2. Clouds?

[kingblaze84]

Funny how the Bible has strong links to the Torah but did ya'll know Psalms 91 of the Torah has a prophecy that the TRUE savior would cry out to the heavens and would be saved? And the Torah also says the true savior would not be harmed and disaster would not even come NEAR him?

Yet Jesus claimed to have links to the Old Testament god......? GEE, no wonder Jesus wasn't able to save those 21 Christians in Libya a few weeks ago. He wasn't the real savior LOL
http://www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_116_117_118.htm

A Summary of Psalm 91:

GOD Almighty will hear his cries (Psalm 91:15) and will save him (Psalm 91:3).

GOD Almighty will cover him with His Protection (Psalm 91:4).

Christ will then not have any fear in him (Psalm 91:5).

Christ will then observe with his own eyes the punishment of the crucified ones (Psalm 91:8).

No harm (this includes crucifixion!) or disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm 91:10....this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).

GOD Almighty will send down the Angels to protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12, 14, Isaiah 52:13). Not even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing, grappling and punishment.

--Did Jesus fulfill any of these prophecies..?? NOPE.....he didn't. Therefore, the Jews are correct when they say Jesus is not a real messiah. HE NEVER FULFILLED the prophecies.

**DROPS MIC**

Are you a muslim now nigga???? hahahahaha at this bullshit to begin with psalms are not prophetic in nature with they are basically just prayers and wise sayings.

and in any case pslam 91 is not talking about Christ have you actually picked up a bible ???? pslam 91 does not say what you are trying to make it say. you are a dangerous heretic with the spreading of lies you don't even believe in yourself.

I'm far from Muslim, I don't have a religion but that website tells the truth about Jesus, he didn't fulfill the prophecies necessary to be deemed the true savior. Jesus claimed to be Jewish and that he was here to fulfill the Old Testament prophecies. Jews themselves (you know the Jews who wrote the Old Testament) have made clear Jesus NEVER fulfilled ALL the prophecies needed to be deemed the real savior. Shall I post more OT prophecies that Jesus never fulfilled? There's a lot of them.

That website talks and proves nothing all I had to do was actually read pslam 91 from the start to see that the conclusions reached by that website were bullshit. You can post whatever you want, my friend you are a lot like those jews in jesus time.

WHO REJECTED him because he did not do what they wanted him to do in the way they wanted him to do it.

The OT prophecies were never fulfilled though, and the Jews were correct to call out Jesus on that. It's why to this day Jews aren't convinced Jesus is the savior, he didn't do most of the things needed to prove oneself savior in the Old Testament. Is the Old Testament made up of lies when it came to the prophecies?

In the end, Jesus isn't doing anything but sitting on his ass. If you believe he's gonna crush buildings and destroy Islam like an angry zombie, fine. But remember, he wasn't even powerful enough to fulfill his own prophecies. Did Jesus create world peace when he came? Why hasn't he rebuilt the temple after all this time, wasn't Jesus a carpenter? lol

 

[kingblaze84]

Ah forget it this is getting too easy

dog, if there were an objective judge between us you would have lost 90% of every debate we have at this forum and not just on religious topics either half the time it's clear as day that you don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about. You just ramble on in ignorance and faulty logic

False LOL, has Jesus come to the rescue in the Middle East for Christians yet? Get back to me when he does. I'm sure you will NEVER in your life tell me "Jesus has come back, he's in Times Square right now". For the rest of your life, you will wait.....and wait....and wait.

This is a debate, by very definition of Jesus NOT coming back after all this time, you have already lost badly. Just like the Christians who lost their heads a few weeks ago. And will continue to.....with nothing happening from the lazy Bible god.

 

[zombie]

Ah forget it this is getting too easy

dog, if there were an objective judge between us you would have lost 90% of every debate we have at this forum and not just on religious topics either half the time it's clear as day that you don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about. You just ramble on in ignorance and faulty logic

False LOL, has Jesus come to the rescue in the Middle East for Christians yet? Get back to me when he does. I'm sure you will NEVER in your life tell me "Jesus has come back". For the rest of your life, you will wait.....and wait....and wait.

