*Spinoff* Creationists And Theists... Time To Speak Your Clout

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there is no proof species change into other species. that weak ass fruit fly shit already beat to death in the other thread dont prove that. those experiments only prove that when evolution cant be proven in situations where it is erroneously predicted SCIENTISTS JUST CHANGE THE FUCKING DEFINITION OF EVOLUTION.

just stop. science and religion both give an illusion of explaining the unexplainable. the people that possess the knowledge of the unexplainable keep it hidden and give the masses bullshit explanations to keep them distracted and pliable. if religion proved God; muthafuckas would not be able to be controlled. if science disproved God; muthafuckas would not be able to be controlled. i personally give a shit less about either. neither has put a solution on the table to solve the unexplainable and exponential destruction unfolding before us in real time so what the fuck is the point?
 
VIBE;4714351 said:
Stay on topic bruh, this is about god and creation not evolution.

Simple answer off the top of the dome: The fact that the human body requires all of the minerals found in the earth tho have perfect health complemented by the Hebrew words "Adahm" ( as humanity) and "adamah" (earth) are obviously interelated concepts. The fact that we require oxygen and emit carbon dioxide as waste and trees do the opposite. The fact that we have approximately the same amount of water in our bodies as the water to earth ratio. The fact that the world is fucked up because of man destroying the creation by trying to alter and dominate it. The fact that the creation around us itself is IRREDUCABLY COMPLEX. One thing out of place and life would be vastly different or in most cases not exist at all.However a true understanding of the root text to the bible reveals that the bible does not even attempt to address the creation of the earth. It is written in psalms "the foundations of the earth are forever". The bible root text does not say the world was made in 6 24 hour intervals nor does it say dinosaurs did not exist, btw.

 
The irreducable complexity argument does not work. If we are to remove one part of a whole that would be vital to that whole's existence, the whole may fail to work properly now, but this may not hold true through out the whole's ancestry.
 
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judahxulu;4714507 said:
The fact that we require oxygen and emit carbon dioxide as waste and trees do the opposite. The fact that we have approximately the same amount of water in our bodies as the water to earth ratio. The fact that the world is fucked up because of man destroying the creation by trying to alter and dominate it.

This is not a strong argument either, because we don't know that these things are unlikely to happen. You have nothing to compare it against. You're assuming the laws of the universe, and nothing in the universe may be independent.
 
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judahxulu;4714507 said:
However a true understanding of the root text to the bible reveals that the bible does not even attempt to address the creation of the earth. It is written in psalms "the foundations of the earth are forever". The bible root text does not say the world was made in 6 24 hour intervals nor does it say dinosaurs did not exist, btw.

1. The Bible attempts to explain the creation of the earth and universe in Genesis

2. The writers of the Bible had no true knowledge of how the earth or universe was created

3. The writers of the Bible had no knowledge of dinosaurs to begin with

 
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Stupid Spinoff......

LOL...

Ole' let me start a new thread so we can turn the tables.....HEAD ASS NIGGA......

Creationists ~ 19

Anti-creationist ~ 0

I found out the origins of your RESEARCH SHOWS BLACKS TO HAVE LARGER BRAINS
http://www.biology-online.org/biology-forum/about11606.html
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2695640/replies?c=63

This shit has no author and was pulled from the bowels of another online forum.....

I think that Dr. Rushton is responsible for this research.....

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The True Flesh;4642876 said:
Blatant topic avoidance is making you look intimidated by THIS topic.

If you don't have anything to contribute to THIS THREAD.......go post in one of your gay Kemetic threads where you can make yourself look smart to those d*ckriding embiciles.

Is there anybody that will be able to adress THIS THREAD now that we have exposed the cowardly elusiveness this topic always brings out?

PEACE

bambu;4642773 said:
A lot of niggas that support creationism are not familiar enough with the theory to hold a conversation on it.....

Good luck.........
 
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LOL......

You are just looking to score a point where you could not in the other thread.....

Typical of atheists....

loosing the intelligent design argument and then turn to attacks on the creation stories of the people in the argument.....

Have you no shame????

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Jaded Righteousness;4714586 said:
judahxulu;4714507 said:
However a true understanding of the root text to the bible reveals that the bible does not even attempt to address the creation of the earth. It is written in psalms "the foundations of the earth are forever". The bible root text does not say the world was made in 6 24 hour intervals nor does it say dinosaurs did not exist, btw.

1. The Bible attempts to explain the creation of the earth and universe in Genesis

2. The writers of the Bible had no true knowledge of how the earth or universe was created

3. The writers of the Bible had no knowledge of dinosaurs to begin with

1.) the text it originates from does not attempt to explain the creation of the universe or the earth but some basic foundational knowledge of how it is run. I know what Genesis says and plenty scholars who can read the text will concur with what Im saying.

2.) not true. speculation. it apparently was not important enough for the writers to include and even more apparent is the fact that an explanation of how the earth and universe was created was not the intent of the text anyway, but rather a series of studies and declarations of principle on how to exist harmoniously within the created earth and universe. some of it is code on how to hack it but that conversation is not for the forum.

