Tariq Nasheed: Slavery Wasn't That Bad For Black Women

[NothingButTheTruth]

I wonder if y'all would be defending it, if that same exact video was put out by this guy ...

What would that prove? That's equivalent to a black dude calling you nigga, in contrast to a white dude calling you nigga. It completely changes the context of the statement.

Not equivalent at all.

It does not scale.

Someone using a single isolated term to either evoke Endearment ... OR evoke Racism

DOES NOT EQUAL

Someone making several generalizations and coveying a sentiment invalidating the experience of a whole demographic of people.

Are you implying that Tariq was conveying a sentiment of endearment towards Black Women by claiming that they enjoyed getting raped by their slave masters?? ...

Please explain that to me...

My point was, a black person saying something about his own people and a white person saying something about black people completely changes the context.... OBVIOUSLY. Sometimes it's best to keep it simple.

My point is that we should not withhold criticism and excuse the behavior of individuals simply becuse they are black and/or they are relateable.

If a stream of consciousness would be deemed abhorrent coming from a white man that we hate ...

That EXACT SAME stream of consciousness should also be scrutinized coming from a black man that we relate to.

Scrutinized sure, discredited then demonized, absolutely not.

Then you have to take into consideration the dynamic between white people and black people. Generally speaking, white people have been proven to despise black people and wish them/us nothing but harm, so when they say suspect shit about black people, it's absorbed completely different than if a different group of people says the same.

 

[Ol Jay's]

:joy: "They even threw Dionne Warwick in the mix too, with her pickle nose ass" :joy: :joy:

"We have a 1000 Katrine Steffans and Carmen Bryants, lil punk ass dry snitching bitches" :joy: :joy:

 

[Fosheezy]

All I gotta say bout dude is:

"A man named Maurian" - Tariq

Nggas that your source?

 

[5th Letter]

Niggas claim he didn't say it literally 1 minute in he talking about sistas selling out slave revolts because "at least im being fed, at least im being clothed and he gets to fuck me which ain't too bad."

Yeah some of you niggas in a thunderstorm claiming sunshine, as usual. Stop letting these niggas "teach" you.

This is coming from you of all people?

Anyway this video was posted by known coon Tommy Sotomayor so that tells you everything you need to know.

The nigga's words speak for themselves. No matter who posted it. He said some fuck shit, accept it and move on.

So your listening comprehension is lacking or you're trolling.

 

[Bussy_Getta]

Tariq Nasheed is an idiot.

I see you white chocolate!

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

This is some extraordinary sad shit here ....you literally have negros making click bait threads to demonize an individual out of some sort of irrational bizarre hatred

1.Nowhere in the video does he say what's implied in the thread title ...so we're already starting from a place of intellectual dishonesty

2.He literally preferences his statement by saying "I'm not talking about all black women I don't want y'all to think I'm dissing all sistas I'm certainly making a sweeping general statement for the purposes of speaking to a general audience" that's damn near less than 1 minute into the video and the statement that he used as a generalization was more about black women not snitching on white men that they are aligned with and he went back to slavery to give context to the origin of that psychology ..yet the TS still found it apt to create this corny ass thread lmao

3.He gives an actual reference to the kind of individual he was talking about ...which is the house slave who albeit was certainly still oppresed didn't have the same experience as the individuals in the field ..same dynamic brutha Malcom X articulated over 40 years ago yet for some reason the irrational hate for dude leads to people now calling that historical dynamic false? and there's outrage? And he's hostile towards women and possibly gay? Lol ...Yikes

Ultimately what it is with niggas like dude is he's not the square ass pretentious "intellect" that these people are used to receiving information from and to a lot of negros that startles them as they are uncomfortable dealing with a an individual with his kind of background because they're trained to scrutinize black men that aren't propped up by the mechanisms of white supremacy ...if you don't have validation from some white operated institution it makes you appear to be less authoritative in the eyes these kind of negros ....and that's all that this smear campaign shit is ....I certainly don't agree with Tariq on everything (such as his stance on voting) but this manufactured controversy...it's really sad seeing it play out TBH

