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when cain was told he had to wear the mark of the beast didnt it mention that it was so all the other people of the land would know what he did or something

who the fuck were those people LOL
 
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ThaChozenWun;1523374 said:
They had more Children, scripture only focus's on the main males though.

But why? Wouldn't you think that it would be important to get the story right? There's such a gap there it leaves you stuck, was there or wasn't there. I asked this to a pastor and he told me they had more children, in which incest took place. I asked how he knew, he said that there was a "lost scripture" that backed it up. So I said okay, so why can't other "lost scripture" be considered truthful then too? He had no answer.

So I guess only when it's convenient, shit can apply to the bible that isn't in the bible.
 
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VIBE86;1523390 said:
But why? Wouldn't you think that it would be important to get the story right? There's such a gap there it leaves you stuck, was there or wasn't there. I asked this to a pastor and he told me they had more children, in which incest took place. I asked how he knew, he said that there was a "lost scripture" that backed it up. So I said okay, so why can't other "lost scripture" be considered truthful then too? He had no answer.

So I guess only when it's convenient, shit can apply to the bible that isn't in the bible.

How else could you answer questions that could deny it's legitimacy?

Obviously you're not the religious leader against me you once were but even then you admit when you dug up answers for some of my questions the only answer at times would be to create a story that's not told in any religious text to accompany and lend support to it.

That's how I feel about the flood story, in the bible how it's told it can only seemingly be done with the assistance of a God. But a sea flooding and a guy surviving on a boat doesn't have to have that same aura around it, yet some will say no no the black sea flood is really it but god still helped him build a boat etc... My guess is that a good bit of people in New Orleans and the Gulf were inspired by God then as well considering some survived the flooding simply because they did the common sense thing and hopped into a floating boat when massive amounts of water were rising.
 
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VIBE86;1523338 said:
For those who like to take the Adam and Eve story literally.

These two had two sons, right? Cain and Abel. From there, where else did children come from? How did mankind continue to populate? There is no talk of a daughter after Cain and Abel, they already grew to women around. How so? Where's the gap?

Now i understand you stance, you rely on what others say, than actually read the book to show thyself approved...smh

Genesis 4:25

And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name SETH: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
 
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Israelites;1523614 said:
Now i understand you stance, you rely on what others say, than actually read the book to show thyself approved...smh

Genesis 4:25
And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name SETH: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

Still doesn't answer the questions about daughters. All dick and no pussy dont make babies bruh.
 
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Israelites;1523614 said:
Now i understand you stance, you rely on what others say, than actually read the book to show thyself approved...smh

Genesis 4:25
And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name SETH: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

Actually I did read the book and relied on what it said. I forgot all about Seth. BUT I mean they could have 20 more boys, where do the girls come in? Daughters? Sisters? We need woman to continue the population.
 
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Young-Ice;1523698 said:
smh @ believing the world was populated by only two beings. We wouldn't have survived this long to create this technology if we really have been inbreeding for this long. Not to mention that this doesn't explain how we have asians / blacks / jews / dominicans / whites etc.

You don't dwell much in this sub-forum but my stance isn't in a belief any more. I'm just asking questions. Trying to piece together things, get a better understanding.
 
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VIBE86;1523670 said:
Actually I did read the book and relied on what it said. I forgot all about Seth. BUT I mean they could have 20 more boys, where do the girls come in? Daughters? Sisters? We need woman to continue the population.

the Daughters spoken of in Genesis six came from Cain, after he was told to leave the land..the Sons of GOD IN GENESIS 6 is referring to the lineage of Seth, His sons took on the wives of Cains daughter.. At this point cain was removed from the lineage of Adam for killing abel...

Luke 3:37-38 (King James Version)

37Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,

38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Notice how they don't mention Cain (removed from the land) nor Abel (murdered)
 
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Young-Ice;1523771 said:
wtf...

he lived 900 years? really? im supposed to believe he lived 900 years?

Anything is possible with God, nothing he can't do.... go ahead try and argue, he can do whatever so nothing you can say has any weight....
 
