The Official MIAMI HEAT 2011 - 2012 Thread....

[Ibex]

US Marine alias thread

 

[infamous114]

Let's get it!

 

[Co_Town_Michael]

These niggas aren't getting anywhere near a ring.

 

[VulcanRaven]

Fuck the bitch ass Heat and that zesty nigga Posh Spice.

 

[Beta]

Co-sign what Emm holla said bout Dalembert. We been eyein him for awhile now. Some heat fans think we could get nene but that shit aint realistic. We get dalembert and we solve our problems at C bcuz with this team a decent PG is needed but not as important

 

[Ier30]

if we get dalembert im goin pyscho liable to go micheal lmao but naw dats a good move

 

[infamous114]

Co-sign what Emm holla said bout Dalembert. We been eyein him for awhile now. Some heat fans think we could get nene but that shit aint realistic. We get dalembert and we solve our problems at C bcuz with this team a decent PG is needed but not as important

lol @ anyone who thinks we can pull off getting Nene, I'd be content with Dalembert

 

[yroholla]

Dalembert would be a nice pick up considering the C position being the least competitive of all the positions at this point....couldnt be much worse than J Anthony who is an undersized C and im sure Dalembert is much more reliable on offense than Anthony....

not a huge fan of Bibby either...hes gotten considerably slower, his shot has gotten worse and hes a total liability on defense....Chalmers is way better than him at this point but Miami needs either another shooter at PG or someone who is great defensively at PG...

Bosh has to be more aggressive down low....but hes never been that type of player so i wont totally count on it...

LeBron has to get his mental in order for that late playoff push we cant have the same debacle in the Finals as we did last year...

Hopefully Wade can stay relatively healthy this year, hes done a good job at that last year, and he gotta demand the ball everytime in the clutch now and not defer to Bron unless Bron proves himself to be reliable in clutch situations...the time is now

 

[Focal Point]

Dwight Howard going to the Knicks or some other major contending team will disagree

 

[stringer bell]

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/11/27/v-fullstory/2520114/miami-heat-gets-shot-redemption.html

Miami Heat gets its shot at redemption with end to NBA lockout

By Dan Le Batard

What we’ve learned over the past 149 days without basketball: Soul-sucking acronyms like BRI (Basketball Related Income).

What we haven’t learned: If the Miami Heat has indeed healed.

Fans had zero interest in the former and unrelenting interest in the latter, and that’s why news that the basketball lockout is now over — “Finally,” in the word of Heat star Dwyane Wade — is met in South Florida with a glee and relief and anticipation unlike anywhere else in America.

No basketball team had more to lose if this season had indeed been cancelled while owners and players fought over billions of dollars in a flabbergasting affront to fans trapped in a recession. And no team has more to play for when the season now resumes as a blessed sports gift on Christmas Day.

Last we saw them together, Heat giant Chris Bosh was collapsing in a corridor from a combination of grief and exhaustion, the sad punctuation on an arduous season unlike any South Florida has ever known, and LeBron James was defensively reminding his critics that their lives still had bills and problems, no matter how much temporary joy they got from laughing at his failure.

This famous, interesting, controversial, excellent Heat team merely existing last season was the best thing to happen to the NBA since Michael Jordan.

This Heat team losing at the end, no matter how nauseated it left a reeling South Florida, was the best thing that could have possibly happened for professional basketball, giving the rest of the sport the energy upon which our games run — hope and drama and possibility and story lines.

The young bully favorite winning on its very first try? What fun is that?

The Heat winning last season would have felt good in one basketball city. The Heat losing felt good in all but one.

And so now the story resumes as if bookmarked, with the Heat chasing something bigger than merely a championship: Shakespeare wrote about it, and Bob Marley serenaded it. The Greeks put it in the story of Hercules, and the disciples placed it in the Bible. We enjoy it in a different theater, whether it be in a Shawshank prison or in the real-life travails of a resurrected Robert Downey Jr. Redemption.

The most interesting heroes and the most interesting stories are not without flaws, but merely a celebration of how to overcome them, and so it is in sports now with the Heat, humbled by a failure that will either ravage them or act as fuel (the very definition of fuel is a combustible matter used to maintain fire, in order to create power or Heat).

The stars of this team have been touring the globe with their unexpected free time, selling sneakers in China, attending fashion shows in Paris, James even buying a soccer team in England, but if they’ve gotten fat or forgotten the sting after six long months, there is this wonderful and unpleasant reminder to usher in the sequel that’ll begin in a month:The early 66-game schedule has Miami in Dallas for the very first game of the season, when the Heat will have to watch the Mavericks get what was supposed to be Miami’s championship rings.

Last we saw these two teams, a long time ago, too long ago, Dallas was celebrating on Miami’s floor, before the quietest South Florida crowd you’ve never heard. LeBron shrunk in a way previously unseen from a superstar in this sport, from a muscled 6-8 behemoth to someone who couldn’t do anything even when posting up a garden gnome named J.J. Barea.