This is an argument, by very definition of Jesus NOT coming back after all this time, you have already lost badly. Just like the Christians who lost their heads a few weeks ago.

Jesus said he will come back when certain things are a certain way, I actually don't believe I am in the last days I am not dou. the reasons most Christians have always harped on the last days is because we awaite the end of this world and the return of the lord, it's what we wish for. time is unimportant the certain things have to happen before his return many of these things simply have not happened yet but some of them have.

Israel is reestablished as a political nation, the gospel Is almost everywhere but there is a lot of prophecy to be revealed still.

 

[zombie]

Funny how the Bible has strong links to the Torah but did ya'll know Psalms 91 of the Torah has a prophecy that the TRUE savior would cry out to the heavens and would be saved? And the Torah also says the true savior would not be harmed and disaster would not even come NEAR him?

Yet Jesus claimed to have links to the Old Testament god......? GEE, no wonder Jesus wasn't able to save those 21 Christians in Libya a few weeks ago. He wasn't the real savior LOL
http://www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_116_117_118.htm

A Summary of Psalm 91:

GOD Almighty will hear his cries (Psalm 91:15) and will save him (Psalm 91:3).

GOD Almighty will cover him with His Protection (Psalm 91:4).

Christ will then not have any fear in him (Psalm 91:5).

Christ will then observe with his own eyes the punishment of the crucified ones (Psalm 91:8).

No harm (this includes crucifixion!) or disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm 91:10....this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).

GOD Almighty will send down the Angels to protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12, 14, Isaiah 52:13). Not even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing, grappling and punishment.

--Did Jesus fulfill any of these prophecies..?? NOPE.....he didn't. Therefore, the Jews are correct when they say Jesus is not a real messiah. HE NEVER FULFILLED the prophecies.

**DROPS MIC**

Are you a muslim now nigga???? hahahahaha at this bullshit to begin with psalms are not prophetic in nature with they are basically just prayers and wise sayings.

and in any case pslam 91 is not talking about Christ have you actually picked up a bible ???? pslam 91 does not say what you are trying to make it say. you are a dangerous heretic with the spreading of lies you don't even believe in yourself.

I'm far from Muslim, I don't have a religion but that website tells the truth about Jesus, he didn't fulfill the prophecies necessary to be deemed the true savior. Jesus claimed to be Jewish and that he was here to fulfill the Old Testament prophecies. Jews themselves (you know the Jews who wrote the Old Testament) have made clear Jesus NEVER fulfilled ALL the prophecies needed to be deemed the real savior. Shall I post more OT prophecies that Jesus never fulfilled? There's a lot of them.

That website talks and proves nothing all I had to do was actually read pslam 91 from the start to see that the conclusions reached by that website were bullshit. You can post whatever you want, my friend you are a lot like those jews in jesus time.

WHO REJECTED him because he did not do what they wanted him to do in the way they wanted him to do it.

The OT prophecies were never fulfilled though, and the Jews were correct to call out Jesus on that. It's why to this day Jews aren't convinced Jesus is the savior, he didn't do most of the things needed to prove oneself savior in the Old Testament. Is the Old Testament made up of lies when it came to the prophecies?

In the end, Jesus isn't doing anything but sitting on his ass. If you believe he's gonna crush buildings and destroy Islam like an angry zombie, fine. But remember, he wasn't even powerful enough to fulfill his own prophecies. Did Jesus create world peace when he came? Why hasn't he rebuilt the temple after all this time, wasn't Jesus a carpenter? LOL comical.

The work is not finished yet and god is working so that everything ends the way he wants it to the temple will be rebuilt believe me the Zionist in Israel are working on it.

 

[kingblaze84]

Ah forget it this is getting too easy

dog, if there were an objective judge between us you would have lost 90% of every debate we have at this forum and not just on religious topics either half the time it's clear as day that you don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about. You just ramble on in ignorance and faulty logic

False LOL, has Jesus come to the rescue in the Middle East for Christians yet? Get back to me when he does. I'm sure you will NEVER in your life tell me "Jesus has come back". For the rest of your life, you will wait.....and wait....and wait.

This is an argument, by very definition of Jesus NOT coming back after all this time, you have already lost badly. Just like the Christians who lost their heads a few weeks ago.

Jesus said he will come back when certain things are a certain way, I actually don't believe I am in the last days I am not dou. the reasons most Christians have always harped on the last days is because we awaite the end of this world and the return of the lord, it's what we wish for. time is unimportant the certain things have to happen before his return many of these things simply have not happened yet but some of them have.

Israel is reestablished as a political nation, the gospel Is almost everywhere but there is a lot of prophecy to be revealed still.

Thanks for proving my point. You will wait and wait for your lazy Bible god to come back. And as I said, nothing will happen even then. Another debate you have lost, it's okay though. Life goes on. Hopefully in the next following weeks, Jesus can save the other 35 Christian Egyptians who were kidnapped in Libya last week. But since it is powerless and I am right, it will do nothing. They're fucked. It is an impotent being, not able to save anyone, or even back up its own prophecies smh. Pathetic.

**retires from thread**

 

[kingblaze84]

Funny how the Bible has strong links to the Torah but did ya'll know Psalms 91 of the Torah has a prophecy that the TRUE savior would cry out to the heavens and would be saved? And the Torah also says the true savior would not be harmed and disaster would not even come NEAR him?

Yet Jesus claimed to have links to the Old Testament god......? GEE, no wonder Jesus wasn't able to save those 21 Christians in Libya a few weeks ago. He wasn't the real savior LOL
http://www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_116_117_118.htm

A Summary of Psalm 91:

GOD Almighty will hear his cries (Psalm 91:15) and will save him (Psalm 91:3).

GOD Almighty will cover him with His Protection (Psalm 91:4).

Christ will then not have any fear in him (Psalm 91:5).

Christ will then observe with his own eyes the punishment of the crucified ones (Psalm 91:8).

No harm (this includes crucifixion!) or disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm 91:10....this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).

GOD Almighty will send down the Angels to protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12, 14, Isaiah 52:13). Not even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing, grappling and punishment.

--Did Jesus fulfill any of these prophecies..?? NOPE.....he didn't. Therefore, the Jews are correct when they say Jesus is not a real messiah. HE NEVER FULFILLED the prophecies.

**DROPS MIC**

Are you a muslim now nigga???? hahahahaha at this bullshit to begin with psalms are not prophetic in nature with they are basically just prayers and wise sayings.

and in any case pslam 91 is not talking about Christ have you actually picked up a bible ???? pslam 91 does not say what you are trying to make it say. you are a dangerous heretic with the spreading of lies you don't even believe in yourself.

I'm far from Muslim, I don't have a religion but that website tells the truth about Jesus, he didn't fulfill the prophecies necessary to be deemed the true savior. Jesus claimed to be Jewish and that he was here to fulfill the Old Testament prophecies. Jews themselves (you know the Jews who wrote the Old Testament) have made clear Jesus NEVER fulfilled ALL the prophecies needed to be deemed the real savior. Shall I post more OT prophecies that Jesus never fulfilled? There's a lot of them.

That website talks and proves nothing all I had to do was actually read pslam 91 from the start to see that the conclusions reached by that website were bullshit. You can post whatever you want, my friend you are a lot like those jews in jesus time.

WHO REJECTED him because he did not do what they wanted him to do in the way they wanted him to do it.

The OT prophecies were never fulfilled though, and the Jews were correct to call out Jesus on that. It's why to this day Jews aren't convinced Jesus is the savior, he didn't do most of the things needed to prove oneself savior in the Old Testament. Is the Old Testament made up of lies when it came to the prophecies?

In the end, Jesus isn't doing anything but sitting on his ass. If you believe he's gonna crush buildings and destroy Islam like an angry zombie, fine. But remember, he wasn't even powerful enough to fulfill his own prophecies. Did Jesus create world peace when he came? Why hasn't he rebuilt the temple after all this time, wasn't Jesus a carpenter? LOL comical.

The work is not finished yet and god is working so that everything ends the way he wants it to the temple will be rebuilt believe me the Zionist in Israel are working on it.

2,000 years later and now White Russian and Polish Jews in Israel are gonna have to rebuild the temple? LOL!!!! I'm done

 

[zombie]

Funny how the Bible has strong links to the Torah but did ya'll know Psalms 91 of the Torah has a prophecy that the TRUE savior would cry out to the heavens and would be saved? And the Torah also says the true savior would not be harmed and disaster would not even come NEAR him?

Yet Jesus claimed to have links to the Old Testament god......? GEE, no wonder Jesus wasn't able to save those 21 Christians in Libya a few weeks ago. He wasn't the real savior LOL
http://www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_116_117_118.htm

A Summary of Psalm 91:

GOD Almighty will hear his cries (Psalm 91:15) and will save him (Psalm 91:3).

GOD Almighty will cover him with His Protection (Psalm 91:4).

Christ will then not have any fear in him (Psalm 91:5).

Christ will then observe with his own eyes the punishment of the crucified ones (Psalm 91:8).

No harm (this includes crucifixion!) or disaster will even come near Christ (Psalm 91:10....this even contradicts him getting beaten up before crucifixion).

GOD Almighty will send down the Angels to protect him and lift him (Psalm 91:11-12, 14, Isaiah 52:13). Not even his foot will strike the ground from his enemies pushing, grappling and punishment.

--Did Jesus fulfill any of these prophecies..?? NOPE.....he didn't. Therefore, the Jews are correct when they say Jesus is not a real messiah. HE NEVER FULFILLED the prophecies.

**DROPS MIC**

Are you a muslim now nigga???? hahahahaha at this bullshit to begin with psalms are not prophetic in nature with they are basically just prayers and wise sayings.

and in any case pslam 91 is not talking about Christ have you actually picked up a bible ???? pslam 91 does not say what you are trying to make it say. you are a dangerous heretic with the spreading of lies you don't even believe in yourself.

I'm far from Muslim, I don't have a religion but that website tells the truth about Jesus, he didn't fulfill the prophecies necessary to be deemed the true savior. Jesus claimed to be Jewish and that he was here to fulfill the Old Testament prophecies. Jews themselves (you know the Jews who wrote the Old Testament) have made clear Jesus NEVER fulfilled ALL the prophecies needed to be deemed the real savior. Shall I post more OT prophecies that Jesus never fulfilled? There's a lot of them.

That website talks and proves nothing all I had to do was actually read pslam 91 from the start to see that the conclusions reached by that website were bullshit. You can post whatever you want, my friend you are a lot like those jews in jesus time.

WHO REJECTED him because he did not do what they wanted him to do in the way they wanted him to do it.

The OT prophecies were never fulfilled though, and the Jews were correct to call out Jesus on that. It's why to this day Jews aren't convinced Jesus is the savior, he didn't do most of the things needed to prove oneself savior in the Old Testament. Is the Old Testament made up of lies when it came to the prophecies?

In the end, Jesus isn't doing anything but sitting on his ass. If you believe he's gonna crush buildings and destroy Islam like an angry zombie, fine. But remember, he wasn't even powerful enough to fulfill his own prophecies. Did Jesus create world peace when he came? Why hasn't he rebuilt the temple after all this time, wasn't Jesus a carpenter? LOL comical.

The work is not finished yet and god is working so that everything ends the way he wants it to the temple will be rebuilt believe me the Zionist in Israel are working on it.

2,000 years later and now White Russian and Polish Jews in Israel are gonna have to rebuild the temple? LOL!!!! I'm done

the jews have to return to Israel and also not all zionist jews are white.

 

[zombie]

Ah forget it this is getting too easy

dog, if there were an objective judge between us you would have lost 90% of every debate we have at this forum and not just on religious topics either half the time it's clear as day that you don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about. You just ramble on in ignorance and faulty logic

False LOL, has Jesus come to the rescue in the Middle East for Christians yet? Get back to me when he does. I'm sure you will NEVER in your life tell me "Jesus has come back". For the rest of your life, you will wait.....and wait....and wait.

This is an argument, by very definition of Jesus NOT coming back after all this time, you have already lost badly. Just like the Christians who lost their heads a few weeks ago.

Jesus said he will come back when certain things are a certain way, I actually don't believe I am in the last days I am not dou. the reasons most Christians have always harped on the last days is because we awaite the end of this world and the return of the lord, it's what we wish for. time is unimportant the certain things have to happen before his return many of these things simply have not happened yet but some of them have.

Israel is reestablished as a political nation, the gospel Is almost everywhere but there is a lot of prophecy to be revealed still.

Thanks for proving my point. You will wait and wait for your lazy Bible god to come back. And as I said, nothing will happen even then. Another debate you have lost, it's okay though. Life goes on. Hopefully in the next following weeks, Jesus can save the other 35 Christian Egyptians who were kidnapped in Libya last week. But since it is powerless and I am right, it will do nothing. They're fucked. It is an impotent being, not able to save anyone, or even back up its own prophecies smh. Pathetic.

**retires from thread**

You need to retire from all religious threads not just this one because your head is always in your ass notice how you did not bring back up pslam 91 after I proved you wrong

 

[zombie]

anyone who reads the bible and watches the news about the middle east and still cannot see the setting up of prophecy and the hand of god then i don't know what to tell you. from our limited life spans it seems like 2,000 years is a long time but not too god Israel is back and the children of Ishmael are

like wild men fighting against everyone just like the bible said

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Human's penned the bible, humans create their reality, a lot of energy is focused on the bible, bible "prophecy" comes true by the hand of man. Nothing oogitty boogitty about it, except maybe the reality of us creating this shit fuck mess sinking in.

 

[zombie]

Human's penned the bible, humans create their reality, a lot of energy is focused on the bible, bible "prophecy" comes true by the hand of man. Nothing oogitty boogitty about it, except maybe the reality of us creating this shit fuck mess sinking in.

If humans create reality then where did reality come from in the first place????

Your energy theory is even more undefined and oogitty boogitty than the deity presented in the bible.

 

[zombie]

Israel has been reestablished and we are living in the beginning of prophecy. It may take another 500 years or more maybe less but it has begun. Any one who studies the bible and is mature in theological studies of both the Koran and the bible knows something is up.

But keep putting your heads in the sand And keep hoping God does not exist That too was foretold in prophecy

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Human's penned the bible, humans create their reality, a lot of energy is focused on the bible, bible "prophecy" comes true by the hand of man. Nothing oogitty boogitty about it, except maybe the reality of us creating this shit fuck mess sinking in.

If humans create reality then where did reality come from in the first place????

Your energy theory is even more undefined and oogitty boogitty than the deity presented in the bible.

What reality would exist without the mind of a human to receive it? Can we even fathom what reality would be if there was not a human there to define it? What reality could we even conceive?

I'm not trying to be smart or philosophical either, contemplate it. If it were not for the mind of man, all of this shit would disappear, the human mind is what allows this "reality" to exist.

Everything is energy.

 

[zombie]

Human's penned the bible, humans create their reality, a lot of energy is focused on the bible, bible "prophecy" comes true by the hand of man. Nothing oogitty boogitty about it, except maybe the reality of us creating this shit fuck mess sinking in.

If humans create reality then where did reality come from in the first place????

Your energy theory is even more undefined and oogitty boogitty than the deity presented in the bible.

What reality would exist without the mind of a human to receive it? Can we even fathom what reality would be if there was not a human there to define it? What reality could we even conceive?

I'm not trying to be smart or philosophical either, contemplate it. If it were not for the mind of man, all of this shit would disappear, the human mind is what allows this "reality" to exist.

Everything is energy.

Science has proven that all energy in the universe came into existence. That means there existed something before what we call energy. I call it God if it took something as complex as the human mind to create the universe then it would take something more complex to make something like the human itself.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Human's penned the bible, humans create their reality, a lot of energy is focused on the bible, bible "prophecy" comes true by the hand of man. Nothing oogitty boogitty about it, except maybe the reality of us creating this shit fuck mess sinking in.

If humans create reality then where did reality come from in the first place????

Your energy theory is even more undefined and oogitty boogitty than the deity presented in the bible.

What reality would exist without the mind of a human to receive it? Can we even fathom what reality would be if there was not a human there to define it? What reality could we even conceive?

