So Some Black Women Are Mad K. Dot's Dating A Light Skin

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BEAM;7943565 said:
@blakfyahking

You're in denial.

Not only that, but you're asking for unnecessary evidence that's unobtainable in the form you're requesting it, all while outright while denying the preferential treatment brighter/lighter women get.

And while Mass Media may not be able to change a nigga's sexual orientation, but it sure has warped what about their sexual preference they're attracted to. Case and point ~ COLORISM, because niggas aren't just happening to prefer brighter/lighter women, just because. Largely it's due to influence, not preference..

The only division I've spoken on is that which is promoted by Colorism. Beyond that, you're misinterpreting something that's resulting in an incorrect accusation. I'm saying that browner/darker women should be heralded and showcased in the same ways that brighter/lighter women are; But first, we've got to recognize and do away with why that's not already happening..

You know what, let's just agree to disagree, because frankly, you're don't seem to have a firm grasp on this issue at all.

I could say the same to you as well.....because without some kind of tangible evidence, what are we talking about beside someone's biased feelings?

cause the only preferences that would apply would be the ones offered by white folks

but since this is a thread about a black man supposedly checking for a light skin black woman, I don't see how a discussion of white-proffered benefits are relevant at all

bottom line is the discussion should be why do our dark skin sisters feel so insecure vs. why brothers are allegedly only checking for light skin sisters........your argument of a black man's preference for yellabones just simply doesn't exist

yet you choose to just parrot what white media has trained you to think/say

never in my life had I ever heard a nigga be with a dark skin sister and lament that she wasn't redboned enough

now I'm bout to go google Briana Bette and bask in her chocolate glory hah
 
What about the dark skin women who prefer light skin niggas with green eyes? Chuck makes it clear she prefers light skin men but I dont get mad and cause a fuss about it. I know alot of darksin women that prefer light skin niggas. So are they perpetuating colorism?
 
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PapaDoc223;7943730 said:
What about the dark skin women who prefer light skin niggas with green eyes? Chuck makes it clear she prefers light skin men but I dont get mand and cause a fuzz. I know alot of darksin women that prefer light skin niggas. So are they perpetuating colorism?

Exactly .. Dark skin niggas aint crying colorism.

We just get fly; physically, mentally, spirtually n we keep it pushing.

Whether women find us attractive r not.We, like us.

thats why eventually, the bitches come flocking... That's life.

We not shooting videos and calling ,insert random black female celebrity, with light/white boy friends , a wrench.

I never seen Serena Willams n Rhianna with a dark skinned brotha, but Im still finna hit both in the future ya dig

That's self love, n confidence nigga.

There's no excuse for how that brawd acted, in her tweets n video.

Especially towards a nigga like Kendrick. one of the few rappers who go out his way , to show dark skin sistas love.

Thats ass backward, crab in a barrell shit.

That bitch a goofy looking cornball for that.

N what the fuck is a dark skin activists???

aint that creating division?

Whats next? a light skin activist?

Or a, I aint that light but i aint that dark, activist?

That bitch is poisonous.

fuck that bitch, n her greasy ass 4head
 
K. Dot's girl is probably the one who gave him the idea for the album.

She's probably extremely pro-black and conscious. But idiots would rather look at the surface, oh she's light.
 
Yall see the different shades of black? These people are in the dirt because they were black, didn't matter if they were light skinned or dark skinned. I agree that colorism exists but the one true enemy doesn't give a fuck who you wanna fuck, they just want you dead. Colorism was created by the white man because he knew what it would do within the black community. Divide and conquer is an age old tactic. Remember these faces and let's go to war with the real enemy. This dark skinned versus light skinned shit gotta stop.

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LPast;7942848 said:
I'm not sure what the argument right now but it's a fact that people judge light skinned women on a curve due to their complexion.

I see it in real life, TV, and illpix.

At least part of the problem is the messenger. If an attractive dark woman said the stuff it might be taken more seriously. But often times, the chicks complaining wouldn't be attractive no matter what their shade is yet they always pin all their problems on that.
 
D0wn;7943863 said:
PapaDoc223;7943730 said:
What about the dark skin women who prefer light skin niggas with green eyes? Chuck makes it clear she prefers light skin men but I dont get mand and cause a fuzz. I know alot of darksin women that prefer light skin niggas. So are they perpetuating colorism?

Exactly .. Dark skin niggas aint crying colorism.

We just get fly; physically, mentally, spirtually n we keep it pushing.

Whether women find us attractive r not.We, like us.

thats why eventually, the bitches come flocking... That's life.

We not shooting videos and calling ,insert random black female celebrity, with light/white boy friends , a wrench.

I never seen Serena Willams n Rhianna with a dark skinned brotha, but Im still finna hit both in the future ya dig

That's self love, n confidence nigga.

You're making it seem as the though dark girls are the only ones with the problem

And that they fell into a ditch, the majority of ppl managed to avoid

Nah bruh

This is about more than just a few hurt feelings and goes beyond the plight of dark skinned girls

Studies have shown that ppl of diff races subconsciously associate lighter skin tones with positive characteristics and darker skin with negative sterotypes

Could explain why darker skinned female inmates receive harsher sentencing than their lighter skinned counterparts

Or why employers favor lighter skinned men over darker skinned men

Surveys have also shown that blk ppl who described themselves as being light skinned projected higher incomes, greater years of education and also aspired to more prestigious jobs versus their darker skinned counterparts

My point being the solution to colorism isn't as easy as advising dark women to just man up

Ignoring the issue obviously won't help either

 
AggyAF;7943117 said:
housemouse;7942251 said:
AggyAF;7941186 said:
desertrain10;7941087 said:
AggyAF;7941037 said:
desertrain10;7940983 said:
D0wn;7940723 said:
desertrain10;7940577 said:
Fact, we live in a society that worships anything white or close to it

The darker you are the less attractive and the less intellectual u are

Subsequently being light skinned became the standard of beauty for many blacks and Latinos

Kdot himself even acknowledged himself that the world needs reminding the black beauty comes in all shades

That's reason why he went out his way to recast the lead for the "Poetic Justice" video ... Choosing a darker skinned model over the fairer skinned girl that had previously been cast by the director

So while ol girls anger is obviously misdirected, she is one of the people kendricks casting decision was meant to reach

But obviously one video alone can't reverse the narrative or undo the racism she has internalized

@desertrain10

Imo, your view is the most insightful on this topic, you're a black, dark skinned female. You can go in layers i cant.

what is your indepth analysis on this whole topic ?

Whats your take on Kendrick marrying a lighter complexion girl?

And what's your take in dark blk men n lighter women in general?

Do u agree/ disagree with the activist?

What's your analysis of her from watching the video below?


First I gotta say Kendrick or anyone can date who they want ... I have no problem with it, well as long as that person isn't downing anyone in the process

And I could be wrong but just from watching the video she seems like she's just trying to stir up some controversy for youtube hits

At the end of the day that doesn't make colorism any less real

And while I haven't experienced any negativity first hand, as a kid I seen how my darker skinned friends especially the females were teased about their skin color and how it lead them to having a poor self image

In highschool and beyond teasing wasn't so much a problem ... But one couldn't help but notice the guys gravitating more towards lighter skinned girls

Actually for some blk guys I know with dating lighter skinned girls both blk and white was a not only a preference but a step up

Not to mention you have blk entertainers and rappers declaring that they dont date dark girls while simultaneously parading around a bunch of racially ambiguous girls

Than when turning to the media, theres always limited or no depictions of beautiful dark skinned women further perpetuating this narrative that dark skin is unattractive

I can def see how it can a persons appearance can be a source of self doubt, pain

And just from peeping how my niece avoids the sun in the summer

I feel it's worth discussing the relationship between preference, self esteem, and the role popular/culture media has played in disseminating the ideal of light skin globally


like who?


lil wayne who has sold millions of records and is arguably one the most popular blk entertainers the last 5, 10 years

Not only that

It seems like every other song a rapper is voicing his affinity for red and yellow bones


i knew you'd say lil wayne. but besides him, what entertainers and rappers have openly declared they don't date black girls??


Young Berg said he doesn't like Dark Butts referring to dark skinned women.


So black women look up to Lil Wayne and Young Berg as male role models? Do you understand how dumb that argument sounds ?


I never said anything about black women looking up to them. You asked for an example of rappers/entertainers saying they preferred light skinned women as if nobody has ever said that and then you were given examples. You then proceeded to shoot down the examples provided by me and other people. I don't even remember or care what the initial conversation was about. Just answering your question.
 
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blakfyahking;7943589 said:
I could say the same to you as well.....because without some kind of tangible evidence, what are we talking about beside someone's biased feelings?

cause the only preferences that would apply would be the ones offered by white folks

but since this is a thread about a black man supposedly checking for a light skin black woman, I don't see how a discussion of white-proffered benefits are relevant at all

bottom line is the discussion should be why do our dark skin sisters feel so insecure vs. why brothers are allegedly only checking for light skin sisters........your argument of a black man's preference for yellabones just simply doesn't exist

yet you choose to just parrot what white media has trained you to think/say

never in my life had I ever heard a nigga be with a dark skin sister and lament that she wasn't redboned enough

now I'm bout to go google Briana Bette and bask in her chocolate glory hah

The effects that White Mass Media's promoting of this "Whiter/Lighter = Righter" mentality, just one of those being niggas gravitating towards brighter/lighter women, is the evidence. You're asking for evidence for the evidence..

