So Some Black Women Are Mad K. Dot's Dating A Light Skin

[StillFaggyAF]

Fact, we live in a society that worships anything white or close to it

The darker you are the less attractive and the less intellectual u are

Subsequently being light skinned became the standard of beauty for many blacks and Latinos

Kdot himself even acknowledged himself that the world needs reminding the black beauty comes in all shades

That's reason why he went out his way to recast the lead for the "Poetic Justice" video ... Choosing a darker skinned model over the fairer skinned girl that had previously been cast by the director

So while ol girls anger is obviously misdirected, she is one of the people kendricks casting decision was meant to reach

But obviously one video alone can't reverse the narrative or undo the racism she has internalized

@desertrain10

Imo, your view is the most insightful on this topic, you're a black, dark skinned female. You can go in layers i cant.

what is your indepth analysis on this whole topic ?

Whats your take on Kendrick marrying a lighter complexion girl?

And what's your take in dark blk men n lighter women in general?

Do u agree/ disagree with the activist?

What's your analysis of her from watching the video below?

First I gotta say Kendrick or anyone can date who they want ... I have no problem with it, well as long as that person isn't downing anyone in the process

And I could be wrong but just from watching the video she seems like she's just trying to stir up some controversy for youtube hits

At the end of the day that doesn't make colorism any less real

And while I haven't experienced any negativity first hand, as a kid I seen how my darker skinned friends especially the females were teased about their skin color and how it lead them to having a poor self image

In highschool and beyond teasing wasn't so much a problem ... But one couldn't help but notice the guys gravitating more towards lighter skinned girls

Actually for some blk guys I know with dating lighter skinned girls both blk and white was a not only a preference but a step up

Not to mention you have blk entertainers and rappers declaring that they dont date dark girls while simultaneously parading around a bunch of racially ambiguous girls

Than when turning to the media, theres always limited or no depictions of beautiful dark skinned women further perpetuating this narrative that dark skin is unattractive

I can def see how it can a persons appearance can be a source of self doubt, pain

And just from peeping how my niece avoids the sun in the summer

I feel it's worth discussing the relationship between preference, self esteem, and the role popular/culture media has played in disseminating the ideal of light skin globally

like who?

lil wayne who has sold millions of records and is arguably one the most popular blk entertainers the last 5, 10 years

Not only that

It seems like every other song a rapper is voicing his affinity for red and yellow bones

i knew you'd say lil wayne. but besides him, what entertainers and rappers have openly declared they don't date black girls??

There's another one talking about no dark butts. Yung Berg.

so we got Lil Wayne and Yung Chainsnatched who else???

 

[desertrain10]

Fact, we live in a society that worships anything white or close to it

The darker you are the less attractive and the less intellectual u are

Subsequently being light skinned became the standard of beauty for many blacks and Latinos

Kdot himself even acknowledged himself that the world needs reminding the black beauty comes in all shades

That's reason why he went out his way to recast the lead for the "Poetic Justice" video ... Choosing a darker skinned model over the fairer skinned girl that had previously been cast by the director

So while ol girls anger is obviously misdirected, she is one of the people kendricks casting decision was meant to reach

But obviously one video alone can't reverse the narrative or undo the racism she has internalized

@desertrain10

Imo, your view is the most insightful on this topic, you're a black, dark skinned female. You can go in layers i cant.

what is your indepth analysis on this whole topic ?

Whats your take on Kendrick marrying a lighter complexion girl?

And what's your take in dark blk men n lighter women in general?

Do u agree/ disagree with the activist?

What's your analysis of her from watching the video below?

First I gotta say Kendrick or anyone can date who they want ... I have no problem with it, well as long as that person isn't downing anyone in the process

And I could be wrong but just from watching the video she seems like she's just trying to stir up some controversy for youtube hits

At the end of the day that doesn't make colorism any less real

And while I haven't experienced any negativity first hand, as a kid I seen how my darker skinned friends especially the females were teased about their skin color and how it lead them to having a poor self image

In highschool and beyond teasing wasn't so much a problem ... But one couldn't help but notice the guys gravitating more towards lighter skinned girls

Actually for some blk guys I know with dating lighter skinned girls both blk and white was a not only a preference but a step up

Not to mention you have blk entertainers and rappers declaring that they dont date dark girls while simultaneously parading around a bunch of racially ambiguous girls

Than when turning to the media, theres always limited or no depictions of beautiful dark skinned women further perpetuating this narrative that dark skin is unattractive

I can def see how it can a persons appearance can be a source of self doubt, pain

And just from peeping how my niece avoids the sun in the summer

I feel it's worth discussing the relationship between preference, self esteem, and the role popular/culture media has played in disseminating the ideal of light skin globally

I know u said some guys u know, see it as a step up, but

As u got older, is the dark skin light skin thing more prevelant, or less relevant amongst guys u know in your personal life?

as an adult, Do majority of the guys u know are still color struct, or have they evolved past that?

ANd what steps do u think can be done to help darker skin women/ girls in this society?

I dunno

I think it's just has gone from overt to subtle

And just getting older my circle has changed a lot

Most the guys I socialize with now date a variety of diff shades and colors of women

Growing up some of the kids who would tease darker skinned people I assume grew and evolved with time

But I'm sure some haven't

My cus, for ex, who is the most color struck dude I've ever met has moved on to dating white women exclusively

And bruh just sees it as being innocent

The most important thing I think we can do for blk kids is check our own biases and push for more balance in how black beauty and intelligence is portrayed

 

[blackrain]

Black men like light skinned women because black men like light skinned women.

You people really think that the minds of black men are so weak that we can be manipulated into preferring light skin In 2015. Foh.

Liking ass ( for instance ) and liking lighter skin aren't the same thing, at all.

There're generations of genetics to back up why males can't resist a female's physique and features. But consistently liking lighter women just because they're light. Nah, there's no defense for that.

Media is as powerful now as it has ever been. Niggas are no more liberated from ( White ) Media's influence simply because it's 2015. It's a nice thought, but sadly isn't the case..

The only thing with this though is nobody would ever give anyone flack for saying they don't date light skin women and they only prefer dark skin women...and it's still a rejection of a group of black women no matter how you slice it.

This is a hypothetical, and you know it.

Where have you seen this happen in real life? Fucking nowhere.

And if you have seen it, it hasn't happened nearly as much as niggas out here proclaiming their love for bright/light skins.

Stop.

As is your hypothetical that every dude who finds a light skin girl attractive does so because he been brainwashed into believing it. Majority of black men like attractive women period regardless of skin tone. What you don't seem to understand is that one group doesn't have to be put down in order to make another feel better. Its wonderful to say dark skin women are beautiful. They should hear it daily...but women who aren't dark shouldn't carry around some guilt for being light skin. A lot of this shit comes from women's own personal insecurities about themselves they'd carry no matter how many women they see who look like them.

 

[Like Water]

As a light-skinned brother, I've always had a preference for brown skinned, or chocolate chicks. I don't know if it was an innate way to balance it out or what. I just know that I like what I like.

However, my wife is like a shade or two browner than me. Does that make me a hypocrite because my ol' lady can be classified as a "red bone"? Am I able to be a part of the cause, or do I hafta sit this one out because I wasn't so stupid as to let an awesome woman get by me since she wasn't dark skinned?

I love my people, but some of you niggas suck.

 

[BEAM]

As is your hypothetical that every dude who finds a light skin girl attractive does so because he been brainwashed into believing it.

When did I say "every?" I didn't. I've been saying "most" and "a lot of"..

Majority of black men like attractive women period regardless of skin tone.

Yes, but many of our peers are more attracted to brighter/lighter skinned women, which can be attributed to conditioning via the Media, not happenstance..

What you don't seem to understand is that one group doesn't have to be put down in order to make another feel better. Its wonderful to say dark skin women are beautiful. They should hear it daily...but women who aren't dark shouldn't carry around some guilt for being light skin.

I don't "not seem to understand" anything because I never even remotely suggested that brighter/lighter women should be put down in favor of browner/darker women, nor did I say that lightbrights ( which I happen to be, btw ) should feel guilty for being fairer skinned..

I literally never, not once said or suggested any of the things you've been attempting argue with me about; Which I've noticed has been happening a lot between us lately..

I'm not sure what your problem with me is, but you need to work on your reading comprehension, off top. I'm not going to keep defending / re-explaining myself because of your growing tendency to put words in my mouth..

 

[BEAM]

Yes it does, u dont get it. Its not about attention , its about them having low self esteem.

as an individual, everybody is not gonna find u attractive. That's life. But if you r self confident n fly, it won't matter to u.

like the Zora Neale quote power phrased ,"o fucking well" ...thats confidence .

If blk women want to combat colorism, theyre gonna have to have confidence.

If u don't believe in ya self. U have no confidence. If u have no no self confidence. u lack self trust. U lack self trust, u lack self love. If u lack self love, u'll end up like the activist bitch in the video; angry, bitter, broken confused, and lonely.

Please dark skin ladies, dont end up like the bitch in the vid. Get u some self confidence. N love ya self.

Okay I'm sorry, but you're either incredibly dense, or you're trolling.

What you're not seeming to realize is that most of the browner/darker skinned femmes ( many of whom speak out against Colorism in far classier, more productive and presentable ways than this singular shorty you've taken such issue with ) who get still get looked over aren't being sidescrolled due to a lack of confidence or self love; And conversely, the lightbrights aren't getting chose because they exude illuminating auras or positivity and self worth.

Brighter/lighter women are getting chose because they're bright/light.

Browner/darker women are getting overlooked because they're browner/darker.

White media, and those so gullible, perpetuate this phenomenon, called Colorism.

It doesn't have anything to do with self love / hate, or this one, single shorty. You're trying to wipe an entire issue off the table because you don't like how it was presented by one person.. That's not how this works, fam.

If anything, I'll give you props for at least not necessarily being part of the problem. This entire concept is completely foreign to you. lol

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

By her logic Huey Newtons woman is a coon for being with a light skin man. Malcolm Xs women is a coon for being with a light skin man. These.bitches just have too much time on their hands to have fake outrage.

Imo its not about having time.

I mean that if we cannot deciphering mental wounds we will never get through these problems.

We must learn to see what is LATENT at the place of dwelling in what is manifest.

That woman, as a millions of darkskin women all over the world who has a tv a computer, a smartphone, and happen to live in a western culture environment, is constantly attacked by the media. Not by a direct attack, but a subliminal one : not being in the LANDSCAPE. We live in a visual society where standards are set by the industries for political and economical purposes.

These darkskin women feel not attractive cause they have very little to no mediatic representatives. Its hard for them to swallow that. It hurt them deeply. For decades they are waiting for that mediatic hero to ' deliver them'.

But males are vitims of the media too. And most of the time they will pick up what its deemed beautifull by the standards.

Jim Crow won cause the time may come where these dark skin women will bleach in mass just cause they are tired of this situation. Unless :

Black people start to invest in creating a big and diverse Black media , not BET.

We stop buying our young girls WEAVES and start championing their NATURAL TRAITS and hair

Making that FAIR SKIN words a VERBAL OUTRAGE such as the word NIGGER.

Shuting down any light skin vs dark skin division attempt

ESTABLISHING A THIRD RACE , THE MIXED PEOPLE RACE. once again they are not black nor white, arab , asian, they are MIXED, MULLATOS.

 

[Dr.Chemix]

A lot of limp wrist dudes in here.

Tell them dark skin broads to love themselves and stop worrying about what everyone else thinks or loves.

Tell them dark skin women that black men is tired of hearing you fuss and moan about everything.

Tell them dark skin women who always post up statuses talking about they got haters but they are going to "do them" regardless should do that at all times.

Tell them dark skin women to fix their attitudes.

Tell them the only one doing the attacking is themselves, always ready to lynch some light skin.

The majority of my brothers have dated all the color spectrum but we don't hear a word from you until that light skin chick comes into play. Then the demon comes outta ya.

I know you won't do it because the dark skin versus light skin was always a thing since the time of moses (and even then dark skins hated light skins) but just shut up already and find your own happiness. Seriously.

 

[Ajackson17]

Not everyone can just use the "conscious" title. She doesnt seem very conscious, conscious people are generally alot less aggressive because they understand how the "energy" they put out positively or negatively affects the world around them. She's one of these new types who claim understanding but is really just as ideological as a fox news host. Faux enlightenment is tacky af

C.s

Knowing is half the battle. Ppl like her, have the knowledge... But they're not using It.. U have to apply that knowledge to your personal internal self, and allow It to manifest...

Ppl like her intake info, but they aint soul cleansing. They still got past hurts ... They wanna fix every body but themselves...

Black men like light skinned women because black men like light skinned women.

You people really think that the minds of black men are so weak that we can be manipulated into preferring light skin In 2015. Foh.

Dr. Umar Johnson - Propaganda and the Carnage to Come !:

 

[BEAM]

.. bullshyt ..

I guess I shouldn't expect you of all people to be an intellectual at this point, I know you're a dumbaas.. But telling brown/dark skinned women to "just shut up and find your own happiness" is part of the problem. It enables Colorism, which is a form of discrimination.. One that stems from racism, at that..