I'm not trying to be smart or philosophical either, contemplate it. If it were not for the mind of man, all of this shit would disappear, the human mind is what allows this "reality" to exist.

Everything is energy.

Science has proven that all energy in the universe came into existence. That means there existed something before what we call energy. I call it God if it took something as complex as the human mind to create the universe then it would take something more complex to make something like the human itself.

Unless it is a happening, which requires no proceeding event.

 

[zombie]

Human's penned the bible, humans create their reality, a lot of energy is focused on the bible, bible "prophecy" comes true by the hand of man. Nothing oogitty boogitty about it, except maybe the reality of us creating this shit fuck mess sinking in.

If humans create reality then where did reality come from in the first place????

Your energy theory is even more undefined and oogitty boogitty than the deity presented in the bible.

What reality would exist without the mind of a human to receive it? Can we even fathom what reality would be if there was not a human there to define it? What reality could we even conceive?

I'm not trying to be smart or philosophical either, contemplate it. If it were not for the mind of man, all of this shit would disappear, the human mind is what allows this "reality" to exist.

Everything is energy.

Science has proven that all energy in the universe came into existence. That means there existed something before what we call energy. I call it God if it took something as complex as the human mind to create the universe then it would take something more complex to make something like the human itself.

Unless it is a happening, which requires no proceeding event.

unless what is happening for there to be a happening something has to happen and if like you say it's the conscious mind that creates everything then it only follows logically that there must have been an original and extremely powerful consciousness to kick start the whole thing.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Human's penned the bible, humans create their reality, a lot of energy is focused on the bible, bible "prophecy" comes true by the hand of man. Nothing oogitty boogitty about it, except maybe the reality of us creating this shit fuck mess sinking in.

If humans create reality then where did reality come from in the first place????

Your energy theory is even more undefined and oogitty boogitty than the deity presented in the bible.

What reality would exist without the mind of a human to receive it? Can we even fathom what reality would be if there was not a human there to define it? What reality could we even conceive?

I'm not trying to be smart or philosophical either, contemplate it. If it were not for the mind of man, all of this shit would disappear, the human mind is what allows this "reality" to exist.

Everything is energy.

Science has proven that all energy in the universe came into existence. That means there existed something before what we call energy. I call it God if it took something as complex as the human mind to create the universe then it would take something more complex to make something like the human itself.

Unless it is a happening, which requires no proceeding event.

unless what is happening for there to be a happening something has to happen

That is what I am telling you, a happening doesn't require a happening to happen. A happen just happens. There is no prior thing/event/instance require for a happening to happen.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

That is the entire point of a happening, it just happens, for no reason.

 

[zombie]

Human's penned the bible, humans create their reality, a lot of energy is focused on the bible, bible "prophecy" comes true by the hand of man. Nothing oogitty boogitty about it, except maybe the reality of us creating this shit fuck mess sinking in.

If humans create reality then where did reality come from in the first place????

Your energy theory is even more undefined and oogitty boogitty than the deity presented in the bible.

What reality would exist without the mind of a human to receive it? Can we even fathom what reality would be if there was not a human there to define it? What reality could we even conceive?

I'm not trying to be smart or philosophical either, contemplate it. If it were not for the mind of man, all of this shit would disappear, the human mind is what allows this "reality" to exist.

Everything is energy.

Science has proven that all energy in the universe came into existence. That means there existed something before what we call energy. I call it God if it took something as complex as the human mind to create the universe then it would take something more complex to make something like the human itself.

Unless it is a happening, which requires no proceeding event.

unless what is happening for there to be a happening something has to happen

That is what I am telling you, a happening doesn't require a happening to happen. A happen just happens. There is no prior thing/event/instance require for a happening to happen.

That is impossible it's not even conceivable ACCORDING to you mind creates reality theory because the act of you being here invalidates it. No "thing" just happens there is always a reason and cause FOR A things existence, even if we don't know what that reason is there is always a reason

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

The happening isn't attached to the mind creates reality, it was a counter point to your, something had existed before something had existed.... and I said, unless it was a happening, then it would not require that something.