The Official 2011 NFL Draft/Offseason thread

[greenwood1921]

I love our draft.
Julio Jones is what I wanted.
Rodgers is a beast
Johnson and Matthews will surprise ppl.
Bosher is a leader and that's crazy being a punter and all.

I am okay with Dent, I know his cousin who's frat.

Rodgers is the one I'm more interested in seeing next year. I KNOW Julio is the truth, and I'm iffy on Johnson and Matthews. I like Bosher because he's basically a more talented version of Koenen. And he's one of the few punters that can still do the "coffin corner" punts and long range field goals.

Rodgers is like Warrick Dunn meets Maurice Jones-Drew. He would've been a top 10 pick if he was 3 inches taller.

Dude dropped 186 yards on USC and he's like trying to tackle a gnat...

[video=youtube;6-5-KzILh1I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-5-KzILh1I[/video]

Dent could f*ck around and become a Pro-bowler. Mike Smith made his career by coaching up front-seven players (Ray Lewis, Mike Peterson, etc.) so he's got the perfect head coach for his position. He's a leader and he's smart.

 

[Mantequilla]

Aight

I give baltimore a B as it stands simply for addressing the majority of our needs with capable talent as such

If Jimmy Smith turns out to be who they REALLY think he is (next McAlister), our pass rush, though not addressed with top talent (Kindle could change that) just got a few more seconds to break Bens nose. From what I've read and little video Ive seen, he believes hes ready to be the next great Ravens defender & has the right veteran guidance around him to steer him straight

Torrey Smith on the other hand we have to play the waiting game to see just what kind of pro he turns out to be (receivers just dont grow out chea smh), and his role in our offense (knowing Cam, it'll be end-arounds till someone knocks his helmet off). Dont know exactly how good he'd be at getting past his man consistently, but he better be able to from day 1

My one gripe with our draft is not trying to immediately trade up after the Torrey pick and grab the next best available lineman, pretty sure Gilbert was still on the board at this point and he looks much more pro-ready at right tackle or guard then the unknown kat Jah Reid whos 'physicals' according to Ozzie and the boys make him special

 

[greenwood1921]

Aight

I give baltimore a B as it stands simply for addressing the majority of our needs with capable talent as such

If Jimmy Smith turns out to be who they REALLY think he is (next McAlister), our pass rush, though not addressed with top talent (Kindle could change that) just got a few more seconds to break Bens nose. From what I've read and little video Ive seen, he believes hes ready to be the next great Ravens defender & has the right veteran guidance around him to steer him straight

Torrey Smith on the other hand we have to play the waiting game to see just what kind of pro he turns out to be (receivers just dont grow out chea smh), and his role in our offense (knowing Cam, it'll be end-arounds till someone knocks his helmet off). Dont know exactly how good he'd be at getting past his man consistently, but he better be able to from day 1

My one gripe with our draft is not trying to immediately trade up after the Torrey pick and grab the next best available lineman, pretty sure Gilbert was still on the board at this point and he looks much more pro-ready at right tackle or guard then the unknown kat Jah Reid whos 'physicals' according to Ozzie and the boys make him special

LOL @ Torrey and the end-arounds.

Torrey was the receiver that the Falcons were rumored to have been lookin' at about a month ago. No hate, but Thomas Dimitroff helped build the Patriot's dynasty and his strong suit is college player evaluation -- so if Dimitroff felt he'd rather trade 4-5 picks to move up instead of taking a chance at Torrey then....

Well, u get the picture. lol.

Jimmy Smith is another Big 12 player that I'm happy is gone. He's scrappy and tough and talks a lot of shit. But overall he reminds me of D'Angelo Hall (mouth bigger than his game) with better coverage skills but not as fast.

Ravens like to leave their corners on an island, so I think Jimmy is perfect for that style.

 

[#1 pick]

Rodgers is the one I'm more interested in seeing next year. I KNOW Julio is the truth, and I'm iffy on Johnson and Matthews. I like Bosher because he's basically a more talented version of Koenen. And he's one of the few punters that can still do the "coffin corner" punts and long range field goals.

