Which had a greater impact (long and short term)...GRODT or College Dropout?

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College Dropout is a classic and changed the game for good

GRODT was just hot for one year
 
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Probably College drop out.It was something new in the mist.Kanye dropped when the game was nothing but gangsta music.50 rode the gangsta wav thats it.
 
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College Dropout by far. That album showed that an artist could be successful with conscious music. That was it's impact. With Get Rich or Die Tryin', 50's persona overshadowed that album's impact. The album was dope, but impact wise, everybody was caught up on 50's back story, his image, and the beefs than anything. GRODT was more impactful commercially and he had bigger singles, but it was more so 50 Cent's image that shifted the dynamic in Hip Hop at the time than it was the music.
 
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Seem cd still has an impact with all these softer rappers etc.
Grodt and its gangsta impact has fade away in hip hop now days..
 
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Miles HIGH;2846523 said:
Well, I see I don't have to state the obvious here....

Reason I ask is that someone said GRODT was the biggest release of the 00s...We discussed sales and impact...I said a number of albums were >> GRODT...MMLP, BP1, CD, etc...
 
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And CD had that soul

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CeLLaR-DooR;2846597 said:
Reason I ask is that someone said GRODT was the biggest release of the 00s...We discussed sales and impact...I said a number of albums were >> GRODT...MMLP, BP1, CD, etc...

Yeah, like GRODT is a legendary album in the timeline of hip hop, nobody can deny that. But as far as IMPACT gpes, there was none. 50 Cent's style was not revolutionary, he was just a good ass gangsta rapper. But as a rapper, I can honestly say College Dropout changed my whole perspective on how I could write songs and what my "image" should be. Although, of course, before there was a Kanye there were Outkasts, and Pharcydes, and Tribe Called Quests, and Mos Defs, etc...
 
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Everyone came out trying to have the hardest single after GRODT. That album started the 50 Cent and G-Unit takeover that lasted like 3 years. CD is obviously better but when they both came out GRODT had the bigger impact and I dont see how thats even debateable fuck are yall talking about
 
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GRODT ended/started careers, I don't see how its not the most impactful out of the 2. Kanye eventually had impact on some of these soft ass rappers but it wasn't till after he released another 2 albums or so.
 
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College Dropout changed the game, period. If it wasn't for Kanye eponymous debut ,you wouldn't have rappers like Cudi, Wale, Cole, Big Sean flooding the game. 50's influence was short-living. After all, he ended making same type of music Ja Rule made, who he was going after like crazy during that period. Oh, irony. And GRODT wasn't even that good.
 
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real_hh_rep;2849427 said:
If it wasn't for Kanye eponymous debut ,you wouldn't have rappers like Cudi, Wale, Cole, Big Sean flooding the game.

GRODT wins automatically due to the above statement
 
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GRODT was one of the most impactful albums of all time upon it's release. That shit shattered records.

It wasnt a masterpiece to begin with, but 50 killed it's legacy with the bullshit he's been dropping since.
 
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PanchoYoSancho;2849454 said:
GRODT was one of the most impactful albums of all time upon it's release. That shit shattered records.

It wasnt a masterpiece to begin with, but 50 killed it's legacy with the bullshit he's been dropping since.

This is the reason that GRODT wasn't all that impactful. Albums with impact are not tarnished by any future lackluster material an artist drops. Doggystyle is still a significant album in Hip Hop despite how critics view every Snoop album since. Nastradamus, The Firm, and Street's Disciple haven't tarnished the impact and significance of Illmatic. Blueprint 2 and Blueprint 3 haven't killed the legacy of Blueprint.
 
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guess i got to go against the grain....

i say GRODT.... it sold the most and people were trying to copy its formula.... and it started the beef era

CD was a great album but i dont hear any big name artist that is copying that formula... on a conscience note...

and nigga is still lying and putting up a fake image to appeal to the fans... thats not what CD was about...
 
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georgia boi;2849466 said:
This is the reason that GRODT wasn't all that impactful. Albums with impact are not tarnished by any future lackluster material an artist drops. Doggystyle is still a significant album in Hip Hop despite how critics view every Snoop album since. Nastradamus, The Firm, and Street's Disciple haven't tarnished the impact and significance of Illmatic. Blueprint 2 and Blueprint 3 haven't killed the legacy of Blueprint.

So are you saying that 808's and Heartbreak did not tarnish Kanye West's image or the impact that College Dropout had? 50 Cent has stuck with the same formula on all of his albums after GRODT yet people insist that he tarnished his image. Kanye does not even make the same material he did on College Dropout.
 
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As far as I can remember FROST had no impact. It didn't inspire any trends or change anything in the game. It sold a lot, but that's not an impact unless it led to others also doing big numbers.

CD as a lot of others have said, had some impact because it opened up a new lane and it brought back the soulful sound.
 
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