Nobody's not even telling dudes that they have to like what they supposedly "don't like." But to act as if most niggas just happen to prefer brighter/lighter women just because is not only wrong, but it creates a divide in our Communities.

Niggas tryna blame the shyt on self confidence / self love issues. Nah, none of this has anything to do with that; Because niggas aint tryna drink lightbright bytches bath water "because she confident and she love herself."

Niggas chase after brighter/lighter skinned women Because they're brighter/lighter; Which coincides with White Supremacy in this country. That's not preference, that's conditioning..

Niggas need to stop.

 

[blackrain]

@BEAM I don't have a comprehension problem you just seem to have a problem when somebody doesn't share your same opinion. Even saying most is an over estimate simply because you don't know most people and to claim to know why they do what they do is prententous on your part all in an effort to be right. Nobody is denying the issue of Colorism its just you also cannot deny other factors that influence the way women view themselves in general. These self esteem issues would still exist even if colorism was eliminated and that's what you don't seem to want to admit.

Society does a good job at making ALL women feel inadequate in some way. Light skin women aren't immune to it. You think they don't grow up with a complex about themselves because people will be quick to tell them they aren't black enough? Its the same shit in revers3. One group is too black the other ain't black enough. Take away the race angle and society still got a million ways to make black women feel shitty. Too tall, short hair, not curvy enough you too skinny and get told you got a body like a white woman, too curvy and now you called fat,...etc. To deny the tons of other ways society shits on the self esteem of women is disingenuous on your part solely to try and make your own point.

 

[Dr.Chemix]

.. bullshyt ..

I guess I shouldn't expect you of all people to be an intellectual at this point, I know you're a dumbaas.. But telling brown/dark skinned women to "just shut up and find your own happiness" is part of the problem. It enables Colorism, which is a form of discrimination.. One that stems from racism, at that..

Nobody's not even telling dudes that they have to like what they supposedly "don't like." But to act as if most niggas just happen to prefer brighter/lighter women just because is not only wrong, but it creates a divide in our Communities.

Niggas tryna blame the shyt on self confidence / self love issues. Nah, none of this has anything to do with that; Because niggas aint tryna drink lightbright bytches bath water "because she confident and she love herself."

Niggas chase after brighter/lighter skinned women Because they're brighter/lighter; Which coincides with White Supremacy in this country. That's not preference, that's conditioning..

Niggas need to stop.

Nigga, you talk a lot of hot gas out ya mouth and you don't say shit. And this is 90 percent of the time. You talk more than a female.

Who is reading that long diatribe? You just another limp wrist dude thinking he smarter than what he is. But I don't waste my time talking to a fool. I don't want their stupidity affecting me.

 

[onthafly]

Black men like light skinned women because black men like light skinned women.

You people really think that the minds of black men are so weak that we can be manipulated into preferring light skin In 2015. Foh.

Look up the Clark Doll test. Black people in America are being manipulated into preferring light skin the moment they come into this world.

 

[zombie]

Black men like light skinned women because black men like light skinned women.

You people really think that the minds of black men are so weak that we can be manipulated into preferring light skin In 2015. Foh.

Look up the Clark Doll test. Black people in America are being manipulated into preferring light skin the moment they come into this world.

I know about the doll test.

But as adult men the media should not have that kind of hold on you

 

[BEAM]

.. I don't have a comprehension problem you just seem to have a problem when somebody doesn't share your same opinion ..

No, I don't have a problem when people have different opinions, I'm just not shy about challenging things I disagree with;

Especially if people's opinions have collective effects on entire communities.

.. Nobody is denying the issue of Colorism its just you also cannot deny other factors that influence the way women view themselves in general. These self esteem issues would still exist even if colorism was eliminated and that's what you don't seem to want to admit ..

All people have self esteem issues; That's unavoidable. But we can point to why many people have specific self image issues, with ( White ) media being an enormous culprit in the matter.

So no, browner/darker skinned women aren't innately aggressive towards brighter/lighter skinned women and the obvious preferential treatment they get; And this preferential treatment isn't something that just happens either. You're trying to make speaking out against Colorism about having low self esteem, as if it's browner/darker women's fault for even bringing it up. Blaming the victim, basically, so niggas can just "like what they like," as if there aren't deeper, long standing reasons for why things are the way they are; Especially as it concerns complexion in this country..