Rodgers is like Warrick Dunn meets Maurice Jones-Drew. He would've been a top 10 pick if he was 3 inches taller.

Dude dropped 186 yards on USC and he's like trying to tackle a gnat...

[video=youtube;6-5-KzILh1I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-5-KzILh1I[/video]

Dent could f*ck around and become a Pro-bowler. Mike Smith made his career by coaching up front-seven players (Ray Lewis, Mike Peterson, etc.) so he's got the perfect head coach for his position. He's a leader and he's smart.

Jackson and Matthews have a lot of talent. Injuries hurt their stock.

Bosher can hit, he's like a gunner on ST at times.

Dent ain't no Pro Bowl type. He's rotational and for ST.

Rodgers is like Joe Morris who played for the NYG in the 80's.

We need a starting OLB with the business. I would like Manny Lawson.

Draft Grade=A

 

[greenwood1921]

Jackson and Matthews have a lot of talent. Injuries hurt their stock.

Bosher can hit, he's like a gunner on ST at times.

Dent ain't no Pro Bowl type. He's rotational and for ST.

Rodgers is like Joe Morris who played for the NYG in the 80's.

We need a starting OLB with the business. I would like Manny Lawson.

Draft Grade=A

Gotta disagree on Dent. You don't spend a 3rd round pick on special teams ace. 1-3rd round players are chosen to be starters. Unless you're just talking about the 2011 season. He was in the top 5 in tackles in the SEC and he has good size. Not to mention he's a hometown ATL cat so gets to play at home.

Don't forget that the best linebacker in Falcon history wasn't drafted at all....

5-time Pro-bowler, Georgia native, and ironically was chosen to announce the Falcon's 3rd round pick which ended up being Akeem.

Agree on Bosher. Keep in mind that he was on most team's draft boards as a 6th or 7th rounder, and whenever a Kicker/Punter is even considered "draftable" (much less above 7th round) that's the equivalent of being a 1st rounder in any other position. He'll come in handy in those close Aint's games that always seem to come down to field goals every year.

And Jackson was rated as high as the 3rd round on a lot of mock boards so he's a bargain.

 

[greenwood1921]

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We need a starting OLB with the business. I would like Manny Lawson.

Draft Grade=A

All the "experts" (many of the same ones that predicted ATL would trade up in the draft) are saying Blank/Dimitroff are looking to pick up two free agents in the front seven. Namely Ray Edwards from Minnesota. And I like that. He's still young (26) and consistent (8.5 and 8 sacks in the last two seasons.)

I think the second should be my boy from Oklahoma....

...Bears cut him, but he still has a lot in the tank and has been struggling with injuries lately. But he's a top-5 interior lineman when healthy. His stats and injuries the last couple of years will make him affordable and he'll want to go to a contender.

 

[dreadlock rasta]

Gotta disagree on Dent. You don't spend a 3rd round pick on special teams ace. 1-3rd round players are chosen to be starters. Unless you're just talking about the 2011 season. He was in the top 5 in tackles in the SEC and he has good size. Not to mention he's a hometown ATL cat so gets to play at home.

Don't forget that the best linebacker in Falcon history wasn't drafted at all....

5-time Pro-bowler, Georgia native, and ironically was chosen to announce the Falcon's 3rd round pick which ended up being Akeem.

Agree on Bosher. Keep in mind that he was on most team's draft boards as a 6th or 7th rounder, and whenever a Kicker/Punter is even considered "draftable" (much less above 7th round) that's the equivalent of being a 1st rounder in any other position. He'll come in handy in those close Aint's games that always seem to come down to field goals every year.

And Jackson was rated as high as the 3rd round on a lot of mock boards so he's a bargain.

word, i aint never kicked field goals on madden.koenen leg was ass. hope this dude can kick out at least 55 yds

 

[greenwood1921]

word, i aint never kicked field goals on madden.koenen leg was ass. hope this dude can kick out at least 55 yds

Yeah, Koenen was iffy. He had range, but no accuracy. He's gonna get paid on the free-agent market tho cause he's a good punter (which is why we drafted Bosher -- 'cause Blank ain't paying him the kind of money somebody else will.)

