement here is that while those other teams didnt have...lets say gold tier, perennial all-stars, they had a bunch of VERY solid and good sliver tier players that at the very least, were probably better than a lot of teams that are around today. There was a lot of decent players in jordans era.
 
AP21;c-10040316 said:
AZTG;c-10040269 said:
Tommy bilfiger;c-10040175 said:
The bulls were not a super team.

dxemfp7ogyi9.jpg


whole top row full of bums besides kukoc,bottom row everybody besides jordan & pippen(barely) were role,players and rodman was 35-36

80's Lakers,C's current warriors super teams

So you gonna tell me that having Randy Brown and John Salley didnt make them a super team?

Nah but for real, I'm not holding the 90s bulls to todays standards for super teams, but im comparing them to teams in their era, and if you compare those Bulls to their top competition, the Bulls were more talented at the top and had better role players.

Fuck it though, agree to disagree. The definition of superteam changed when Durant went to the warriors cause now teams that were thought to be superteams in the past dont even seem to be superteams when compared to them, which people are doing.

My main point is even though I know understand where Jordan is coming from, the NBA has historically always had 2-5 good teams, and the rest of the league didnt have a chance.

The NBA is not like the NFL and MLB where any team can get hot at the right team and win.

I do agree that with the Warriors the league has even less parity than it usually does, but overall this trend isnt new to the NBA.

My only disagreement here is that while those other teams didnt have...lets say gold tier, perennial all-stars, they had a bunch of VERY solid and good sliver tier players that at the very least, were probably better than a lot of teams that are around today. There was a lot of decent players in jordans era.

I think there are more great teams today.

The cavs, rockets, okc, the spurs, the celtics. These teams have enough talent to compete in any era. Take out the warriors and this woulda been a very competitive year between those 5.

Then there are a lot of good teams too.

Its just that the warriors are so good that even these teams dont seem like they are good compared to them.
 
Tommy bilfiger;c-10040175 said:
The bulls were not a super team.

dxemfp7ogyi9.jpg


whole top row full of bums besides kukoc,bottom row everybody besides jordan & pippen(barely) were role,players and rodman was 35-36

80's Lakers,C's current warriors super teams

Funny how niggas say MJ didn't have a super team but go out their way to claim Kobe's post-Shaq Lakers was a super team... same amount of all stars and role players, y'all niggas can't have it both ways smfh
 
Beta;c-10040469 said:
I dont post shit for y'all to talk about the 90's B

6-9 b. Thats all im saying.

Id love to say the Knicks will have a better record than the Heat but the Knicks are trash. Maybe next year cause yall not gonna be improving.
 
AZTG;c-10040490 said:
Beta;c-10040469 said:
I dont post shit for y'all to talk about the 90's B

6-9 b. Thats all im saying.

Id love to say the Knicks will have a better record than the Heat but the Knicks are trash. Maybe next year cause yall not gonna be improving.

You the homie but I really wanna slap the shit outta you famo
 
Tommy bilfiger;c-10040567 said:
FUCK man zipser havin back problems.Too many injuries

^^^^quit crying, your team is trash anyway...like everything else chi-wack

I been sick of "the land" shit, it wasn't nothing new in the first place...but to know that y'all hate it make me love it even more... funny thing is...we too relevant for y'all not to say it lol

 

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