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Ms. Mephisto;535411 said:God didn't write the Bible, God doesn't dislike women.
Me and God have always had a great relationship.
The men who wrote the Bible can kiss my ass.
ThaChozenWun;535482 said:Yes!!!! God likes y'all, the biblical god doesnt. Are you Christian?
Ms. Mephisto;535791 said:No, and I don't go to church either. I'ma heathen. Oh noes! lol
Meet The Sniper;535843 said:Jesus had a great relationship with women and advocated equality.
As far as the Bible writers go, most of the important ones (Paul, Luke etc.) either didn't touch the subject or supported Jesus' stance.
Further down history revisions were made to promote female subordinates, people were afraid of radical social change back then.
Take a theology class.
ThaChozenWun;535908 said:So?????? The bible is specifically the word of god or inspired by the word of god, if it is written in it, then it would be the biblical gods laws. Dont matter which disciple wrote what, the point is its in there,
they tried changing it later because they knew they also needed women to support its movement or they would fail.
Also I wasn't talking about Jesus, IMO he was nothin more than a prophet who claimed to be God's son. I mean seriously Moses was told about Gods son coming but forgot to tell his people not to kill him because he was gods son? Come on son, if Jesus was really Gods son or god or whatever he was, Moses would have known to alert his people beforehand. Say for a minute Jesus was really gods son, Jesus loved women so? He had free thought to do as he chose, just cause pops didnt like females didnt mean he couldnt.
Meet The Sniper;535988 said:It's inspired by the word of god, not specifically. The Bible (aka New Testament included) was first written around the 60 bc or so. Paul and the other disciples were dying out so they had to write it because the story of Jesus was getting skewed by Oral Tradition.
Man please the New Testaments gospels were written well after Jesus died, the earliest is about 70AD and thats a lost gospel so it aint even in the bible, the rest are between 80ad-about 320AD, Fuck out of here with that BC shit.
So yes, it does matter who wrote what. That's why scholars argue Biblical cannon. Please realize that after most of the original writers died the Bible became a game of political Mad Libs. There are still hundreds of documents that aren't in the bible's gospel.
No it doesn't, two of the big gospels were written after 100 ad, their are plenty smaller gospels in the bible written before most of the "Most Important ones". Alot of these documents not in the bible are missing because they contradict it even more, describe shit no one else mentioned, alot had a couple relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene. Did you ever read alot of these missing gospels and manuscripts? I think not.
Why would women support being oppressed? (Aka the original point of your thread) MEN made the changes so radical social changes wouldn't happen.
That's what I said, thats why the bible is bullshit, people can just change it anytime they feel the need to. They knew females wouldnt stand for it and changed it. Trust me the 3rd testament will eventually be written and God nor Jesus will reappear for then. Its a book with morals to try and teach people to live right and use the fear of God to do so. Funny their is still mad scripture in the new testament that teaches, Opression of Women, Condoning slavery etc.... So they didnt really change much.
Sound's like your beef is with the Torah and the Quaran homey.
Also to Christians as far as priority goes Jesus > God. Jesus is the whole reason people were spared the fate of auto hell and original sin. That's why Christians are told to act in his image. He is "the way" for christians. His whole demeanor is the example Christians are told to follow: Kind, Forgiving, just, non-violent etc.
My beef is with all religion, I've believed Jesus was only a false prophet way before I checked into anything involving the Quran. Christians do hold Jesus next to God or higher, but why would Jesus completely change everything that God created? He didn't, the writers made him into God's son because they knew the pissed off jealous God would eventually go down, that people would eventually realize a true god wouldnt act that way. I never said Jesus wasn't a positive person, he is dipicted as that and if his stories are true he was. God however isnt, and if Jesus is the reason for the new testament which he is, outside of the good morals in the book there are also alot shitload of bad teachings that do more harm to humanity than good.
Man please the New Testaments gospels were written well after Jesus died, the earliest is about 70AD and thats a lost gospel so it aint even in the bible, the rest are between 80ad-about 320AD, Fuck out of here with that BC shit.
No it doesn't, two of the big gospels were written after 100 ad,
their are plenty smaller gospels in the bible written before most of the "Most Important ones".