 

[#1 pick]

Gotta disagree on Dent. You don't spend a 3rd round pick on special teams ace. 1-3rd round players are chosen to be starters. Unless you're just talking about the 2011 season. He was in the top 5 in tackles in the SEC and he has good size. Not to mention he's a hometown ATL cat so gets to play at home.

Don't forget that the best linebacker in Falcon history wasn't drafted at all....

5-time Pro-bowler, Georgia native, and ironically was chosen to announce the Falcon's 3rd round pick which ended up being Akeem.

Agree on Bosher. Keep in mind that he was on most team's draft boards as a 6th or 7th rounder, and whenever a Kicker/Punter is even considered "draftable" (much less above 7th round) that's the equivalent of being a 1st rounder in any other position. He'll come in handy in those close Aint's games that always seem to come down to field goals every year.

And Jackson was rated as high as the 3rd round on a lot of mock boards so he's a bargain.

Lofton is Tuggle 2.0

Bosher isn't taking the kicker job. Bryant was pretty good for us this year.

 

[greenwood1921]

Lofton is Tuggle 2.0

Bosher isn't taking the kicker job. Bryant was pretty good for us this year.

I'm talkin' long range field goals with Bosher. And if he does well with FG's in camp -- they'll get a cheap/decent punter and drop Bryant -- trust.

And yeah, Lofton is my boy too...

I'm just sayin' you shouldn't sleep on Dent just 'cause he doesn't have a lot of hype around his name right now. Mike Smith gets the most out of his LB's no matter what, so any LB we get with talent is a good look.

 

[greenwood1921]

1st of all - Why is this not a sticky anymore??? (Narada on that bullsh!t.)

2nd -- After a couple weeks to digest -- Give your team's DRAFT GRADES!, and who you think will be the Off and Def R.O.Y.

I give the Falcons a C+ for now, but it could easily turn out to be a +A or -D depending on the next couple of years.

NFL Network thinks otherwise.....

[video]http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d81fa5652/NFC-South-draft-grades[/video]

OFF R.O.Y. Either Ingram or Julio --- They both have an advantage because they're both joining offenses that don't need them to be effective -- therefore no defense will be able to key up on them - a luxury most top draft talents don't have.

DEF R.O.Y. -- Von Miller. That pick surprised a lot of "sportscenter" fans, but not me. As a Oklahoma fan and Big-12-head, I'm so fuckin' glad this dude is no longer @ A&M I don't know how to act. He's like a faster, more talented version of James Harrison in Pittsburgh. If they use him right (straight up rusher off the edge) he could get double digit sacks in '11. No exaggeration.

Bump 'till Narada an' nem get they shit 2gether.

 

[Ounceman]

1st of all - Why is this not a sticky anymore??? (Narada on that bullsh!t.)

2nd -- After a couple weeks to digest -- Give your team's DRAFT GRADES!, and who you think will be the Off and Def R.O.Y.

I give the Falcons a C+ for now, but it could easily turn out to be a +A or -D depending on the next couple of years.

NFL Network thinks otherwise.....

[video]http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d81fa5652/NFC-South-draft-grades[/video]

OFF R.O.Y. Either Ingram or Julio --- They both have an advantage because they're both joining offenses that don't need them to be effective -- therefore no defense will be able to key up on them - a luxury most top draft talents don't have.

DEF R.O.Y. -- Von Miller. That pick surprised a lot of "sportscenter" fans, but not me. As a Oklahoma fan and Big-12-head, I'm so fuckin' glad this dude is no longer @ A&M I don't know how to act. He's like a faster, more talented version of James Harrison in Pittsburgh. If they use him right (straight up rusher off the edge) he could get double digit sacks in '11. No exaggeration.