And the video is from Tommy Sotomayor??? =) SAD

 

[5th Letter]

This is some extraordinary sad shit here ....you literally have negros making click bait threads to demonize an individual out of some sort of irrational bizarre hatred

1.Nowhere in the video does he say what's implied in the thread title ...so we're already starting from a place of intellectual dishonesty

2.He literally preferences his statement by saying "I'm not talking about all black women I don't want y'all to think I'm dissing all sistas I'm certainly making a sweeping general statement for the purposes of speaking to a general audience" that's damn near less than 1 minute into the video and the statement that he used as a generalization was more about black women not snitching on white men that they are aligned with and he went back to slavery to give context to the origin of that psychology ..yet the TS still found it apt to create this corny ass thread lmao

3.He gives an actual reference to the kind of individual he was talking about ...which is the house slave who albeit was certainly still oppresed didn't have the same experience as the individuals in the field ..same dynamic brutha Malcom X articulated over 40 years ago yet for some reason the irrational hate for dude leads to people now calling that historical dynamic false? and there's outrage? And he's hostile towards women and possibly gay? Lol ...Yikes

Ultimately what it is with niggas like dude is he's not the square ass pretentious "intellect" that these people are used to receiving information from and to a lot of negros that startles them as they are uncomfortable dealing with a an individual with his kind of background because they're trained to scrutinize black men that aren't propped up by the mechanisms of white supremacy ...if you don't have validation from some white operated institution it makes you appear to be less authoritative in the eyes these kind of negros ....and that's all that this smear campaign shit is ....I certainly don't agree with Tariq on everything (such as his stance on voting) but this manufactured controversy...it's really sad seeing it play out TBH

And the video is from Tommy Sotomayor??? =) SAD

But but but he said slavery wasn't so bad for black women.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him. I honestly don't know and was curious.

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him.I honestly don't know and was curious.

Says the negro who just two pages prior claimed to possibly be "too intellectual to get into hidden colors" .... disregarding the multiple scholars phds and individuals with years of field study who comprise the overwhelming bulk of content being disbursed in the series ..

This shit a mess on here

 

[Trillfate]

But the gag is...

That man is gay. I have the scorching hot tea.

i dont believe it.. wasnt he a pimp or something like that? Lol

 

[CashmoneyDux]

Woah woah woah he gettin money tho so it's cool remember?

 

[semi-auto-mato]

This is an interesting thread. Some folks rock with Tariq hard and others don't. Tariq is not a historian. He doesn't speak like a historian and he doesn't research like a historian. he makes statements that are either half true or false. he said there was no successful slave revolt. as a historian I would ask why is the civil war not considered a slave revolt? as far back as Spartacus wars were considered slave revolts. over a 200k blacks fought in the civil war. they won their freedom. there are over 300 slave revolts on record. how is he judging these revolts as successful or unsuccessful. Fredrick douglass fought back and won his freedom. he was successful. plenty folks made their way to the north. they were successful. nat turner wasn't the only revolt.

as a historian we are taught how to research and we are taught to make logical conclusions. u can't always take information make it fit ur narrative and leave it at that. a poster talked about bodhidharma and the black samurai. we don't know if bodhidharma was black or not but as historians we take the evidence and look at that time period and come to a logical conclusion. it makes sense that bodhidharma was from either central or southeast asia. he was dark skinned. that's how Tariq does though. he makes a statement and then leaves it at that. u cant do history justice like that.

here is a link about the black samurai. its by a Runoko Rashidi (a black historian). read the article look at how he reference his sources. this is how we are taught. Tariq is not meeting the standards necessary. im not against what he is doing. he has an audience. more of u know who he is than Runoko Rashidi. I hope that Tariq sparks a curiosity in u that leads u to find folks like Rashidi.
http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/09...ye-no-tamuramaro-black-shogun-of-early-japan/

 

[The Lonious Monk]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him.I honestly don't know and was curious.

Says the negro who just two pages prior claimed to possibly be "too intellectual to get into hidden colors" .... disregarding the multiple scholars phds and individuals with years of field study who comprise the overwhelming bulk of content being disbursed in the series ..