Alot of these documents not in the bible are missing because they contradict it even more, describe shit no one else mentioned, alot had a couple relationship between Jesus and Mary Magdalene. Did you ever read alot of these missing gospels and manuscripts? I think not.
Did you ever read alot of these missing gospels and manuscripts? I think not.
That's what I said, thats why the bible is bullshit, people can just change it anytime they feel the need to.They knew females wouldnt stand for it and changed it. Trust me the 3rd testament will eventually be written and God nor Jesus will reappear for then. Its a book with morals to try and teach people to live right and use the fear of God to do so. Funny their is still mad scripture in the new testament that teaches, Opression of Women, Condoning slavery etc.... So they didnt really change much.
My beef is with all religion, I've believed Jesus was only a false prophet way before I checked into anything involving the Quran. Christians do hold Jesus next to God or higher, but why would Jesus completely change everything that God created?
They took the new testament and made shit up to fit the old testaments prophecies.
Meet The Sniper;536076 said:AD, AD. Had a brain fart there. But everything here I agree with.
Specify. Cause if you're talking about what I think you're talkin about it may be useless to bring it up.
Luke and Mark were written after 100 AD, off the top I cant remember how it was figured but their other writings at the time had events that were happening after the 100ad mark. (Which honestly confused the hell out of me considering they would have had to been well over 100 then to write their gospels) John was at least before 115 AD based on some of things described in it that really happened. Paul could have been anywhere between 80AD and 300 AD carbon dating puts it in that time period and nothing in it can give it a specific time period.
Honestly I think Paul is the only of the 4 big gospels to write his own, the other 3 were written by followers of the claimed Authors.
Please explain this one too.
Shouldnt of really said Gospels but other writings in the new testament Exodus, Titus and Colossians (which I believe saint paul did write these two), Philemon also written by Paul, and Revalation. Those were all written before 80 AD using historical events coniciding with the time in similar non published writings.
Well yes, that was my point of brining up the writers. There are reasons things aren't in biblical cannon. Hell, John the baptist contradicted Paul and co. too.
The difference is though the contradictions in outside texts contradict it to the point anyone with common sense will say, alright this book is a lie, where as the current contradictions you can sort of go around and make them work with one another. I've posted the contradictions and asked many others about them and always get different answers but they always make them try to match, where as in outside texts its always "no sense to it aint in the bible because its a hoax" without them even knowing anything in them.
As a Christian, why in the fuck would I?
If you believe in the biblical gospels, why not read the other texts written by some of the same authors and around and sometimes before the bibles accepted ones? IMO most do not in fear of it proving the bible wrong and some people just couldnt handle that.
The idea of biblical cannon is to prevent this.
If they can change words that are inspired by god anytime they want to make it fit current times, its bullshit. Anyone can take a prophecy and later make it fit to something, they can always make stories and fool people into believing them.
But he didn't? Jesus's very existance was supposed to be an act of mercy by God on the Human race.
Please elaborate.
OT and the NT, they are completely different views, one is the unmerciful, jealous, god killing people and no one can be forgiven. The new testament tries to make it all peaceful and that anyone can be forgiven. Yet it still has alot of shit in it that is detrimental and causes people to act on behalf of god to accomplish something. That changes everything. People think the second coming will always be during their time, now we have shit that can really cause end times, and its only a matter of time before someone destroys alot of us trying to bring that second coming and fullfill the prophecy. The new testament makes it seem we dont have to be responsible for our actions, do as we please and Jesus will keep us safe as long as we accept him and ask for forgivness. Example at the store one day i was buyin gatorade, my wife said I should get the powder mix because we didnt have recycling pickup where I live now, some dude came up and told me not to worry about pollution that when god feels we need help he will come rid the Earth of our problems, I told him I'd rather do my part and save the world I have to live in just incase god does his usual and lets people die, then he tells me that god directed me to the store so that he could tell me what god has told him...... RIGHT there are millions of these people, we will all die because of them not because of black jesus.
Luke's gospel was there to demonstrate how Jesus fit the old testament's prophecies. What is there left to prove?
Luke writ the gospel so that these prophecies would seem to have come true
Meet The Sniper;536169 said:Eh.... I'm gonna call it quits on the strength that you had an agenda with this thread that has more to do with your opinion than religion facts.
Though check your dates and authors cause your dates a lil suspect.