.. To deny the tons of other ways society shits on the self esteem of women is disingenuous on your part solely to try and make your own point ..

I haven't denied anything. I've been talking about the issue at hand, Colorism.

It seems that your issue with me isn't rooted in this discourse, but rather in my firm stances against all the ignorant niggas in here tryna deflect because they think this Community dividing issue is solely about them and whom they choose to get a nut off with. It's not that simple, and you're in your feelings because I'm not a fuck nigga on some enabling Kumbaya, "Live and let Live" bullshyt.

.. Nigga, you talk a lot of hot gas out ya mouth and you don't say shit. And this is 90 percent of the time. You talk more than a female.

Who is reading that long diatribe? You just another limp wrist dude thinking he smarter than what he is. But I don't waste my time talking to a fool. I don't want their stupidity affecting me ..

I'm arguing at a point, and unfortunately most of the time I have to repeat myself because either don't or can't read.

And how is this about me thinking I'm "smarter than what I am?" You're just mad I called you an idiot because you're echoing a lot of the other nonsense that niggas have tried to kick in here. You didn't have a point, and now you don't have a response, other than tryna compare me to a female ( for arguing a point ) and saying "limp wrist" ( for no reason other than the fact that your feelings are hurt and hurling insults is all you can do while trying to save face over the Internet ) because you damn sure can't argue a point..

 

[BEAM]

I know about the doll test.

But as adult men the media should not have that kind of hold on you

But it does.

 

[zombie]

I know about the doll test.

But as adult men the media should not have that kind of hold on you

But it does.

According to you, because it sure as hell has to effect on me.

 

[Kakarot]

I think someone here just replied to me that dark skinned women should not have to look good like kelly rowland or nia long to get attention. So they shouldn't make an effort become attractive.

While I'm here waking up every morning, shaving, working out.

 

[onthafly]

Fact, we live in a society that worships anything white or close to it

The darker you are the less attractive and the less intellectual u are

Subsequently being light skinned became the standard of beauty for many blacks and Latinos

Kdot himself even acknowledged himself that the world needs reminding the black beauty comes in all shades

That's reason why he went out his way to recast the lead for the "Poetic Justice" video ... Choosing a darker skinned model over the fairer skinned girl that had previously been cast by the director

So while ol girls anger is obviously misdirected, she is one of the people kendricks casting decision was meant to reach

But obviously one video alone can't reverse the narrative or undo the racism she has internalized

@desertrain10

Imo, your view is the most insightful on this topic, you're a black, dark skinned female. You can go in layers i cant.

what is your indepth analysis on this whole topic ?

Whats your take on Kendrick marrying a lighter complexion girl?

And what's your take in dark blk men n lighter women in general?

Do u agree/ disagree with the activist?

What's your analysis of her from watching the video below?

First I gotta say Kendrick or anyone can date who they want ... I have no problem with it, well as long as that person isn't downing anyone in the process

And I could be wrong but just from watching the video she seems like she's just trying to stir up some controversy for youtube hits

At the end of the day that doesn't make colorism any less real

And while I haven't experienced any negativity first hand, as a kid I seen how my darker skinned friends especially the females were teased about their skin color and how it lead them to having a poor self image

In highschool and beyond teasing wasn't so much a problem ... But one couldn't help but notice the guys gravitating more towards lighter skinned girls

Actually for some blk guys I know with dating lighter skinned girls both blk and white was a not only a preference but a step up

Not to mention you have blk entertainers and rappers declaring that they dont date dark girls while simultaneously parading around a bunch of racially ambiguous girls

Than when turning to the media, theres always limited or no depictions of beautiful dark skinned women further perpetuating this narrative that dark skin is unattractive

I can def see how it can a persons appearance can be a source of self doubt, pain

And just from peeping how my niece avoids the sun in the summer

I feel it's worth discussing the relationship between preference, self esteem, and the role popular/culture media has played in disseminating the ideal of light skin globally

like who?

lil wayne who has sold millions of records and is arguably one the most popular blk entertainers the last 5, 10 years

Not only that

It seems like every other song a rapper is voicing his affinity for red and yellow bones

i knew you'd say lil wayne. but besides him, what entertainers and rappers have openly declared they don't date black girls??

Young Berg said he doesn't like Dark Butts referring to dark skinned women.

 

[BEAM]

According to you, because it sure as hell has to effect on me.

Me either, but we live in a big world, not your little bubble.

Just because it isn't affecting you or I, doesn't mean it's not a problem.