When did you First Fall in Love with Independent/Underground Hip Hop?

[renagade410.]

Thats crazy because that was actually the cd that got me into the underground. Dont even remember what got me to buy the cd it was either from hearing the blast or it was on somebody's list of music you should hear. Used to listen to it every Saturday morning when i woke up...the entire cd. Favorite song was memories live.

I actually didn't see that as underground tho so i guess my very first true underground purchase was either revolutionary vol 2 or the minstrel show cant remember which i bought first. Add the power of the internet plus the essence on here and i was listening to various underground acts in no time. Its crazy because i started out thinking immortal technique was the dopest rapper period now he prob not even in my top 30.

dam when i really think about it i actually cant remember when because my brother had put me onto big L back in 03.

 

[RuffDraft]

Thats crazy because that was actually the cd that got me into the underground. Dont even remember what got me to buy the cd it was either from hearing the blast or it was on somebody's list of music you should hear. Used to listen to it every Saturday morning when i woke up...the entire cd. Favorite song was memories live.

I actually didn't see that as underground tho so i guess my very first true underground purchase was either revolutionary vol 2 or the minstrel show cant remember which i bought first. Add the power of the internet plus the essence on here and i was listening to various underground acts in no time. Its crazy because i started out thinking immortal technique was the dopest rapper period now he prob not even in my top 30.

dam when i really think about it i actually cant remember when because my brother had put me onto big L back in 03.

lol I bought it for the cover due to my theory that if an album has a good album cover, it's a good album lol. I stand by that in some ways as it shows that they've stayed true rather than having an album cover with their picture on as a lot of Artists did back in those days and probably still do... Memories Live is dope, agreed.

I think I always saw it as underground as it was on Rawkus... but yeah, Immortal Technique is definitely underground, but I always ignored him as I wasn't a fan of his politically heavy tracks. Minstrel Show was dope, I copped that as well. But agreed, The Essence really put me on when I first started listening and it's been a wrap ever since. It's a shame the original posters here are missing. But it's good that we're still pushing it forward.

Big L underground after his death?? I thought he was common knowledge after his death like most posthumous releases from Artists are always well known... Big L, Big L, Rest in peace...

 

[satyrone]

hmmm its hard to tell when cuz since the 90s ive always been into shit that wasnt always getting played on the radio. i mean yea i was listening to all the Death Row shit but at the same time i was listening to Das Efx,EPMD,Artifacts,Del etc. so i dunno what got me into underground i think i jus vered off to that side of hip-hop more. in like the mid 90s i was listen to shit like Latyrx(Lyrics Born's group)Blackalicous,ZIon I,The Coup,Company Flow and a gang of others. so yea its hard to pin point ive been on it since forever i think

 

[renagade410.]

lol I bought it for the cover due to my theory that if an album has a good album cover, it's a good album lol. I stand by that in some ways as it shows that they've stayed true rather than having an album cover with their picture on as a lot of Artists did back in those days and probably still do... Memories Live is dope, agreed.

I think I always saw it as underground as it was on Rawkus... but yeah, Immortal Technique is definitely underground, but I always ignored him as I wasn't a fan of his politically heavy tracks. Minstrel Show was dope, I copped that as well. But agreed, The Essence really put me on when I first started listening and it's been a wrap ever since. It's a shame the original posters here are missing. But it's good that we're still pushing it forward.

Big L underground after his death?? I thought he was common knowledge after his death like most posthumous releases from Artists are always well known... Big L, Big L, Rest in peace...

the cover did it for me too...and fye used to let u preview the cd if u scanned the cd under some device that had headphones on it.

its weird because alot off ppl knew about talib kweli but nobody knew about big L so i viewed talib as a lil more mainstream n big L as underground even tho its more so the opposite as i got older. I been on allhiphop since like 04...been lurkin since 03 ALOt of the ppl have left since i first was lurkin...i blame the 3 upgrades smh(R.I.P 10,000 post)

 

[RuffDraft]

the cover did it for me too...and fye used to let u preview the cd if u scanned the cd under some device that had headphones on it.

its weird because alot off ppl knew about talib kweli but nobody knew about big L so i viewed talib as a lil more mainstream n big L as underground even tho its more so the opposite as i got older. I been on allhiphop since like 04...been lurkin since 03 ALOt of the ppl have left since i first was lurkin...i blame the 3 upgrades smh(R.I.P 10,000 post)

That's dope. Ahh okay, I always viewed Big L as more mainstream because of his popularity post-death...

