Aquafinafloe
New member
i mean uhhhh duuuhhh thats why u learn from your mistakes and dont make the same ones again..nobody is perfect so of course everyone has a lil insanity in them of course but keep it pushin!
Last edited:
Install the app
How to install the app on iOS
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
BiblicalAtheist
New member
ether-i-am;1080699 said:And what are the intentions of the roads leading from hell? I wonder.
From those two things I could only surmise doing the right things for the right reasons.
Last edited:
TX_Made713
New member
so to get to heaven youd have to do the wrong thing for the right reasons?
Last edited:
BiblicalAtheist
New member
TX_Made713;1081008 said:so to get to heaven youd have to do the wrong thing for the right reasons?
No I think it's the right thing for the right reasons.
Last edited:
ThaChozenWun
New member
I think it's pretty clear that it means doing the right actions are only rewarded if the deed is done willingly and without hesitation.
Obviously doing the right things for personal gain would lead you on a path to hell because it ties directly with greed.
I think Texas posed a great question though, if you do evil in the name of good, IE Righteous Kill, how does that pave the road you are chosen to walk?
Obviously doing the right things for personal gain would lead you on a path to hell because it ties directly with greed.
I think Texas posed a great question though, if you do evil in the name of good, IE Righteous Kill, how does that pave the road you are chosen to walk?
Last edited:
BiblicalAtheist
New member
ThaChozenWun;1081161 said:I think it's pretty clear that it means doing the right actions are only rewarded if the deed is done willingly and without hesitation.
Obviously doing the right things for personal gain would lead you on a path to hell because it ties directly with greed.
I think Texas posed a great question though, if you do evil in the name of good, IE Righteous Kill, how does that pave the road you are chosen to walk?
Could doing the right thing be done in the name of greed and still be considered the 'right thing'?
I don't think killing is ever a right thing to do, so the reasoning of righteous killing makes no sense to me.
Last edited:
TX_Made713
New member
BiblicalAtheist;1081196 said:Could doing the right thing be done in the name of greed and still be considered the 'right thing'?
I don't think killing is ever a right thing to do, so the reasoning of righteous killing makes no sense to me.
Would you consider murdering one person to save billions of people from damnation in hell the right thing?
Last edited:
ThaChozenWun
New member
TX_Made713;1081200 said:Would you consider murdering one person to save billions of people from damnation in hell the right thing?
Speaking of the heaven and hell thing, does the bible not tell you to kill people as well?
Did people not give up their family in order to please god? That would be the same as offering someone up to a mob or w.e you would be responsible for the death.
Last edited:
BiblicalAtheist
New member
TX_Made713;1081200 said:Would you consider murdering one person to save billions of people from damnation in hell the right thing?
No. Murder is murder.
Last edited:
ThaChozenWun
New member
VIBE86;1081272 said:Murder is murder, there's no reason for me to kill anyone.
What I get from 'do the right thing for the wrong reason' is like this. I get saved JUST to go the Heaven. Saved = right, doing it just to go to Heaven = wrong. Along the lines of that.
Which is a main reason I'm not afraid of not being in wedlock with the bible. I do right because it is what makes me sleep well at night, for me to go back to the bible at this point would be nothing more than me doing it to save my ass in the end.
Last edited:
ThaChozenWun
New member
BiblicalAtheist;1081196 said:Could doing the right thing be done in the name of greed and still be considered the 'right thing'?
I don't think killing is ever a right thing to do, so the reasoning of righteous killing makes no sense to me.
1. No, greed is greed to me. I see no good in any type of greed. If you can think of a situation where greed would be good please let me know so I can think about it.
2. It's natural instinct to fight back when cornered. No sin there if it was wrong to murder when it is righteous we would not have that instinct.
If it is your life or there's IMO murder is right.
Last edited:
ThaChozenWun;1081287 said:Which is a main reason I'm not afraid of not being in wedlock with the bible. I do right because it is was makes me sleep well at night, for me to go back to the bible at this point would be nothing more than me doing it to save my ass in the end.
That's good you're honest with just yourself.
Last edited:
BiblicalAtheist
New member
ThaChozenWun;1081298 said:1. No, greed is greed to me. I see no good in any type of greed. If you can think of a situation where greed would be good please let me know so I can think about it.
2. It's natural instinct to fight back when cornered. No sin there if it was wrong to murder when it is righteous we would not have that instinct.
If it is your life or there's IMO murder is right.
1. Yeah my bad, I just realized I read what you wrote wrong
2. But wasn't that the example jesus taught? He didn't defend himself against persecution, so neither did he teach it.
Last edited:
ThaChozenWun
New member
BiblicalAtheist;1081320 said:1. Yeah my bad, I just realized I read what you wrote wrong
2. But wasn't that the example jesus taught? He didn't defend himself against persecution, so neither did he teach it.
Yes, Jesus was written as a man of peace and a man who would die rather than survive. But God is the law, It is the way, the truth, the light. It is above Jesus. If It and Jesus preach two different gospels but they're both in the same novels wouldn't it be wrong to not follow both? Choosing sides would be going against one side and therefore is a sin?
Maybe we should follow Gods will and let our instinct take over, fight until we are on the brink of victory, and then stop allow the opponent time to recoup and then allow them to kill us, that way both beings are pleased.
