Warren Moon maintains that Newton jabs were 'racial'

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It's funny how not to many people want to own up about Cam Newton being better than they expected.

First it was the overblown Pro Football Weekly scout evaluation of him (fake smile, not smart enough, will be a franchise and locker room killer).

Then it was comparing him to JaMarcus Russell.

Then it was the overreaction to him having trouble with the playbook and terminology from a man who NEVER developed a rookie QB on his own (Jon Gruden).

Then it was the downplaying of his performance against the Arizona Cardinals.

Which was followed by "He wouldn't do this against Green Bay. Their defense is better, and he would crumble under pressure. Dom Capers is a master of the 3-4 defense, he would come back down to earth. Mark Sanchez struggled against the Packers as a rookie, so did Matthew Stafford. Blah, Blah, Blah"

I guess people forgot Ron Rivera has experience running every defense that's currently being used in the NFL right now (4-3, 3-4, Cover 2, 4-3 with blitz heavy packages, and 3-4 with zone blitzes, from his stops in Philadelphia, Chicago, and San Diego).

Cam will be prepared for what teams are running.

Newton's critics racist, Moon says

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Cam Newton has a chance to become the first quarterback in NFL history to open a season with three 400-yard games.

Photograph by: CHRIS KEANE REUTERS, Postmedia News

By CAM COLE, Postmedia News September 22, 2011

It's depressing that we're still talking about it.

Depressing, especially, when the day's allegations of racially motivated criticism of an African-American quarterback come from the greatest of them all, a football Hall of Famer in Canada and the U.S., a former NFL Man of the Year, and pro football's all-time leading passer in all kinds of categories until he was outlasted in a number of them by guys named Damon Allen and Brett Favre.

It's depressing that Warren Moon has to climb back on this stump, 34 years after turning pro with the Edmonton Eskimos, because he hears some of the same code words being directed at Carolina Panthers rookie Cam Newton today that haunted him when he finished up at the University of Washington in 1978 and had nowhere to go but Canada.

Moon, 54, a Seattle Seahawks broadcaster, is also a sort of adviser to Newton, the NFL's No. 1 draft pick, who has passed for 854 yards in the first two games of his career.

So maybe he's taking the mixed reviews of Newton's debut performances a little too personally, but when the critics were looking only at the Panthers' 0-2 record and the rookie's four interceptions and already wondering if he had the football IQ to handle the NFL's sophisticated defences - two games in - it was bound to ring some old bells.

"Some of the criticism was racial ... I started to feel the same way I felt back in 1978 coming out of college when guys were saying I was too small and my arm wasn't strong enough. Some of the same type of blind criticism was being laid on Cam," Moon told USA Today this week.

At the NFL's scouting combine in March, the newspaper said, Moon was equally upset after ProFootball-Weekly's description of Newton's downside included stuff like "very disingenuous ... fake smile ... selfish, me-first makeup ... an enormous ego ... sense of entitlement ... continually invites trouble ... does not command respect from teammates."

"He's being held to different standards from white quarterbacks. I thought we were past all this stuff ... but I guess we're not," Moon said.

Talk about ringing old bells. During the week of the 1993 Grey Cup, Damon Allen said: "Writers don't write about black quarterbacks using the same adjectives."

A tabloid columnist had said he possessed a "low football IQ" after a game that season. Allen forgave the writer, but never forgot the slur.

After the B.C. Lions, with Allen at the helm, beat Wally Buono's Calgary Stampeders in the 2000 Western final, Buono said: "I think we were just out-finessed by a very athletic quarterback."

Far from taking the "out-finessed" part as a compliment, Allen heard only the word "athletic."

"I work as hard as anyone in practice and in preparation, but in 16 years, it's always been my ability that's been talked about, not my understanding of the game," Allen said before leading the Lions to the Grey Cup the following weekend.

But Allen was never accused of being an egomaniac, a divisive influence, a phoney. That is what sticks in Moon's craw about the reaction to Newton - that, and the idea, still sadly lingering, that black athletes can never quite "get" the quarterback position, because it's as much cerebral as physical, and ... well, you know.

Moon's own experience with the stereotype is still a vivid memory.

That he was ever permitted to avoid capture by the NFL for six years and apprentice in Canada was always a joke. It was a joke the first day he set foot in Edmonton - this 6-3, 210-pound physical specimen with the kind of throwing mechanics that give pro football scouts wet dreams, who could run like a tailback but ultimately made his bones as a classic pocket passer - and it was still a joke the day he left for Houston after the 1983 CFL season, to play 15 more good years in the NFL and two bittersweet ones as a bit player at the end.

His CFL career, although a bonanza for the league and especially the Eskimos - who won five Grey Cups in a row in his first five seasons (though Tom Wilkinson was as instrumental in the dynasty) - was, or ought to have been, keenly embarrassing to the NFL, which somehow let him get away.

And anyone who imagines that there was anything other than skin colour involved in that decision is living in a dream world.

So if Moon, who made millions as an NFL star and, in the end, owes his fortune to the league that only very belatedly decided to give him a chance, still sees undertones of a double standard in the way critics have reacted to Newton ... well, he's qualified to make that call, if anyone is.

In Canada, we've come a long way toward conquering the old notions, but we're not immune, even now.

Though the CFL has been a haven for quarterbacks of colour who either weren't taken seriously by the NFL or would have had to switch positions to something less mentally demanding to gain a foothold, there's little doubt even this league is less forgiving of the black quarterback's perceived shortcomings.

How else to explain that in a halfcentury and more of opening its doors to non-white quarterbacks, only a handful we can think of - Chuck Ealey, Danny Barrett, Condredge Holloway, Joe Paopao, Tracy Ham, Damon Allen, and now Henry Burris - have stuck around the CFL long enough to have achieved "venerable" status.

Others may join that list. Darian Durant in Saskatchewan and Kevin Glenn in Hamilton have a chance, but we won't know that for a good, long while.

Allen, who inexplicably failed to make the grade as a first-ballot Canadian Football Hall of Famer despite owning pretty much every passing record in the books when he retired - and who ranks third all-time in rushing yards to boot, behind only Mike Pringle and George Reed - has never doubted that the stereotypes persist.

No one's suggesting the decision to enshrine Danny McManus this year ahead of Allen, though both were eligible, was race-motivated. I know the panellists on the selection committee, for one thing, and I know why they were reluctant to put Allen in, in his first year of eligibility. He played for too many teams, wasn't an all-star often enough, frustrated a lot of coaches.

But Allen was right, too, when he said in interviews he gave me years apart, that football still hangs onto its notions of African-American quarterbacks being, somehow, lacking in the intelligence to call a really smart game.

This weekend, Newton has a chance to become the first quarterback in NFL history, rookie or otherwise, to open a season with three 400-yard games. He's completed 62.7 per cent of his passes, on a team that basically has no running game.

It may be time to give the kid a break.

© Copyright (c) The Montreal Gazette

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Newton+critics+racist+Moon+says/5439533/story.html
 
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Yeah the hate for that man is ridiculous but honestly Cam just needs to let his play shut his haters up. Two 400+ yard games in your first two games as a rookie is pretty impressive and I see by the end of the season the media will be kissin his ass again mark my words.
 
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Hub looks like a straight ass
 
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best thing i thought Cam Newton ever did was have Warren Moon in his corner, warren went through a lot of bullshit in his career and became a HOF QB and threw one of the prettiest footballs you'll see thrown...

and it really is sad to see a lot of this stuff have so much Racial undertone to it , it's about if you can play or not ....

hell Cam improved his passing in one yea at just Auburn, cuz honestly i thought that was his weakness at the start of the season i thought he was a terrible passer , but by the end of the year that guy had got that much better.....

i wish him the best tho' ...cuz im not all for that Race shit, if u can play then u can play white or black , so what......if they get the job done then they get it done
 
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its a mix of racism, lameness and hateration (lol)

black folk rallied around vick, now we about to rally around Cam
 
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its over: 2012!;3392957 said:
Only 2 games??

You pussAZZ racist, if he couldn't do it then he couldn't do it...whether 1 or 2 games, don't matter.