Lol and smh @ my team being the most controversial on the nfl network when it came to draft grades.

Anyway Titans draft grade: B

Imo, mike reinfeldt knows how to pick em, and he damn near did it flawlessly again this year. if only for one pick. and one of the most crucial picks out of the entire draft: the first one. which brings the entire grade down a letter. my heart was pumping when i saw no one obtained gabbert when he got around to us. i mean, he's not perfect(no qb in this draft class was) but he was imo, the best pick among the first round qb's. hell i wouldve even settled for kaepernick in round 2. but then i saw we selected who i was afraid of saying because i might jinx myself, jake locker. the same qb who had a 57% completion percentage. the same and only qb whose numbers regressed instead of progressing his junior to senior year. the same qb who scored the lowest on the wonderlick test out of all the other qb's. even newton. i thought we were fixing the young situation, not prolonging it(which by the way i would much rather keep young if this is the alternative). but the more im reading about him, in a sick and twisted way im kind of growing a liking to him. i guess its more of an if u cant beat em join em kind of thing. but he still has alot to prove to me before i can say he's the answer we need.

But aside from that one, we did exceptionally well. we addressed all of the positions we needed to. i came in saying we needed an DB, OLB, and OL and we did just that .

OFF ROY. Jaime Harper - IMO, the use of the FB position is damn near extinct. but with the addition of harper i think will be able to resurrect it by utilizing him properly. he's the supplementary change of pace we're missing for cj2k. the combination of their power and speed will be deadly. unfortunately, the idiotic fisher cut him before the season began, but i think youll start to see that he is what lagarette blount would have been if he were to stay with us.

DEF ROY. Akeem Ayers - Ive watched highlights of him and he was alot of upside to him. he's very enrgetic as an edge rusher and he's a flexible playmaker. as he can play many different positions, and he can also fit in a 3-4 set. something i think will be very effective under jerry gray's new defensive scheme. as we are moving toward a hybrid of a 4-3 and 3-4 defense

 

[greenwood1921]

Lol and smh @ my team being the most controversial on the nfl network when it came to draft grades.

Anyway Titans draft grade: B

Imo, mike reinfeldt knows how to pick em, and he damn near did it flawlessly again this year. if only for one pick. and one of the most crucial picks out of the entire draft: the first one. which brings the entire grade down a letter. my heart was pumping when i saw no one obtained gabbert when he got around to us. i mean, he's not perfect(no qb in this draft class was) but he was imo, the best pick among the first round qb's. hell i wouldve even settled for kaepernick in round 2. but then i saw we selected who i was afraid of saying because i might jinx myself, jake locker. the same qb who had a 57% completion percentage. the same and only qb whose numbers regressed instead of progressing his junior to senior year. the same qb who scored the lowest on the wonderlick test out of all the other qb's. even newton. i thought we were fixing the young situation, not prolonging it(which by the way i would much rather keep young if this is the alternative). but the more im reading about him, in a sick and twisted way im kind of growing a liking to him. i guess its more of an if u cant beat em join em kind of thing. but he still has alot to prove to me before i can say he's the answer we need.

But aside from that one, we did exceptionally well. we addressed all of the positions we needed to. i came in saying we needed an DB, OLB, and OL and we did just that .

OFF ROY. Jaime Harper - IMO, the use of the FB position is damn near extinct. but with the addition of harper i think will be able to resurrect it by utilizing him properly. he's the supplementary change of pace we're missing for cj2k. the combination of their power and speed will be deadly. unfortunately, the idiotic fisher cut him before the season began, but i think youll start to see that he is what lagarette blount would have been if he were to stay with us.

DEF ROY. Akeem Ayers - Ive watched highlights of him and he was alot of upside to him. he's very enrgetic as an edge rusher and he's a flexible playmaker. as he can play many different positions, and he can also fit in a 3-4 set. something i think will be very effective under jerry gray's new defensive scheme. as we are moving toward a hybrid of a 4-3 and 3-4 defense

I've been saying it all year, and I'll say it again re: Locker and Gabbert.

DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE.

I'm very familiar with Gabbert and trust me when I tell you -- he was a combine warrior and hype product. Chase Daniel (Redskins backup) was better at Mizzou than Gabbert was and had better stats.

Locker -- while he didn't have the cutest year last year, he does have all of the things you want in a NFL QB. Not saying either will be great or will be garbage, but I just don't buy the hype that the Locker pick was a bad one. And I won't believe until he proves me wrong on the field.

That Vikings/Ponder pick doe....

 

[KeepOnPushing]

Yo OunceMan lemme be the First To tell you that Jaimie Harper is Fuckin Brutal, all out trash, im from SC so usually the south carolina or clemson games are on here Local channel wise, and Harper is Garbage, Dude is all that size for no fuckin reason, he runs like he's 5'5 135 , he jukes behind the line of scrimmage over and over and over and over, i think he's had maybe at best 3 Really good games his whole career there that are like standout games.....

Besides that he was Trash, he came out of HS rated the #1 RB and grossly underachieved , he is not a change of pace back at all, thats the biggest myth about him because you see his Size on paper and figure he's a power back but he runs nothing like that at all, Chris Johnson runs WAY harder between tackles than harper does, ya'll did not get a change of pace back....He's a big ass twinkle toes.

If you look at his highlights you will be very mislead, He is soft as can be..

 

[greenwood1921]

Yo OunceMan lemme be the First To tell you that Jaimie Harper is Fuckin Brutal, all out trash, im from SC so usually the south carolina or clemson games are on here Local channel wise, and Harper is Garbage, Dude is all that size for no fuckin reason, he runs like he's 5'5 135 , he jukes behind the line of scrimmage over and over and over and over, i think he's had maybe at best 3 Really good games his whole career there that are like standout games.....

Besides that he was Trash, he came out of HS rated the #1 RB and grossly underachieved , he is not a change of pace back at all, thats the biggest myth about him because you see his Size on paper and figure he's a power back but he runs nothing like that at all, Chris Johnson runs WAY harder between tackles than harper does, ya'll did not get a change of pace back....He's a big ass twinkle toes.

If you look at his highlights you will be very mislead, He is soft as can be..

Well damn, tell us how u really feel about dude. lol

 

[greenwood1921]

Oh, and I meant the overall rookies of the year, not just on your teams.

 

[KeepOnPushing]

Well damn, tell us how u really feel about dude. lol

Cuz it was just Gross to watch , Dude is big as hell and goes down on shoe string tackles, doesnt hit the hole at all....

and Got his Job Ripped by a 5'9 175 Runningback in Andre Ellington....

 

[greenwood1921]

Cuz it was just Gross to watch , Dude is big as hell and goes down on shoe string tackles, doesnt hit the hole at all....

and Got his Job Ripped by a 5'9 175 Runningback in Andre Ellington....

I'm a Falcon fan so I can't really get mad at big ass running backs that run like scat-backs....

^^^^ But his career would've been a lot longer and better if he would've hit the hole harder. Two straight seasons after the Super Bowl year, he blew out his knee trying to juke behind the line of scrimmage like Barry Sanders. smh.

 

[KeepOnPushing]

Oh, and I meant the overall rookies of the year, not just on your teams.

Offensive i'll say : Julio Jones or Jon Baldwin ....there already set up on teams that have weapons and wont get all out doubled team right away and will def get playing time early..

Defensive : this is tougher , but i'll Just throw JJ Watt out there.

 

[greenwood1921]

Offensive i'll say : Julio Jones or Jon Baldwin ....there already set up on teams that have weapons and wont get all out doubled team right away and will def get playing time early..

Defensive : this is tougher , but i'll Just throw JJ Watt out there.

Doubting Baldwin, but JJ Watt makes sense. With big Mario on the other side and Wade Phillips being one of the best DC's when it comes to getting to the QB -- he might have a good shot at double-digit sacks.

I'd still put my paper on Von Miller.