Last edited:
BiblicalAtheist
New member
ThaChozenWun;1081338 said:Yes, Jesus was written as a man of peace and a man who would die rather than survive. But God is the law, It is the way, the truth, the light. It is above Jesus. If It and Jesus preach two different gospels but they're both in the same novels wouldn't it be wrong to not follow both? Choosing sides would be going against one side and therefore is a sin?
Maybe we should follow Gods will and let our instinct take over, fight until we are on the brink of victory, and then stop allow the opponent time to recoup and then allow them to kill us, that way both beings are pleased.
Lol
Yeah I don't really understand the whole 'do not kill' - 'god gave us the green light to kill' shit. Seems like somewhere along the lines, the lines of communication got muddled. Whether that is how they personally wanted god to be and thus wrote it that way, or just completely misinterpreted what god 'said' to them. Do not kill sounds like a pretty coherent sound thing say, where as god telling people to slaughter man, women, child, and ox(or whatever) sounds like something a schizophrenic would hear, you know?
Last edited:
ThaChozenWun
New member
BiblicalAtheist;1081364 said:Lol
Yeah I don't really understand the whole 'do not kill' - 'god gave us the green light to kill' shit. Seems like somewhere along the lines, the lines of communication got muddled. Whether that is how they personally wanted god to be and thus wrote it that way, or just completely misinterpreted what god 'said' to them. Do not kill sounds like a pretty coherent sound thing say, where as god telling people to slaughter man, women, child, and ox(or whatever) sounds like something a schizophrenic would hear, you know?
Me and my brother were just speaking of that today pretty much.
I seen an old clip on TV of the women in Texas who drowned her kids because God "told" her to. Everyone was saying she was crazy and deserved the death penalty, now knowing Texas that jury had to be 90% christian, it's funny to me she was crazy yet in the bible a man kills his child because God tells him to and its completely acceptable. Oh the women who killed her six kids... Fuckin bat shit crazy, now the guy in the bible it had to true cause it's in this book, he was sane as can be and simply a man of God.
I'm upset though, it seems god spoke to people daily back in the day, now he don't talk to anyone.
Last edited:
alissowack
New member
I think what is meant by this is that no one intends that their actions "pave the way to Hell", but because we don't know "the way" or the right way that it is just as much certain that even our most kind actions can even be "Hell" or our most cruel actions can be "Heaven". Who is to say ultimately what wealth and success does or what poverty and despair does for a person seeking Heaven?
Last edited:
DoUwant2go2Heaven
New member
BiblicalAtheist;1080635 said:"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
Someone made a thread about this^^^ on the old IC, it has been in my mind and I've been contemplating it off and on since then. Right now I am reading the book "Mere Christianity" by C.S Lewis and in one part he says this:
"We might think that, provided you did the right thing, it did not matter how or why you did it - whether you did it willingly or unwillingly, sulkily or cheerfully, through fear of public opinion or for it's own sake. But the truth is that right actions done for the wrong reason do not help to built the internal quality or character called "virtue", and it is this quality or character that really matters."
Could that be how the road to hell is paved with good intentions? By doing the "right" thing but for the wrong reasons?
The road to hell is not paved with good intentions. The road to hell is paved with destruction, misery, ruin, and utter despair. You see when you think with a carnal mind, this may seem foolish to you. But when you think with a spiritual mind, it all makes sense. Thats why God says to let the mind of Christ dwell in you richly, so that you can see behind the tricks, schemes, and wiles of the enemy. You see God declares that man is foolish. And God also declares that man is incapable of doing good. God also warns us that what may seem like someone doing a good deed in our eyes, can actually be the most corrupt deed imaginable because the intentions of the heart are foul and wicked.
"There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." Proverbs 14:12
Man thinks that he has good intentions. Man thinks that he knows the way. Man thinks that he has all the answers. Man thinks that he can do right all by himself. But God says, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!
God says that, "This is the way, walk ye in it." (Isaiah 30:21)
What way is that, you may be asking. Well the only way to the Father, which is through the Lord Jesus Christ.
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6
There is only 1 road, 1 way, and 1 door which leads to heaven. This road is sealed with the promise of eternal life for anybody who confesses that they are a sinner, that they are totally incapable of saving themselves, and thus require, yearn, and need a savior to come and save them from total destruction. This is the only road paved with eternal blessings, glory, hope, honor, life, and joy. The road to hell is broad and wide, and according to God, many people have found, are finding, and will find that road which leads to damnation. But God also says that there is a narrow road, which is straight and singular, and there are only a few who are able to find it. Seek ye, whoever you are that is reading this message, to enter into that narrow road that leads to eternal life. Come and live with God forever in His kingdom. The invitation is on the table, come and take your seat by inviting the Lord into your heart and life today. God bless.
"13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matthew 7:13-14
Last edited:
ThaChozenWun;1081397 said:Me and my brother were just speaking of that today pretty much.
I seen an old clip on TV of the women in Texas who drowned her kids because God "told" her to. Everyone was saying she was crazy and deserved the death penalty, now knowing Texas that jury had to be 90% christian, it's funny to me she was crazy yet in the bible a man kills his child because God tells him to and its completely acceptable. Oh the women who killed her six kids... Fuckin bat shit crazy, now the guy in the bible it had to true cause it's in this book, he was sane as can be and simply a man of God.
I'm upset though, it seems god spoke to people daily back in the day, now he don't talk to anyone.
A man kills his child? Are you talking about Abraham?
Last edited:
