The Jigga Man Shawn Carter aka JayZ Official Thread...

[musicology1985]

This is a closed minded coment. This is 2010. If you haven't realised that everything that Malcom stood for was not always correct you another lost blackman.
MLK is a better role model.

Right before MLK died, he told Harry Belafonte that he feared that he was leading his people into a burning house (in which he did.)

He was trying to harden his stance before he died and he was eliminated because of this.

People don't know this, bit MLK came from the same Boule apparatus as Dubois but before he died he realized the error in his ways and was prepared to die if he had to. Unfortunately, the damage had already been done.

 

[Mumo X]

This is a closed minded coment. This is 2010. If you haven't realised that everything that Malcom stood for was not always correct you another lost blackman.

MLK is a better role model.

"No Malcolm X in my history text, why is that? Cause he tried to Educate Blacks. Why is Martin Luther King in my book each week? Cause he told Blacks if they get smacked, turn the other cheek"- Tupac Amaru Shakur

 

[DatNiggaB1]

Right before MLK died, he told Harry Belafonte that he feared that he was leading his people into a burning house (in which he did.)

He was trying to harden his stance before he died and he was eliminated because of this.

People don't know this, bit MLK came from the same Boule apparatus as Dubois but before he died he realized the error in his ways and was prepared to die if he had to. Unfortunately, the damage had already been done.

All I know is that he didn't really promote segreagtion and encourage our people to take the voilent approach........which in the long run would of been worse for us than the route MLK went.

 

[musicology1985]

All I know is that he didn't really promote segreagtion and encourage our people to take the voilent approach........which in the long run would of been worse for us than the route MLK went.

IT WAS ABOUT BEING INDEPENDENT. VIOLENCE WAS TO BE USED IN SELF DEFENSE AND SEGREGATION WAS TO BE USED TO CONSERVE RESOURCES STRICTLY FOR BLACKS.

MLK's plan was not better because we can't do anything without permission. You can have 1, 100, 1,000, 100,000 to 1,000,000 Dollars, but guess what? Whites and other non Blacks got the say so over you somewhere either directly or through the CHAIN OF COMMAND. The whole world is like this for Blacks. The whole world.....

 

[DatNiggaB1]

"No Malcolm X in my history text, why is that? Cause he tried to Educate Blacks. Why is Martin Luther King in my book each week? Cause he told Blacks if they get smacked, turn the other cheek"- Tupac Amaru Shakur

Nice, and I see the point ya making. And I cant get into this right now, I have to be out but I'm very open to be skooled and spit some knowledge wid you on this subject.

 

[innercity99]

what in thee fuck has this thread turned in too?

Lls I was thinking the same thing smh

 

[hrap-120]

All I know is that he didn't really promote segreagtion and encourage our people to take the voilent approach........which in the long run would of been worse for us than the route MLK went.

Violence is what birthed this nation...violence and bloodshed.

The Euro-caucasion used violence to secure this land mass in America, then he used violence to free himself from British rule, then he used violence to build this country with slave-labor, then he used violence to maintain slavery.

A violent approach is the only approach that the Euro-caucasion understands.

Segregation is wonderful, every great culture was at its peak when they were segregated, and every culture crumbled when they were integrated with the Euro-caucasion.

 

[DatNiggaB1]

IT WAS ABOUT BEING INDEPENDENT. VIOLENCE WAS TO BE USED IN SELF DEFENSE AND SEGREGATION WAS TO BE USED TO CONSERVE RESOURCES STRICTLY FOR BLACKS.

MLK's plan was not better because we can't do anything without permission. You can have 1, 100, 1,000, 100,000 to 1,000,000 Dollars, but guess what? Whites and other non Blacks got the say so over you somewhere either directly or through the CHAIN OF COMMAND. The whole world is like this for Blacks. The whole world.....

So the alternative is to have Black owned everything? When the world is run by whiteman? A Black Wallstreet? Black Governement? And where would we all live? It doesn't seem feasiable no matter how good it sounds.

 

[DatNiggaB1]

Violence is what birthed this nation...violence and bloodshed.

The Euro-caucasion used violence to secure this land mass in America, then he used violence to free himself from British rule, then he used violence to build this country with slave-labor, then he used violence to maintain slavery.

A violent approach is the only approach that the Euro-caucasion understands.

Segregation is wonderful, every great culture was at its peak when they were segregated, and every culture crumbled when they were integrated with the Euro-caucasion.

What up Hrap

It doesn't seem feasiable no matter how good it sounds.

 

[DatNiggaB1]

I really got go niggas but I will be back to get on this.

Tell Fazeem Biggie says whatup nigga!!

lols

 

[musicology1985]

So the alternative is to have Black owned everything? When the world is run by whiteman? A Black Wallstreet? Black Governement? And where would we all live? It doesn't seem feasiable no matter how good it sounds.

MOOR BULLSHIT.

Chinese Americans have resources conserved strictly for themselves.................

the same applies to:

Mexican Americans

Arab Americans

European Americans (of course)

Korean Americans

& East Indian Americans

The white man and his nigga been putting the smackdown on you and you like it. I already said that most blacks are of your breed. All you need is some Vaseline and you're good.

 

[musicology1985]

@DatNiggaB1

It ain't about what it sounds like, it's about what it is.

Every time we try to go indie, the apparatus strikes which consists of both blacks and whites with a white and non black command structure. We at war and we all have to choose a position.

 

[Focal Point]

@c1up

Just because some folks are uninterested, stagnate, lazy or mainly lacking desire which many of our ppl are doesn't make them coons and house niggas.

This was not a problem before 1970. You know what happened? Martin Luther King got his way and Malcolm X didn't. In turn we became more dependent than ever before. And all of our top groups have failed to move as a cohesive unite because at the top of all of those groups is one common goal that is detrimental to us all, "maintaining the status quo."

You wanna know why our ppl are in the position we're in now? Try dissension amongst us over this and that,

Who started the dissension? The Boule attacked the UNIA on behalf of the white man and any student of history knows this. The house nigga and feild nigga been going at it for a long time. Even the brother who cosigned you (UPTOWNCONNEXX) knows that this is fact because Garvey was in Uptown and had the people ready to build before its disruption by the white man and his house nigga (WEB Dubois,) amongst others.

cats that aren't trying to reach but rather preach and prod and accuse, ppl get tired of it and lose desire

Bullshit. Black Americans just hate the truth. I forgot one example, THE BLACK ATHLETES AND GENERAL ENTERTAINERS. That's billions in revenue right there and none of em' control their own industry. Why? Because it's just a huge coalition of house niggas who never even HAD THE DESIRE TO BECOME TIRED TO BEGIN WITH.

1. How bout the problem being everyone has their own opinions on how things should be, how bout some end up being poor examples as leaders because o I don't know they're human and have weakness, not an excuse but a truth. Malcolm also was looking at things quite differently after his trip to Mecca.

2. Dissension starts with disagreement in anger that someone's opinion doesn't match theirs. That another idea is too soft or too hard to work, because results won't be obtain in the same manner preferred. Ppl want folks to agree with them so bad that many are willing to put you and your ideas down, to tear you down and builid you up in their idea of what way things should be... almost if not is militant and not everyone is going to be hip to that.

3. So you don't hear ppl saying stop preaching or badgering me or they don't wanna hear that bullshit or go get money nigga or I got better things to do then listen to this or they can go read a book if they need to learn some shit... hell they say it on here many a time... get with the program, not everything is black and white there is grey. And there are niggas that berate you for this and that instead of trying to get you to draw your own conclusions... just because you haven't experienced it does not mean it does not happen, which it does quite often because many ppl don't know how to talk to ppl

 

[Focal Point]

The white man and his nigga been putting the smackdown on you and you like it. I already said that most blacks are of your breed. All you need is some Vaseline and you're good.

and this right here... is were you lose ppl at because of abrasive and confrontational shit like this, quite uncalled for, and does nothing but to cause dissension and anger

 

[PLASTIC RULES]

i keep the heater on my side in case niggas get froggy nh

 

[musicology1985]

@c1up

1. How bout the problem being everyone has their own opinions on how things should be, how bout some end up being poor examples as leaders because o I don't know they're human and have weakness, not an excuse but a truth. Malcolm also was looking at things quite differently after his trip to Mecca.

House Niggas have specifically targeted and taken out all pereived threats to white supremacy & their caste status within that. For those who slip through the house niggas first line of defense, the white man or other ethnic groups got something for him or her.

2. Dissension starts with disagreement in anger that someone's opinion doesn't match theirs. That another idea is too soft or too hard to work, because results won't be obtain in the same manner preferred. Ppl want folks to agree with them so bad that many are willing to put you and your ideas down, to tear you down and builid you up in their idea of what way things should be... almost if not is militant and not everyone is going to be hip to that.

We have everything we need to make the change, but house niggas, whites & other groups have been working diligently to prevent this from happening for the last 104 years.

3. So you don't hear ppl saying stop preaching or badgering me or they don't wanna hear that bullshit or go get money nigga or I got better things to do then listen to this or they can go read a book if they need to learn some shit... hell they say it on here many a time... get with the program, not everything is black and white there is grey. And there are niggas that berate you for this and that instead of trying to get you to draw your own conclusions... just because you haven't experienced it does not mean it does not happen, which it does quite often because many ppl don't know how to talk to ppl

I don't have to baby blacks that don't like the reality and truth of our current situation. If they can't take the heat, they have plenty softer outlets and they're the majority anyway. The same applies to your second statement. As far as Malcolm, he was still pro-independence.
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[Focal Point]

@c1up

1. How bout the problem being everyone has their own opinions on how things should be, how bout some end up being poor examples as leaders because o I don't know they're human and have weakness, not an excuse but a truth. Malcolm also was looking at things quite differently after his trip to Mecca.

House Niggas have specifically targeted and taken out all pereived threats to white supremacy & their caste status within that. For those who slip through the house niggas first line of defense, the white man or other ethnic groups got something for him or her.

2. Dissension starts with disagreement in anger that someone's opinion doesn't match theirs. That another idea is too soft or too hard to work, because results won't be obtain in the same manner preferred. Ppl want folks to agree with them so bad that many are willing to put you and your ideas down, to tear you down and builid you up in their idea of what way things should be... almost if not is militant and not everyone is going to be hip to that.

We have everything we need to make the change, but house niggas, whites & other groups have been working diligently to prevent this from happening for the last 104 years.

3. So you don't hear ppl saying stop preaching or badgering me or they don't wanna hear that bullshit or go get money nigga or I got better things to do then listen to this or they can go read a book if they need to learn some shit... hell they say it on here many a time... get with the program, not everything is black and white there is grey. And there are niggas that berate you for this and that instead of trying to get you to draw your own conclusions... just because you haven't experienced it does not mean it does not happen, which it does quite often because many ppl don't know how to talk to ppl

I don't have to baby blacks that don't like the reality and truth of our current situation. If they can't take the heat, they have plenty softer outlets and they're the majority anyway. The same applies to your second statement. As far as Malcolm, he was still pro-independence.

1. There are plenty who fight for a better tomorrow with compassion, patience, and understanding... the heavy handed technique while effective in some ways is poor in others and detrimental at worse

2. You can't blame everything on the white man and house niggas... self failure and trial and error do play a part

3. But understand, if you're gonna be a teacher... then you have to realize that everybody learns differently and receives and transmitt ideas differently as well, you can't bash everyone over the head because then they'll become stubborn and adverse to what you're trying to kick

 

[musicology1985]

@c1up

1. There are plenty who fight for a better tomorrow with compassion, patients, and understanding... the heavy handed technique while effective in some ways is poor in others and detrimental at worse

The House Niggas have the heavy hand at their disposal and have used it repeatedly throughout the past century in order to maintain their caste status.

2. You can't blame everything on the white man and house niggas... self failure and trial and error do play a part

Personal failure is personal failure, but change for our people AS A WHOLE is another subject altogether and that's what we're talking about.

3. But understand, if you're gonna be a teacher... then you have to realize that everybody learns differently and receives and transmitt ideas differently as well, you can't bash everyone over the head because then they'll become stubborn and adverse to what you're trying to kick

I know how to deal with house niggas, field niggas, crackers and other ethnic groups.

Boriquas, Chaldeans & East Indians love me & I keep prominant and working class Euros on speed dial.........

THAT STILL DOESN'T CHANGE THE REALITY OF OUR CONDITION.

 

[musicology1985]

And don't think that just because I tell the truth about us means that I hate my House Nigga brothers.

We gone continue to battle it out until we get back on top, but they still my family and blood. BLACK IS BLACK...

2pacalypse mother fuckin' now
Y'all can kiss my ass and suck my dick
And my uncle Tommy's balls
Fuck Y'all
Punks, punks, punks, punks, punks

-2Pac (I don't give a fuck)

1991

 

[Focal Point]

@c1up

1. There are plenty who fight for a better tomorrow with compassion, patients, and understanding... the heavy handed technique while effective in some ways is poor in others and detrimental at worse



The House Niggas have the heavy hand at their disposal and have used it repeatedly throughout the past century in order to maintain their caste status.

2. You can't blame everything on the white man and house niggas... self failure and trial and error do play a part

Personal failure is personal failure, but change for our people AS A WHOLE is another subject altogether and that's what we're talking about.

3. But understand, if you're gonna be a teacher... then you have to realize that everybody learns differently and receives and transmitt ideas differently as well, you can't bash everyone over the head because then they'll become stubborn and adverse to what you're trying to kick

I know how to deal with house niggas, field niggas, crackers and other ethnic groups.

Boriquas, Chaldeans & East Indians love me & I keep prominant and working class Euros on speed dial.........

THAT STILL DOESN'T CHANGE THE REALITY OF OUR CONDITION.

1. So your take is to copy their style which creates no dialogue and increases dissension... you don't have to use a heavy hand to get your point across or to appear strong and secure

2. When I say self failure, I mean that as individuals and as a ppl... we make mistakes, we misunderstand, we strive we makes us stronger, many individuals will learn and discover the way to reach all of our ppl not just pick and popping individuals.

3. I never said it did change our reality, my point was for our ppl you have to learn how to work with each and every individual and learn how they learn in order to better reach them