Our browner/darker skinned women aren't "insecure," they're aware of the effects Colorism is having in our relationships and our communities; But you're trying to act as if none of this is happening, because you're ignoring the clear, visible evidence..

And I'm not parroting anything. White Mass Media isn't telling us that we prefer brighter/lighter women, it's putting brighter/lighter women on a pedestal, portraying them as more beautiful, more graceful, more intelligent, more desirable, etc, which has brainwashed a lot of men to look at brighter/lighter women as such. It's rather simple, actually..

Again, you're not seeing this issue clearly.

But Briana Bette is a bad bytch, so at least you're not part of the problem. ^_^
 
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My 2 cents: anyone that subscribe's to the media's promotion of anything is a fucking idiot! You don't HAVE to be brainwashed and defending this bullshit for 11 pages is stupid. Quit making excuses for people that are ignorant by volition.
 
chiyosuke;7945058 said:
My 2 cents: anyone that subscribe's to the media's promotion of anything is a fucking idiot! You don't HAVE to be brainwashed and defending this bullshit for 11 pages is stupid. Quit making excuses for people that are ignorant by volition.

If there's one thing that life and my job has taught me it's that the masses are ignorant.
 
desertrain10;7944463 said:
D0wn;7943863 said:
PapaDoc223;7943730 said:
What about the dark skin women who prefer light skin niggas with green eyes? Chuck makes it clear she prefers light skin men but I dont get mand and cause a fuzz. I know alot of darksin women that prefer light skin niggas. So are they perpetuating colorism?

Exactly .. Dark skin niggas aint crying colorism.

We just get fly; physically, mentally, spirtually n we keep it pushing.

Whether women find us attractive r not.We, like us.

thats why eventually, the bitches come flocking... That's life.

We not shooting videos and calling ,insert random black female celebrity, with light/white boy friends , a wrench.

I never seen Serena Willams n Rhianna with a dark skinned brotha, but Im still finna hit both in the future ya dig

That's self love, n confidence nigga.

You're making it seem as the though dark girls are the only ones with the problem

And that they fell into a ditch, the majority of ppl managed to avoid

Nah bruh

This is about more than just a few hurt feelings and goes beyond the plight of dark skinned girls

Studies have shown that ppl of diff races subconsciously associate lighter skin tones with positive characteristics and darker skin with negative sterotypes

Could explain why darker skinned female inmates receive harsher sentencing than their lighter skinned counterparts

Or why employers favor lighter skinned men over darker skinned men

Surveys have also shown that blk ppl who described themselves as being light skinned projected higher incomes, greater years of education and also aspired to more prestigious jobs versus their darker skinned counterparts

My point being the solution to colorism isn't as easy as advising dark women to just man up

Ignoring the issue obviously won't help either

after all thats said, what u think darkskinned Ppl should do????

A discussion would b great.

But in the mean time, while talking, what should we do?

My thing is, whether there's a discussion r not. we got to keep it pushing.

Like Wale say, Gabos. Game aint based on sympathy.

Feeling Sorry for our selves wont accomplish shIt.

Everybody is not gonna find u attractive. Thats life . If a job is

frontin on u, cause u dark. o well on to the next one. Shit dont stop.

If u have confidence = self love, then u r not gonna trip if person x dont find u attractive. Or if ya employers rather

have a lighter employee. Just keep doing ya thing.Just keep pushing

5.u can't control how ppl feel about U

But , u can control how u feel about your self.

Love your skin, love yourself .enjoy yourself .u only got one life to live .don't let the world take your your joy.

Them steps i listed will have ppl fighting through the odds. Thats why Us black ppl are still here. After all the shit we been through

Light, dark, mediUM. we're fighters, n we been fighting. N we gon continue fighting. Its time we get some wins Tho.

fuck the world if they cant adjust, ima still do my thing.
 
D0wn;7946462 said:
desertrain10;7944463 said:
D0wn;7943863 said:
PapaDoc223;7943730 said:
What about the dark skin women who prefer light skin niggas with green eyes? Chuck makes it clear she prefers light skin men but I dont get mand and cause a fuzz. I know alot of darksin women that prefer light skin niggas. So are they perpetuating colorism?

Exactly .. Dark skin niggas aint crying colorism.

We just get fly; physically, mentally, spirtually n we keep it pushing.

