Yo 2012, the Africans in your av were enslaved by blacks and freed by the white man

[Swiffness!]

Change your avi, Ktulu. You always had funny avis and that Batdog thing was played out a long time ago.

 

[Alkindus]

FACT: The Slaves in the pic, are malnourished.

You think they were that way, when African Tribes were spooked into selling them?

Or, do you think they got that way only since boarding KTULU-Ancestor's Slave ship?

spooked? bro people were selling people from all different kinds of places, maghribi's were selling french and british mofo's to malians lol. Slavery was a business.....I don't have a clue about the people on that ship though.

 

[Alkindus]

address the malnourished aspect of the photo, address why I used it, don't address what a white-racist has come here and dictated to you to address re: my avi

I just adressed the 'spooked' part in your post, that was all lol. I didn't adress what the racist posted.....soooooooooo

* walks out*

 

[ThaChozenWun]

address the malnourished aspect of the photo, address why I used it, don't address what a white-racist has come here and dictated to you to address re: my avi

It's not hard to go to Africa and find malnourished people.

And Slavery was worldwide by everyone. It wasn't considered bad until after Laws were set forth to say it was. Every color people were bought and sold as slaves, Europeans, Americans, Native Americans, Asians, Persians, etc.. all had people who were slaves at some point.

 

[Skeratch]

The Law Of Supply & Demand

If no White-racist is looking to buy anything *as in absolutely nothing* then no African-Tribe will be selling so much as one single solitary thing!

This is true.

 

[Skeratch]

And??

...What's new?

You weren't able to do so in the atheist president thread, so this is refreshing.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

You're being dishonest, again.

Especially if you want any reader to believe that a process called Slave-Trade, which embodied White-racists seeking out the most physically-fit Black people = they ran up on The MotherLand looking for famished and frail folks like in my avi, to set sail to the America's with.

And considering your Strom Thurmond clone who created this thread, told you, that the pix came from someone who ran up on a Slave Ship out there likely for weeks or months, then...



Who ya foolin'?

Post totally went over your head as did the story that Ktulu posted. And they didn't have to run up lookin anywhere, our own people already had us shackled and cuffed waiting for them to land for their next bunch.

 

[Skeratch]

I destroyed you in the atheist thread, as in, annihilated you in the atheist thread...that's why you resorted to dishonesty, for responding, and worst of all...your coward azz still avoided circumvented and tapdanced around the crux of my discussion as laid out in the OP

So just remember that I am your mitochondria, punkBYTCH, and that's the ONLY reason you even posted there.

ha. You are one delusional cat.

 

[bankrupt baller]

hey 2012..........your mom!!!!!

burn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Skeratch]

and you are one dishonest lame.

Being called dishonest by a man who admitted to using a manufactured quote in the epitome of dishonesty?

Doesn't bother me.

 

[Chike]

[video=youtube;uI4WS2Rak9Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI4WS2Rak9Q[/video]

Every time someone uses the bullshit "Africans sold themselves into slavery" excuse... I'm going to post this video.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

[video=youtube;uI4WS2Rak9Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI4WS2Rak9Q[/video]

Every time someone uses the bullshit "Africans sold themselves into slavery" excuse... I'm going to post this video.

Post it, it's a false video.

Plenty of evidences and receipts and shit exist that show Africans accepting goods in exchange for slaves.

 

[whar67]

The Law Of Supply & Demand

If no White-racist is looking to buy anything *as in absolutely nothing* then no African-Tribe will be selling so much as one single solitary thing!

Let apply this logic throughout the buyer-seller chain.

It appears to diminish or eliminate the moral responsibility of African Tribes because European Slavers were offering to buy captives. However the position is the supply chain of the African Tribes that sold captives and the European Slaver is identical. The Slaver sold the slave to the plantation owner. If the plantation owner simply would not buy slaves then there would be no slave trade, therefore the plantation owners carry the moral responsibility of slavery not the slavers that supplied them.

I have to think this argument is bullshit. While it is a construct of 2012 post I believe it hits the spirit of his argument. It is a moral failure to excuse Africans that took part in the slave trade simply because there was a market for slave. Each individual is responsible for his or her actions and bears none for those they do not contribute too.

 

[Hyde Parke]

Somebody needs to do a thread on African slavery/enslavement. This finger pointing is ridiculous.

 

[Skeratch]

Let apply this logic throughout the buyer-seller chain.

It appears to diminish or eliminate the moral responsibility of African Tribes because European Slavers were offering to buy captives. However the position is the supply chain of the African Tribes that sold captives and the European Slaver is identical. The Slaver sold the slave to the plantation owner. If the plantation owner simply would not buy slaves then there would be no slave trade, therefore the plantation owners carry the moral responsibility of slavery not the slavers that supplied them.

I have to think this argument is bullshit. While it is a construct of 2012 post I believe it hits the spirit of his argument. It is a moral failure to excuse Africans that took part in the slave trade simply because there was a market for slave. Each individual is responsible for his or her actions and bears none for those they do not contribute too.

The entire chain was involved in a morally bankrupt situation, but those who encouraged through demand and the carrying out of brutal slavery bear more responsiblity for this.

Those African kingdoms and tribes that sold other Africans into slavery to Arabs and Europeans were morally responsible for their actions. What they did was reprehensible. However, I would argue that those who created the demand for chattel slavery, accepted it, and encouraged it bear far more responsibility. What they did was beyond reprehensible.

 

[Skeratch]

You're being dishonest, once again. As I am the man who said he had no regard, I repeat, no regard for where the quote came from and ONLY CARED if those words were true and factual regarding our societies. And I still stand by that.

You are a very very conniving bytchNIGG, in your deceit, and you are a disgrace to debate decorum.

Sorry, those who use false quotations to support their argumentation are not allowed to call other people dishonest. Doesn't compute.

And you lecturing me on debate decorum is also laughable.

 

[ThaChozenWun]

Somebody needs to do a thread on African slavery/enslavement. This finger pointing is ridiculous.

That I will do. I won't make it own my own, but I'll throw a nice long article describing the American Slave trade being part of a larger slave trade both tribal, internal, and external.

 

[Hyde Parke]

That I will do. I won't make it own my own, but I'll throw a nice long article describing the American Slave trade being part of a larger slave trade both tribal, internal, and external.

bet. i'll be checking for it.

 

[whar67]

http://www.johnrobbins.info/blog/is-there-slavery-in-your-chocolate/

This is a modern version of the moral culpability of taking part in a supply chain based on slavery. In this does the modern candy maker have any moral responsibility that beans a distributor purchased were produced by slave labor. Do you or I bear this responsibility when we purchase chocolate when 1/3rd of cocoa beans are produced by slave labor?

 

[Chike]

Post it, it's a false video.

Plenty of evidences and receipts and shit exist that show Africans accepting goods in exchange for slaves.

Please show me this evidence, and also, who exactly is providing this evidence? I bet it's a Caucasian.