If James merely plays to his averages in The Finals, Miami is defending its throne now before a terrified NBA, looking to hog titles. But James looked so very afraid at the end, and so his search for validation — of his talent, of his place in the game’s history, of his Decision to take his talents to South Beach — will again be the center of basketball’s universe as the story of this new season.Courage is not the absence of fear.

That’s fearlessness, and it is not human.

Courage is the ability to overcome it, and James has had six very quiet months to wallow in his profound and public shame, to think about how he didn’t seem to want to be holding the ball or the responsibility at the end. Soon, we’ll begin to find out if he can overcome this weight, pressure and expectation.

If the sport had indeed locked out for a season, and James hadn’t even been given a chance to get up off the ground, that might have stung him more than even the $16 million he would have lost in annual salary.

His tone-deaf television special got him accused of ego, which in the world of fun and games is somehow the worst of sports crimes. Q ratings show that the most unpopular athletes are the ones who are arrogant, not the ones who are arrested. So James mocked himself in a McDonald’s ad and poked fun at his receding hairline on Twitter.

Maybe we don’t see that kind of humbling if not for the Mavericks. Fans can forgive an athlete’s mistakes (see Tiger Woods and Kobe Bryant, folks people now cheer); they are more reluctant to forgive an athlete who takes himself too seriously. So James has to be grateful that he gets this season to begin his reinvention.

Heat management went to bed Friday night thinking the season would be lost, only to find out at 4 a.m. that it had been saved by concessions on both sides. And this should tell you how badly Heat owner Micky Arison wanted that to be: He agreed to and fought for a deal that is going to cost him a lot of money.

On the business side, Miami, despite all its star power, expects to lose money again this season. That has been the case every year Arison has owned the team except for last year, when James brought in revenue and franchise appreciation at an unprecedented rate.

Even the champion 2006 Heat of Shaquille O’Neal lost money.

That’s why there was a lockout in the first place — because too many owners were losing money in what they believed to be a bad system that needed overhauling.

Losing a little money is OK for rich men like Arison who view sports ownership as a hobby and plaything, not their primary source of revenue. But it wasn’t OK for even someone as rich as Michael Jordan, now the owner of the Charlotte Bobcats.

Jordan doesn’t have revenue sources outside of basketball; he is still a Nike employee. He literally can’t afford to lose $20 million every year. Underwear commercials don’t pay that much. And that’s why Jordan, very recently a player himself, was such a hard-line owner, fighting for a hard salary cap that wouldn’t have allowed Miami to keep its three stars.

If making money was his goal, Arison would have been better off with the previous, broken system than he is with this one. He is going to have to share revenue now. He is going to have to pay a luxury tax. But Arison isn’t in this game for money. He’s in it for fun, for sport, a fan like the rest of us.

So he’ll again exchange financial losses for basketball wins — and a new system that makes Miami a big winner in this new deal from a basketball perspective, with the kind of salary-cap flexibility and loopholes that will allow President Pat Riley to get James, Wade and Bosh yet more help even as Arison takes financial losses.

We like to take note of winners and losers in sports, so people will argue today which teams win and lose with the new system and whether the owners or players won or lost at the negotiating table.But the biggest winner in the entire sport today?

Fans of the Miami Heat.

 

[stringer bell]

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/11/27/2520309/miami-heat-will-benefit-significantly.html

Miami Heat will benefit significantly from NBA deal

By Israel Gutierrez

This was supposed to be about the NBA solving its Miami Heat problem.

This new Collective Bargaining Agreement was supposed to be the kryptonite to the Super Friends, with the Cavaliers’ Dan Gilbert and the rest of the hard-line, small-market owners twisting their evil mustaches and laughing sinisterly as Pat Riley’s dream of multiple championship is ruined before it truly started.

Yet what we’re finding as the rules of the new CBA that has been tentatively agreed to leak out is the league just did the Heat a favor instead.

Rather than penalize the Heat for having three legitimate superstars on the roster to the point that breaking them up would be almost necessary, the new agreement appears to pave the way for the Heat to thrive during the next several years.

Heat owner Micky Arison would have been happy with almost any deal as long as it meant his trio of stars could continue to take the court together. It just so happens a few last-minute compromises will work entirely in his favor.

The most significant of the late concessions on the owners’ side was allowing some more flexibility for teams at or approaching the luxury tax threshold.

Under the new agreement, the Heat would still be able to use a full midlevel exception as long as it doesn’t put them more than $4 million over the luxury tax.

There had been a concern that the Heat would have to take advantage of the new “amnesty” rule and waive Mike Miller so it could then use the midlevel for a much-needed upgrade at center.

With the new rules, the Heat can choose to keep Miller and still throw midlevel money at someone such as Samuel Dalembert, who has several reasons to desire a move to Miami.

Waiving Miller might still be an option if the team knows it can replace him with one or more effective options at a cheaper price, like a Grant Hill, Michael Redd or Shane Battier — if he’s willing to play at a discounted price.

