Where Does Kobe's Legacy Stand If Phil Comes Back And Wins Another Ring?

him not winning a chip without phil isn't a hit to his legacy, don't believe me ask MJ.....

 

[KNiGHTS]

No it doesn't. Name a team that won with a shit coach on the strength of a team being that raw. Lebron ALMOST made the Cavs the only team in history with that credit.

I shudder to think what's gonna happen in the future with all the bullshit reasons people come up to discredit folks now.

"XYZ legacy ain't shit. He had a great team, good coaches, AND a strong front office? Fuck outta here. Dude's lame."

 

[blu197]

This Laker squad goes through coach after coach and back to Phil when they don't work out. Doesn't matter if its Kobe & Shaq, Kobe & Bynum, or Kobe, Howard, & Nash. If Phil comes back and wins another ring, Kobe's legacy takes a big hit because it will prove he aint shit without the zen master.

You sound dumb af, jordan didn't win w/o Phil too shouldn't his legacy take a big hit aswell??

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

This Laker squad goes through coach after coach and back to Phil when they don't work out. Doesn't matter if its Kobe & Shaq, Kobe & Bynum, or Kobe, Howard, & Nash. If Phil comes back and wins another ring, Kobe's legacy takes a big hit because it will prove he aint shit without the zen master.

You sound dumb af, jordan didn't win w/o Phil too shouldn't his legacy take a big hit aswell??

Jordan retired after playing with Phil and before him, they were already contenders.

 

[buttuh_b]

No.

 

[blu197]

This Laker squad goes through coach after coach and back to Phil when they don't work out. Doesn't matter if its Kobe & Shaq, Kobe & Bynum, or Kobe, Howard, & Nash. If Phil comes back and wins another ring, Kobe's legacy takes a big hit because it will prove he aint shit without the zen master.

You sound dumb af, jordan didn't win w/o Phil too shouldn't his legacy take a big hit aswell??

Jordan retired after playing with Phil and before him, they were already contenders.

Lakers were contenders b4 Phil too with Shaq and Kobe, point is both players have not win w/o Phil but only Kobe's legacy takes the hit???? What kinda logic is that

 

[buttuh_b]

Doug Collins >>> Del Harris

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

This Laker squad goes through coach after coach and back to Phil when they don't work out. Doesn't matter if its Kobe & Shaq, Kobe & Bynum, or Kobe, Howard, & Nash. If Phil comes back and wins another ring, Kobe's legacy takes a big hit because it will prove he aint shit without the zen master.

You sound dumb af, jordan didn't win w/o Phil too shouldn't his legacy take a big hit aswell??

Jordan retired after playing with Phil and before him, they were already contenders.

Lakers were contenders b4 Phil too with Shaq and Kobe, point is both players have not win w/o Phil but only Kobe's legacy takes the hit???? What kinda logic is that

I'm mentioning Kobe because of the pending coaching change and Phil's name being thrown out there. Would MJ and Pippen would have 6 rings without Phil? Probably not but they would have a couple at least. Same with Kobe and Shaq. Phil just made those squads better.

 

[moedays]

All great players want to play for a great coach. His legacy will be a great player who played for a great coach.

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

That's a horrible argument pain and simple. how is having a great coach a detriment? . "we really don't know how good Duncan is because he never had to play on a team without Pop" that shit sounds stupid.

 

[Bawse D.Lox]

a nigga who couldn't win shit without Phil Jackson....

the only reason Phil is coming back is because Of Dwight... he See's the shaq jr.

 

[dagmarlena]

Bow out gracefully, you lost this one TS.

 

[DaBull]

dumb things ppl say in the CS

even the troll Kobe haters avoided this thread

 

[Knightryder]

lol this thread is so dumb......threadstarter took a major L

 

[MC The Rapper]

This Laker squad goes through coach after coach and back to Phil when they don't work out. Doesn't matter if its Kobe & Shaq, Kobe & Bynum, or Kobe, Howard, & Nash. If Phil comes back and wins another ring, Kobe's legacy takes a big hit because it will prove he aint shit without the zen master.

You sound dumb af, jordan didn't win w/o Phil too shouldn't his legacy take a big hit aswell??

Jordan retired after playing with Phil and before him, they were already contenders.