3) cant verify or deny but what i can say is there are reptoid species mentioned in the tanach and a couple are identified as being very large. since the hebrew roots of the names of them are (allegedly) obscure from proto-hebrew (official version..idk).

 
Jaded Righteousness;4714674 said:
bambu;4642915 said:
Told you homie.... this shit is like kryptonite to these niggas

You just wast to be able to say that there is no "evidence" for the various creation stories.......

However you have little to say about the "evidence" associated with the intelligence argument......

Which is why you slithered in her and made this bogus thread........

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Jaded Righteousness;4714559 said:
judahxulu;4714507 said:
The fact that we require oxygen and emit carbon dioxide as waste and trees do the opposite. The fact that we have approximately the same amount of water in our bodies as the water to earth ratio. The fact that the world is fucked up because of man destroying the creation by trying to alter and dominate it.

This is not a strong argument either, because we don't know that these things are unlikely to happen. You have nothing to compare it against. You're assuming the laws of the universe, and nothing in the universe may be independent.

so youre saying that the delicate and precise balances i described could unequivocally be nothing but the result of a cosmic accident? what are the odds of that?

 
judahxulu;4714727 said:
Jaded Righteousness;4714559 said:
judahxulu;4714507 said:
The fact that we require oxygen and emit carbon dioxide as waste and trees do the opposite. The fact that we have approximately the same amount of water in our bodies as the water to earth ratio. The fact that the world is fucked up because of man destroying the creation by trying to alter and dominate it.

This is not a strong argument either, because we don't know that these things are unlikely to happen. You have nothing to compare it against. You're assuming the laws of the universe, and nothing in the universe may be independent.

so youre saying that the delicate and precise balances i described could unequivocally be nothing but the result of a cosmic accident? what are the odds of that?

Again, you're assuming the laws of the universe. You're assuming that independent happenings exist.

 
First God made heaven & earth 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters. 3 And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. 4 And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day. 6 And God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." 7 And God made the firmament and separated the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day. 9 And God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good. 11 And God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, upon the earth." And it was so. 12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. 14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth." And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day. 20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the firmament of the heavens." 21 So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." 23 And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day. 24 And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds." And it was so. 25 And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the cattle according to their kinds, and everything that creeps upon the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth." 29 And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day. Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God finished his work which he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had done. 3 So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all his work which he had done in creation. 4 These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created. In the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5 when no plant of the field was yet in the earth and no herb of the field had yet sprung up--for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground-- 7 then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.
 
1. Genesis clearly attempts to explain the origin of the universe. Even if you accept it as "basic" knowledge, the basics are wrong. Genesis says that Earth was created before Heaven (I'm assuming heaven in this particular instance is referring to space, and not the abode of angels), even before light was created which not only goes against scientific knowledge, but against your own; I believe you claim that light is the foundation of all creation. Correct me if I'm wrong.

2. God created day and night before the sun. smh.. And the Bible specifically says what it means by "day"; Evening and morning passed, that was one day. We can't interpret this as a "period" any longer than an actual day

3. God goes on to create, clearly for our purpose, lights in space, which I'll take as stars and such.. Besides the fact that most stars are invisible to the naked eye, we know that the earth was not created before stars were formed.

4. An omnipotent being "rests" on the seventh day, because 6 days of work was so tiring

5. Why did God decide to have a mist come up from the ground to water the plants instead of causing rain?
 
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thats not what it say in hebrew. if you want to discuss it for real i suggest you reference the strongs concordance and a book called The Hebraic Tongue Restored/Cosmogyny of Moses ( mostly packaged as last chapter) in which there is an interlinear examination of what the text actually says. i cant argue for the bible mistranslation however. so unless we are speaking on the grounds of what the source text says i cant even have this discussion. were not talking about the same thing.

 
Jaded Righteousness;4714765 said:
judahxulu;4714727 said:
Jaded Righteousness;4714559 said:
judahxulu;4714507 said:
The fact that we require oxygen and emit carbon dioxide as waste and trees do the opposite. The fact that we have approximately the same amount of water in our bodies as the water to earth ratio. The fact that the world is fucked up because of man destroying the creation by trying to alter and dominate it.

This is not a strong argument either, because we don't know that these things are unlikely to happen. You have nothing to compare it against. You're assuming the laws of the universe, and nothing in the universe may be independent.

so youre saying that the delicate and precise balances i described could unequivocally be nothing but the result of a cosmic accident? what are the odds of that?

Again, you're assuming the laws of the universe. You're assuming that independent happenings exist.

Thats not an answer to what I specifically asked.

 
Jaded Righteousness said:
Longtime posters know Righteousness......New jacks will get an introduction.

You have fish, birds, reptiles, amphibians, mammals, and arthropods.......all of which come from a common ancestor and originated through evolution..this is acceptable because we have the evidence........but you'd rather believe in fairy tales

Peace, love, and soul (but not the eternal kind)

Are you referring to the evidence that is being properly deconstructed in the other thread that you ran away from?????

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