But the point is the Heat’s hand won’t be forced when it comes to keeping its core of Big 3 plus Udonis Haslem and Miller together.

So rather than take a hit from the amnesty clause before it could benefit from it, the Heat can only do the latter.

When you consider the players that will end up free agents after their current teams take advantage of the rule, there might be a line of inexpensive talent waiting to join the Heat in its quest to avenge last year’s Finals loss.

Can you picture a Heat team with LeBron James, Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade, Dalembert and, say, Baron Davis?

It wasn’t too long ago that some believed the Heat would have to lose one of the Big 3 just to abide by the rules. Now you’re looking at a team that should be significantly better than the one that was an inexplicable collapse from hoisting a second championship trophy in five years.

More talent means less pressure on LeBron, which based on his play in the Finals can only be a good thing.

And, yes, the rising salaries of the Big 3 as the years go on will likely put the Heat in luxury-tax range in future seasons, but Arison has a history of paying up when a championship is within grasp.

More than that, Arison has a potential dynasty on his hands — one that’s worth more to him and his franchise than any additionally punitive tax that would kick in after two years of the new deal.

Think Arison’s going to shy away from paying some extra bucks if it means a trophy collection?

But the primary reason the Heat is set up for major success for the length regardless of the stricter nature of this proposed CBA is this: While it is designed to keep big-market teams from spending lavishly to create new super teams, the Heat already has its in place.

It’s not impossible for the Knicks to form a team that adds Chris Paul to Amare Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony, but it certainly got a lot trickier for them to accomplish it financially.

Deputy commissioner Adam Silver said specifically Saturday that the goal of this new system was to keep the major market teams from overspending, which would, in theory, create a more balanced playing field.

So while the Heat already has its stars aligned, the Knicks or Lakers or any other team hoping to pile stars on top of stars will either have to get real creative or abandon the idea altogether.

That just means an easier route for the Heat. And maybe, just maybe, LeBron can count actual championships rather than be mocked for counting hypothetical ones.

So before Riley shaves that lockout beard, he might want to twist his mustache and belt out an evil laugh.

Because the new Collective Bargaining Agreement just gave everyone outside South Florida reason to hate the Heat even more.

i like the idea of b.diddy @ pg for heat.. also adding a vet like grant hill or battier...

 

[infamous114]

Yea, I want to see the Heat add Battier

 

[infamous114]

Looks like they May get Davis and Dalembert.... That starting five is going to be dangerous for years to come... Shit....

I remember Davis saying the Knicks or Lakers would be an option before the Heat

 

[yroholla]

another idiot, downplaying Eddie House.

Must we remind what happened once Spoelstra finally played him in the NBA finals??....it was too little too late, but he showed how a pg is supposed to compliment DWade & co. in the finals

Eddie House has no defense.....hes a chucker but he will nail some big threes when you need it....but i dont trust him defensively hes a liability

 

[Truerap]

Yeah im ready for Lebron to win his ring.

 

[Focal Point]

Eddie House has no defense.....hes a chucker but he will nail some big threes when you need it....but i dont trust him defensively hes a liability

plus his headband rotates better then spinners

 

[infamous114]

See it's getting ready to be just like last year, where I'm constantly 20 steps ahead of y'all...

House's foot speed is still outstanding, as for his lateral agility...which is all you need on the perimeter, in the HEAT's defensive scheme, which came in first in the league if you count reg. Season & playoffs. Now, the pricelessness of his offensive skill-set (he can run the offense too, if you go back to '08 ecf & chip series. Chalmers can't do it.) shines.

so it's not right for you sit and post like you didn't see his instant impact in the Finals, unlike Chalmers could be counted on for, consistently.

Let's pull up footage of his minutes from the Mav's series let's fairly gauge this, veraciously. Let's pull up his '08 ecf and NBA Finals footage...let's cut out the nonsense

Chalmers clearly outplayed Eddie House in the finals

 

[dalyricalbandit]

As a Knick fan.. Ill be the first to say.. As of today.. Without seeing how Kobe and Mike Brown will Mesh.. And seeing if Westbook has grown a PG's brain over the lockout.. And if the Bulls will get a SG that can compliment Rose and be that real 2nd option on offense.. etc.. etc.. The Heat have to be labeled as favorites.. Its the natural order.. They have too much talent and they are only going to get better.. I believe Dalembert is going there as well.. Dude is Hatian and Miami has a strong Hatian Community.. It just makes sense..

The Pecking order starts with the Heat.. Then everyone else.. BUT.. We actually have to play the games to see whats what..

MAN I LOVE THIS GAME!

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[VulcanRaven]

Yeah im ready for Lebron to win his ring.

not going to happen my niggie

 

[Ier30]

dalembert good fit davis not chemistry is everything and davis would potentially ruin that chemistry i say stick with chalmers lebron is the pg anyway him and d wade just gotta step up and be leaders with their play