This is not hIs super bowl trip barometer. This was his racists-said-his-lack-of-intelligence = he-won't-be-able-to-compete, gauge.

Nice try, racist. Now eat your crow like a nice kkklansman.

I agree with the part that if he couldn't do it, he wouldn't do it. Matt Ryan is a prime example. We know it's unlikely he will throw for over 400 yards a game unless he changes it up mentally. Cam has all the capabilities and does just that.

matt was trying to argue with me all the time about Cam during the draft. Now he's rocking him in the avi with smiles. matt, I wish you would stop being an idiot racist from jump and be open minded before the process so you would never have to flip the script in the middle of the process. Nothing about this guy talent wise said he was a scrub. Nothing. There is a lot of idiocy and stereotyping you do and that's why I generally give you a hard time. It has nothing to do with you being white. I like the people I like. Some are Black, White, Chinese, African, etc and some aren't.

matt, I don't think you are dumb by any stretch but your ignorance makes you look dumb time and time again.
 
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tru_m.a.c;3391101 said:
its a mix of racism, lameness and hateration (lol)

black folk rallied around vick, now we about to rally around Cam

Word, unless he's playing against pittsburgh.lol
 
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He is better than I expected two 400+ passing games is very impressive. I like when a black man proves his haters wrong
 
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absolutely they was!

watch how the media work, they are sneaking and clever with the shit they say and do, since Cam is putting up good stats in his first two games, now they want to focus on the INT's and the Wins/Losses as if Cam took over a GREAT TEAM "Cam Newton has looked good in his first two NFL Starts...BUT his team is 0-2...BUT he has 4 INT's in two games"

if it was Blaine Gabbert of Jake Locker or Christian Ponder putting up those numbers the Media would be talking about them NON STOP!

The Wins and him finishing drives...all of that is going to come, of course he is not going to put up 400+ yard ever game but I hope he continues to play well...but he needs help, I don't know WTF happened to DeAngelo Williams and Stewart but they need that Running Game to get going, he also don't have many good WR's either other then Lafell and Smith...they miss David Gettis at WR, he would have been a BEAST with Newton

the fact that they are actually competing this season and they are moving the ball offensively now and scoring points compared to the shit they was doing last season, that makes Cam Newton start to his NFL Career...EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE!
 
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OH and BTW.. Cam 1st 2 games > that Peyton's

Peyton:
Passing Passing Passing Passing Passing Passing Passing Passing Passing Rushing Rushing Rushing Rushing
Rk G Date Age Tm Opp Result GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD
1 1 1998-09-06 22-166 IND MIA L 15-24 * 21 37 56.8% 302 1 3 58.6 8.16 5.05 0 0 0
2 2 1998-09-13 22-173 IND NWE L 6-29 * 21 33 63.6% 188 1 3 51.1 5.70 2.21 0 0 0

Cam:

Rk Year G Date Age Tm Opp Result GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Y/A AY/A Att Yds Y/A TD TD Pts
1 2011 1 2011-09-11 22-123 CAR ARI L 21-28 * 24 37 64.9% 422 2 1 110.4 11.41 11.27 8 18 2.25 1 1 6
2 2011 2 2011-09-18 22-130 CAR GNB L 23-30 * 28 46 60.9% 432 1 3 72.0 9.39 6.89 10 53 5.30 1 1 6
 
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jamacia;3402949 said:
He is better than I expected two 400+ passing games is very impressive. I like when a black man proves his haters wrong

nobody thought he would come out as good as he has. anyone who says they saw this coming is lying. its not about proving haters wrong. a person isn't a hater if they say "this guy who rarely had to throw a pass in college will never be able throw for over 800 yards in his first 2 nfl games"
 
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matt-;3403248 said:
nobody thought he would come out as good as he has. anyone who says they saw this coming is lying. its not about proving haters wrong. a person isn't a hater if they say "this guy who rarely had to throw a pass in college will never be able throw for over 800 yards in his first 2 nfl games"

Of course people saying those things aren't hating. But don't sit there and act like there wasn't any extra hate for cam.
 
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