This shit a mess on here

Is that what I really said? Really? I think some of ya'll niggas just have inferiority complexes and legitimate inferiority. Dr. Umar Johnson has a PhD in psychology or something like that, so that means he knows everything about Asian History and we should all just accept what he says without questioning the basis behind his claims huh?

If you think expecting claims to be sourced or backed by some reasonable proof is being too intellectual, I don't know what to tell you other than this guy I work with said the most valuable substance on the planet is silicon dioxide. He has a PhD in emergency management so he knows what he's talking about. I've got a ton of the stuff and I'll give it to you for a good price since you're such a good and knowledgeable guy. What's up? You down?

 

[NoCompetition]

This is an interesting thread. Some folks rock with Tariq hard and others don't. Tariq is not a historian. He doesn't speak like a historian and he doesn't research like a historian. he makes statements that are either half true or false. he said there was no successful slave revolt. as a historian I would ask why is the civil war not considered a slave revolt? as far back as Spartacus wars were considered slave revolts. over a 200k blacks fought in the civil war. they won their freedom. there are over 300 slave revolts on record. how is he judging these revolts as successful or unsuccessful. Fredrick douglass fought back and won his freedom. he was successful. plenty folks made their way to the north. they were successful. nat turner wasn't the only revolt.

as a historian we are taught how to research and we are taught to make logical conclusions. u can't always take information make it fit ur narrative and leave it at that. a poster talked about bodhidharma and the black samurai. we don't know if bodhidharma was black or not but as historians we take the evidence and look at that time period and come to a logical conclusion. it makes sense that bodhidharma was from either central or southeast asia. he was dark skinned. that's how Tariq does though. he makes a statement and then leaves it at that. u cant do history justice like that.

here is a link about the black samurai. its by a Runoko Rashidi (a black historian). read the article look at how he reference his sources. this is how we are taught. Tariq is not meeting the standards necessary. im not against what he is doing. he has an audience. more of u know who he is than Runoko Rashidi. I hope that Tariq sparks a curiosity in u that leads u to find folks like Rashidi.
http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/09...ye-no-tamuramaro-black-shogun-of-early-japan/

This is why i dont listen to dude or care what he says. My instincts and the little bit I've noticed tell me he is not someone to listen too. I think im better off using my own sense and discernment. Why follow this dude to nonsense?

I notice people blaming Hillary and Obama for this dude's statements. Thats a weird level of disconnect. What do they have to do with this to even try to deflect to them? What level are this dude's "followers" at? How does it even get to that how do you go there mentally? Either these people are not really who they portray to be and have an agenda to confuse and mislead (which worked this round) or confused and disconnected individuals who lack a degree of common sense. There are enough people who know better and have discernment but they just need to use it.

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

Rashidi is in Tariq's Hidden Colors series and I believe that he was strictly speaking to slave revolts in American history ....it would be interesting to hear him define what he considered a successful slave revolt however ...I can only assume that he meant success in the sense of liberating Black Americans in the regions were the revolts took place im honestly not 100 percent sure

 

[a.mann]

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him. I honestly don't know and was curious.

You dare ask why Flex commands such loyality and devotion???

smh

See...youse a square ass nigga!

you don't have no game or recognize game playa!

This...this joint here....this is holy scriptures for young black macks looking to come up! I'm talkin' New Testament, Torah,Quran,Tripitakas all rolled in one!

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Rashidi is in Tariq's Hidden Colors series and I believe that he was strictly speaking to slave revolts in American history ....it would be interesting to hear him define what he considered a successful slave revolt however ...I can only assume that he meant success in the sense of liberating Black Americans in the regions were the revolts took place im honestly not 100 percent sure

Hold on my dude. You took shots at me for questioning claims made in the shit, but you yourself don't even know how true some of the claims made are? Come on, man.

I'm indifferent to Tariq, but I'm curious as to why some of you dudes are so loyal to him. Being the typical "square ass pretentious intellect" (whatever the fuck that means) doesn't make someone the best resource on something. That's true. But not being that doesn't make you a good resource either. In what way has Tariq established himself to have a reputable amount of expertise on things he addresses? That's a serious question too. I'm not shitting on him. I honestly don't know and was curious.