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Young-Ice;1523736 said:
inbreeding causes retardation. lets say from adam and eve to now was 10,000 generations.

Only if the two people coming together had recessive genes. Check out the full article, its not to long.

So when a team of scientists led by Robin L. Bennett, a genetic counselor at the University of Washington and the president of the National Society of Genetic Counselors, announced that cousin marriages are not significantly riskier than any other marriage, it made the front page of The New York Times. The study, published in the Journal of Genetic Counseling last year, determined that children of first cousins face about a 2 to 3 percent higher risk of birth defects than the population at large. To put it another way, first-cousin marriages entail roughly the same increased risk of abnormality that a woman undertakes when she gives birth at 41 rather than at 30. Banning cousin marriages makes about as much sense, critics argue, as trying to ban childbearing by older women.

But the nature of cousin marriage is far more surprising than recent publicity has suggested. A closer look reveals that moderate inbreeding has always been the rule, not the exception, for humans. Inbreeding is also commonplace in the natural world, and contrary to our expectations, some biologists argue that this can be a very good thing. It depends in part on the degree of inbreeding

http://discovermagazine.com/2003/aug/featkiss
 
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BiblicalAtheist;1523825 said:
Only if the two people coming together had recessive genes. Check out the full article, its not to long.

So when a team of scientists led by Robin L. Bennett, a genetic counselor at the University of Washington and the president of the National Society of Genetic Counselors, announced that cousin marriages are not significantly riskier than any other marriage, it made the front page of The New York Times. The study, published in the Journal of Genetic Counseling last year, determined that children of first cousins face about a 2 to 3 percent higher risk of birth defects than the population at large. To put it another way, first-cousin marriages entail roughly the same increased risk of abnormality that a woman undertakes when she gives birth at 41 rather than at 30. Banning cousin marriages makes about as much sense, critics argue, as trying to ban childbearing by older women.

But the nature of cousin marriage is far more surprising than recent publicity has suggested. A closer look reveals that moderate inbreeding has always been the rule, not the exception, for humans. Inbreeding is also commonplace in the natural world, and contrary to our expectations, some biologists argue that this can be a very good thing. It depends in part on the degree of inbreeding

http://discovermagazine.com/2003/aug/featkiss

also if we look at the elite blood line families, they arrange for 1st & 3rd cousins to marry each other to keep their blood line pure & to keep the money in the family. Good read!
 
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Young-Ice;1523928 said:
but it says nothing of copulating with ones own sibling. If doing so with your 1st cousin can impose a slight risk, then the risk would increase in the former circumstance.

its speaking on cousins, Seth's sons got with Cain's daughter...making them cousins not siblings...
 
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Adam and Eve were not the first humans.

That story is a metaphor for the new ruler in the Earth under Adam.

The Bible even gives you a hint that this is the case.
 
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And Step;1524138 said:
Adam and Eve were not the first humans.

That story is a metaphor for the new ruler in the Earth under Adam.

The Bible even gives you a hint that this is the case.

I think i've seen you mention the above before, but still...first time i ever heard that.

Never seen that taught in the Bible. maybe shed some insight if you will.
 
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i think that by reading the bible one gets the impression that there were other people on earth...i don't know,,since GOD made Adam and Eve why are we limiting is ability to only make two. He may have been busy making more humans while he was away from the Garden of Eden (his special place on earth) and when he got back, he discovered that the devil fucked up his two special humans (his first creation).
 
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cane and abel turned around and beat eve pussy up

If you believe in the bible then you believe in incest and that we are all inbreds.
 
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Quarter2;1524594 said:
cane and abel turned around and beat eve pussy up

If you believe in the bible then you believe in incest and that we are all inbreds.

And its not even just that story. I mean it could be argued there were more humans I suppose, but what about after the flood? There was Noah and his wife, their sons and their wives. The rest of the planet was drowned. Yet was repopulated. And Lot, his daughters got him drunk and got down with him.
 
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