Lakers were contenders b4 Phil too with Shaq and Kobe, point is both players have not win w/o Phil but only Kobe's legacy takes the hit???? What kinda logic is that

Well thats false they closet they ever made it without phil was the western conference finals where they got swept by the Jazz

so 97 second round 1-4 exit

98 wcf swept

99 second round 4 game swept

but a little note about phil he was on the Chicago Bulls staff in '87 so the bulls were never a contender without phil either .

So Kobe and Jordan have Phil Jackson and his Tex Winter system for their success with no Phil they wouldn't have any titles .

 

[playmaker88]

only will get better...

winning

 

[saracenwire]

getting to the conference finals equals being a contender.

 

[blu197]

This Laker squad goes through coach after coach and back to Phil when they don't work out. Doesn't matter if its Kobe & Shaq, Kobe & Bynum, or Kobe, Howard, & Nash. If Phil comes back and wins another ring, Kobe's legacy takes a big hit because it will prove he aint shit without the zen master.

You sound dumb af, jordan didn't win w/o Phil too shouldn't his legacy take a big hit aswell??

Jordan retired after playing with Phil and before him, they were already contenders.

Lakers were contenders b4 Phil too with Shaq and Kobe, point is both players have not win w/o Phil but only Kobe's legacy takes the hit???? What kinda logic is that

Well thats false they closet they ever made it without phil was the western conference finals where they got swept by the Jazz

so 97 second round 1-4 exit

98 wcf swept

99 second round 4 game swept

but a little note about phil he was on the Chicago Bulls staff in '87 so the bulls were never a contending without phil either .

So Kobe and Jordan have Phil Jackson and his Tex Winter system for their success with no Phil they wouldn't have any titles .

So a team that makes it to the 2nd round twice and 3rd round once is not considered a contender????

 

[MC The Rapper]

This Laker squad goes through coach after coach and back to Phil when they don't work out. Doesn't matter if its Kobe & Shaq, Kobe & Bynum, or Kobe, Howard, & Nash. If Phil comes back and wins another ring, Kobe's legacy takes a big hit because it will prove he aint shit without the zen master.

You sound dumb af, jordan didn't win w/o Phil too shouldn't his legacy take a big hit aswell??

Jordan retired after playing with Phil and before him, they were already contenders.

Lakers were contenders b4 Phil too with Shaq and Kobe, point is both players have not win w/o Phil but only Kobe's legacy takes the hit???? What kinda logic is that

Well thats false they closet they ever made it without phil was the western conference finals where they got swept by the Jazz

so 97 second round 1-4 exit

98 wcf swept

99 second round 4 game swept

but a little note about phil he was on the Chicago Bulls staff in '87 so the bulls were never a contending without phil either .

So Kobe and Jordan have Phil Jackson and his Tex Winter system for their success with no Phil they wouldn't have any titles .

So a team that makes it to the 2nd round twice and 3rd round once is not considered a contender????

not when you get swept

 

[blu197]

This Laker squad goes through coach after coach and back to Phil when they don't work out. Doesn't matter if its Kobe & Shaq, Kobe & Bynum, or Kobe, Howard, & Nash. If Phil comes back and wins another ring, Kobe's legacy takes a big hit because it will prove he aint shit without the zen master.

You sound dumb af, jordan didn't win w/o Phil too shouldn't his legacy take a big hit aswell??

Jordan retired after playing with Phil and before him, they were already contenders.

Lakers were contenders b4 Phil too with Shaq and Kobe, point is both players have not win w/o Phil but only Kobe's legacy takes the hit???? What kinda logic is that

Well thats false they closet they ever made it without phil was the western conference finals where they got swept by the Jazz

so 97 second round 1-4 exit

98 wcf swept

99 second round 4 game swept

but a little note about phil he was on the Chicago Bulls staff in '87 so the bulls were never a contending without phil either .

So Kobe and Jordan have Phil Jackson and his Tex Winter system for their success with no Phil they wouldn't have any titles .

So a team that makes it to the 2nd round twice and 3rd round once is not considered a contender????

not when you get swept

That doesn't matter you're one of the final 4 teams in the nba, swept or not you're a contender.... That's like sayin 07 cavs weren't a contender b/c they got swept