Yeah, no doubt, same, I been here since the same time period. Lurked the same time as well, I always thought it was too geeky, but yeah, one of my usernames had over 10,000 posts and another had 3-4,000 and it's just been the way of the I.C. unfortunately. Good that people are still posting, Getwitcha and a few others are still here, but most people have moved on... can't blame them after each I.C. upgrade.

 

[traestar]

When I was three, I remembered dancing to Rob Base and E-Z Roc's It Takes Two!!
Also to Eric B and Rakim's Eric B for President and I ain't no joke!!
So I've been listening to Hip Hop since I was young! Dad used to collect vinyls and Dr Dre and KRS One CDs when I got older!

But when I first listened to Underground Hip Hop, it started with Rawkus '98! In short,
listened to Funkmaster Flex's demo of Black On Both Sides/ Internal Affairs
and I listened to this cassette everyday!! Previously listened to Big Pun, BIG,
and Pac before they died/killed, but after Underground Hip Hop came around, I started to direct my ear to
this sound instead of falling into the industry in which was changing before our very eyes.

To help convert, I used to listen to Music Choice on Comcast and looked for different artists
from Underground Hip Hop to research on! Thats where J-Live, Madlib,
Murs, Reflections Eternal, Slum Village, Little Brother and many others came into the picture!
The more I listened, the more my ear got used to it!! I still was in tune with the
mainstream, especially during the mixtape era '00-'03 in which introduced even more artists that
I listen to today! I didn't own any albums untll 2001, because thats when I started
working! But as technology got better, my catalog became greater!

 

[traestar]

Train of Thought definitely was one of those albums that drew me in, in fact "Move Something" was the "other" track to
draw me into the Underground! So I have to credit Talib for truthfully getting me hooked in!

 

[RuffDraft]

When I was three, I remembered dancing to Rob Base and E-Z Roc's It Takes Two!!
Also to Eric B and Rakim's Eric B for President and I ain't no joke!!
So I've been listening to Hip Hop since I was young! Dad used to collect vinyls and Dr Dre and KRS One CDs when I got older!

But when I first listened to Underground Hip Hop, it started with Rawkus '98! In short,
listened to Funkmaster Flex's demo of Black On Both Sides/ Internal Affairs
and I listened to this cassette everyday!! Previously listened to Big Pun, BIG,
and Pac before they died/killed, but after Underground Hip Hop came around, I started to direct my ear to
this sound instead of falling into the industry in which was changing before our very eyes.

To help convert, I used to listen to Music Choice on Comcast and looked for different artists
from Underground Hip Hop to research on! Thats where J-Live, Madlib,
Murs, Reflections Eternal, Slum Village, Little Brother and many others came into the picture!
The more I listened, the more my ear got used to it!! I still was in tune with the
mainstream, especially during the mixtape era '00-'03 in which introduced even more artists that
I listen to today! I didn't own any albums untll 2001, because thats when I started
working! But as technology got better, my catalog became greater!

Good post, you're lucky having a father figure who put you on to hip hop from an early age. I remember listening to the Fugees and 2pac but I had no idea it was hip hop, then got into hip hop back in 98 properly, is funny how an ear can always listen for a certain sound. I remember being 6 or 7 and enjoying the Outhere Brothers BOOM BOOM BOOM lol. But that's just how it was...I was 9 lol just checked it on the Net. Throwback video:

[video=youtube;WqHQ_wWbG9Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqHQ_wWbG9Y[/video]

Not sure if it classes as hip hop, but I also loved Coolio as a kid and anything Sister Sister was promoting at that time hahaha

But yeah, R.E. got me into the Underground when I was a teen :tu

 

[MastaAceTheGOAT]

I only realized about two years ago. I copped skyzoos album and thought it was dope so I started looking at duck down then the 80s and them current underground. I'm really happy with the music I listen to atm

 

[Lou Cypher]

ah man i think i was 14 or so. i listened to whatever was on mtv at that time and i posted on this shady records fan site (dashadyboard.com) cuz eminem was my fave rapper at the time, and everyone on that site would start debating what rappers were better than eminem and i had never heard of any of them. im from alaska so there isnt alot of great music stores here, so when i went on a trip to cali that year i found a store that sold alot of independant music, so that day i bought Chino XL - Here to Save You All and Royce Da 5'9 - Death Is Certain.

been buying/downloading independant ever since. Turned the radio off forever haha.

 

[RuffDraft]

I only realized about two years ago. I copped skyzoos album and thought it was dope so I started looking at duck down then the 80s and them current underground. I'm really happy with the music I listen to atm

That's dope, Skyzoo is a good artist to get you into independent hip hop. LB and CunninLynguists over the years have brought people here too, then probably Blu. They're the classic crossover Artists for most mainstream listeners if you look at who has brought members to The Essence in the past.

 

[beats&rhymes]

Late 90's for me When commercial hip hop started it's demise and it started with a mixture of indie labels a friend put me onto. Stones Throw, Rawkus, ABB, and then a little bit later Def Jux. It opened up a whole new world of dope artists and producers and i never looked back. A couple of tracks that stick in my mind at that particular time.

[video=youtube;Ya9g-hLEUD8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya9g-hLEUD8[/video]

[video=youtube;-bLPGPbu4mY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bLPGPbu4mY[/video]

[video=youtube;2JsZk966Bmg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JsZk966Bmg[/video]

[video=youtube;ql8gVpm6Cr8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql8gVpm6Cr8[/video]

Their are many more, too many to list.

 

[RuffDraft]

Late 90's for me When commercial hip hop started it's demise and it started with a mixture of indie labels a friend put me onto. Stones Throw, Rawkus, ABB, and then a little bit later Def Jux. It opened up a whole new world of dope artists and producers and i never looked back. A couple of tracks that stick in my mind at that particular time.

Their are many more, too many to list.

Good post :tu I'm really glad I got to hear the underground - mainly for the underground producers who create soundscapes that are no longer prevalent in the mainstream. It's one of the biggest differences, IMO. But also that Artists seem more well rounded and talk about a lot more relevant topics.

 

[a.mann]

Well it was really wasn’t my intention to “for in love” with underground/independent hip hop.

Just that when it all was said and done….must of the artists I enjoy listening to just so happen to be considered as such.

And this was around 94. Cause a lot dope hip hop back then was sign to majors or one of their subsidiaries.

Wasn’t til around 96 when the underground really got underground

Side note: I don’t like the term “underground” hip hop these days.

Right now THAT is hip hop and the shit on the radio/BET/MTV is Hip POP

 

[RuffDraft]

Well it was really wasn’t my intention to “for in love” with underground/independent hip hop.
Just that when it all was said and done….must of the artists I enjoy listening to just so happen to be considered as such.
And this was around 94. Cause a lot dope hip hop back then was sign to majors or one of their subsidiaries.
Wasn’t til around 96 when the underground really got underground

Side note: I don’t like the term “underground” hip hop these days.

Right now THAT is hip hop and the shit on the radio/BET/MTV is Hip POP

All true, but when you have posters who post here who post mainstream artists in the underground hip hop album of the year, it's needed as a term lol.

It's true though, the real hip hop is in the underground and when the hip pop dies down and the true hip hop takes the reigns, these mainstream labels are going to be left wondering where they went wrong.

 

[traestar]

Good post, you're lucky having a father figure who put you on to hip hop from an early age. I remember listening to the Fugees and 2pac but I had no idea it was hip hop, then got into hip hop back in 98 properly, is funny how an ear can always listen for a certain sound. I remember being 6 or 7 and enjoying the Outhere Brothers BOOM BOOM BOOM lol. But that's just how it was...I was 9 lol just checked it on the Net. Throwback video:

[video=youtube;WqHQ_wWbG9Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqHQ_wWbG9Y[/video]

Not sure if it classes as hip hop, but I also loved Coolio as a kid and anything Sister Sister was promoting at that time hahaha

But yeah, R.E. got me into the Underground when I was a teen :tu

OMG Boom Boom Boom takes me way back!!!

Thank you! You know another thing about Atlantic City that is so under the radar is its Hip Hop influence, when I was younger I would

hear music on like MTV, The Box, BET, and with the like! But the culture outside of that in A.C. was very small.

And we had rappers from here that tried to make it big as a rapper but never got that serious recognition.

There were artists like Q45 and Mack Capone which I know personally that didn't have that recognition, however

their content I never got into, the only dude who really got shine from here was New Jersey Devil (Game's producer)!

But anyways, alot of the artists I've listened to where from NY and Philly anyway,

So we were also fortunate to be within arms length of New York and Philadelphia and able to here that Boom Bap!

 

[a.mann]

All true, but when you have posters who post here who post mainstream artists in the underground hip hop album of the year, it's needed as a term lol.

It's true though, the real hip hop is in the underground and when the hip pop dies down and the true hip hop takes the reigns, these mainstream labels are going to be left wondering where they went wrong.

feel that and I understand the "need" for the term, just I don't care for it as time goes by, sort like i never cared for the term "neo-soul".....a true marketing ploy, which thankfully has been shunned to the point of non-existence

I know with "underground" hip hop there is a difference ,mainly cuz alot headz and even artists embrace the term with great pride.

Just that personally these last few years as mainstream rap sunken to depths greater still…. I think its THEM that should be labeling their shit for what it is…....Hip Pop.

 

[traestar]

ah man i think i was 14 or so. i listened to whatever was on mtv at that time and i posted on this shady records fan site (dashadyboard.com) cuz eminem was my fave rapper at the time, and everyone on that site would start debating what rappers were better than eminem and i had never heard of any of them. im from alaska so there isnt alot of great music stores here, so when i went on a trip to cali that year i found a store that sold alot of independant music, so that day i bought Chino XL - Here to Save You All and Royce Da 5'9 - Death Is Certain.

been buying/downloading independant ever since. Turned the radio off forever haha.

I hear that, I officially turned off the radio in 2004! New Jersey radio that is, lol!! If you are in NY and your tired of their radio, you'll commit suicide in New Jersey!!

And Eminem I liked during his beginning years, found out later on he was apart of the Soundbombing movement before!
Him, Royce Da 5'9" and Slum Village (more importantly Jay Dee) introduced me to that Detroit Hip Hop back in '99!

 

[traestar]

Well it was really wasn’t my intention to “for in love” with underground/independent hip hop.
Just that when it all was said and done….must of the artists I enjoy listening to just so happen to be considered as such.
And this was around 94. Cause a lot dope hip hop back then was sign to majors or one of their subsidiaries.
Wasn’t til around 96 when the underground really got underground

Side note: I don’t like the term “underground” hip hop these days.

Right now THAT is hip hop and the shit on the radio/BET/MTV is Hip POP

Word up, thats when it split around that time! And I mean the term underground or backpack I don't officially like either
but to me it just gives it a title! But then you're right, this shit in the mainstream is Hip Pop!!

 

[MastaAceTheGOAT]

the only problem with listening to underground music late, is that you miss on so much stuff and because its not widely discussed in the public, its difficult to do research. after Skyzoo, i bought black milk, Fashawn and little brother records and i was away. I was truly sold with Masta Ace and that dude Stricklin