Whether women find us attractive r not.We, like us.

thats why eventually, the bitches come flocking... That's life.

We not shooting videos and calling ,insert random black female celebrity, with light/white boy friends , a wrench.

I never seen Serena Willams n Rhianna with a dark skinned brotha, but Im still finna hit both in the future ya dig

That's self love, n confidence nigga.

You're making it seem as the though dark girls are the only ones with the problem

And that they fell into a ditch, the majority of ppl managed to avoid

Nah bruh

This is about more than just a few hurt feelings and goes beyond the plight of dark skinned girls

Studies have shown that ppl of diff races subconsciously associate lighter skin tones with positive characteristics and darker skin with negative sterotypes

Could explain why darker skinned female inmates receive harsher sentencing than their lighter skinned counterparts

Or why employers favor lighter skinned men over darker skinned men

Surveys have also shown that blk ppl who described themselves as being light skinned projected higher incomes, greater years of education and also aspired to more prestigious jobs versus their darker skinned counterparts

My point being the solution to colorism isn't as easy as advising dark women to just man up

Ignoring the issue obviously won't help either

after all thats said, what u think darkskinned Ppl should do????

A discussion would b great.

But in the mean time, while talking, what should we do?

My thing is, whether there's a discussion r not. we got to keep it pushing.

Like Wale say, Gabos. Game aint based on sympathy.

Feeling Sorry for our selves wont accomplish shIt.

Everybody is not gonna find u attractive. Thats life . If a job is

frontin on u, cause u dark. o well on to the next one. Shit dont stop.

If u have confidence = self love, then u r not gonna trip if person x dont find u attractive. Or if ya employers rather

have a lighter employee. Just keep doing ya thing.Just keep pushing

5.u can't control how ppl feel about U

But , u can control how u feel about your self.

Love your skin, love yourself .enjoy yourself .u only got one life to live .don't let the world take your your joy.

Them steps i listed will have ppl fighting through the odds. Thats why Us black ppl are still here. After all the shit we been through

Light, dark, mediUM. we're fighters, n we been fighting. N we gon continue fighting. Its time we get some wins Tho.

fuck the world if they cant adjust, ima still do my thing.

Meh...

 
chiyosuke;7945058 said:
My 2 cents: anyone that subscribe's to the media's promotion of anything is a fucking idiot! You don't HAVE to be brainwashed and defending this bullshit for 11 pages is stupid. Quit making excuses for people that are ignorant by volition.

housemouse;7946415 said:
chiyosuke;7945058 said:
My 2 cents: anyone that subscribe's to the media's promotion of anything is a fucking idiot! You don't HAVE to be brainwashed and defending this bullshit for 11 pages is stupid. Quit making excuses for people that are ignorant by volition.

If there's one thing that life and my job has taught me it's that the masses are ignorant.

You don't have to be "ignorant" to be influenced by the media ...you niggas are forgetting that you weren't born into this world as the vigilant aware and observant gentleman that I'm sure you are today ....at One point ..you Were a YOUNG naive ...impressionable ...child ...and The things that are subconsciously or overtly introduced to you at that age often don't erase themselves unless you make a concerted effort to do so ...or unless you grew up around people who could counteract certain negative messages
 
JDSTAYWITIT.;7946932 said:
chiyosuke;7945058 said:
My 2 cents: anyone that subscribe's to the media's promotion of anything is a fucking idiot! You don't HAVE to be brainwashed and defending this bullshit for 11 pages is stupid. Quit making excuses for people that are ignorant by volition.

housemouse;7946415 said:
chiyosuke;7945058 said:
My 2 cents: anyone that subscribe's to the media's promotion of anything is a fucking idiot! You don't HAVE to be brainwashed and defending this bullshit for 11 pages is stupid. Quit making excuses for people that are ignorant by volition.

If there's one thing that life and my job has taught me it's that the masses are ignorant.

You don't have to be "ignorant" to be influenced by the media ...you niggas are forgetting that you weren't born into this world as the vigilant aware and observant gentleman that I'm sure you are today ....at One point ..you Were a YOUNG naive ...impressionable ...child ...and The things that are subconsciously or overtly introduced to you at that age often don't erase themselves unless you make a concerted effort to do so ...or unless you grew up around people who could counteract certain negative messages

Cosign. No one is born conscious or with a high level of awareness. We're all manipulated or hypnotized in some way. Whether it comes from seeing lighter people shown more or promoted in the media or seeing religious deities in the image of the dominant people. Some still have to wake up. Also just because a person is intelligent, that does not necessarily mean they are more conscious or aware. Some of the smartest people are also sleep.
 

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