You dare ask why Flex commands such loyality and devotion???

smh

See...youse a square ass nigga!

you don't have no game or recognize game playa!

This...this joint here....this is holy scriptures for young black macks looking to come up! I'm talkin' New Testament, Torah,Quran,Tripitakas all rolled in one!

Ahhhh I see. That would indeed make him an expert on the effect of the Moorish occupation on parts of Europe during the Middle Ages. You can't take over part of a continent without knowing how to mack hoes. Thanks for schooling me.

 

[a.mann]

No problem kid!

edit.

There's mack in you also....some where...deep within your square soul

Let Flex give you the GPS coordinates to guide it out....

 

[semi-auto-mato]

Rashidi is in Tariq's Hidden Colors series and I believe that he was strictly speaking to slave revolts in American history ....it would be interesting to hear him define what he considered a successful slave revolt however ...I can only assume that he meant success in the sense of liberating Black Americans in the regions were the revolts took place im honestly not 100 percent sure

yes he was and you remember him. like I said I hope Tariq leads you to find real historians like Rashidi. don't let hidden colors be the only time u watch a video with dude in it. he has a lot out there. you can start with Introduction To The Study Of African Classical Civilizations

 

[desertrain10]

This is some extraordinary sad shit here ....you literally have negros making click bait threads to demonize an individual out of some sort of irrational bizarre hatred

1.Nowhere in the video does he say what's implied in the thread title ...so we're already starting from a place of intellectual dishonesty

2.He literally preferences his statement by saying "I'm not talking about all black women I don't want y'all to think I'm dissing all sistas I'm certainly making a sweeping general statement for the purposes of speaking to a general audience" that's damn near less than 1 minute into the video and the statement that he used as a generalization was more about black women not snitching on white men that they are aligned with and he went back to slavery to give context to the origin of that psychology ..yet the TS still found it apt to create this corny ass thread lmao

3.He gives an actual reference to the kind of individual he was talking about ...which is the house slave who albeit was certainly still oppresed didn't have the same experience as the individuals in the field ..same dynamic brutha Malcom X articulated over 40 years ago yet for some reason the irrational hate for dude leads to people now calling that historical dynamic false? and there's outrage? And he's hostile towards women and possibly gay? Lol ...Yikes

Ultimately what it is with niggas like dude is he's not the square ass pretentious "intellect" that these people are used to receiving information from and to a lot of negros that startles them as they are uncomfortable dealing with a an individual with his kind of background because they're trained to scrutinize black men that aren't propped up by the mechanisms of white supremacy ...if you don't have validation from some white operated institution it makes you appear to be less authoritative in the eyes these kind of negros ....and that's all that this smear campaign shit is ....I certainly don't agree with Tariq on everything (such as his stance on voting) but this manufactured controversy...it's really sad seeing it play out TBH

And the video is from Tommy Sotomayor??? =) SAD

lol

the narrator of the video clearly suggests for "many blk women slavery was not too bad" because they were pampered benwenches...as if any slave had a choice in the matter ....but i digress

he then goes on to say for every harriet tubman there are thousand supa heads, carmen bryants

ultimately his premise being blk progress has been sabotaged by blk women because our loyalty laregly lies with white men

so yea the video was ignorant and highly irresponsible.....little he says in this video is based in fact/reality.... first, he disregards the fact most slave women worked along their male counterparts in the fields ...secondly, there was no mention of the systemic breeding of female slaves ....while sally heming, who was only 14,15 years old at the start of her sexual relationship with jefferson, was not working in the field , she like the other female slaves in her position lived far from a protected existence....and lastly, he disregards the fact blk women were the backbone of the abolitionist and civil rights movement ....

that said, the fact that he does preface his thesis, which is a sweeping geenralization, by admiting he is making a sweeping generalization makes his supporters look even more foolish

the very definition of a sweeping generalization is a statement which speaks in general terms without any reservation, so that it doesn't stand up to scrutiny

not to mention he has a long history of vilifying and sterotyping blk women