Sixteen year old in St Pete killed a cop

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sboogie;2128998 said:
what you call "rules" is really the discretion of human beings with biases...

funny how people just accept certain things as set in cement when they are not...

people with agendas control this shit not some all powerful "rule book"...

*criminal justice major post*

just because you disagree with something doesn't mean you're not subjected to it....

kinda like... u don't have to be afraid of a bully to get your ass whooped by him....

saying "that's wrong" isn't going to make ur sentence any shorter
 
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sboogie;2128998 said:
what you call "rules" is really the discretion of human beings with biases...
funny how people just accept certain things as set in cement when they are not...
people with agendas control this shit not some all powerful "rule book"...
*criminal justice major post*

would your opinion change if it was your relative or close friend or child that was killed ?
 
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mssouthernthang;2127767 said:
At 16 you are old enough to know right from wrong that is why he's being charged as an adult

If he was in Texas

he'd get the death penalty

That may be true but why do they arbitrarily try some 16 year olds as adults and not others? I agree with sboogie, if a 16 year old can, in any circumstances, be tried as an adult then they should also have full adult privileges.

The sole justification for prison should be rehabilitation/crime prevention, not punishment, if for no other reason than the fact that free will is so obviously an illusion. Our behavior is determined by genetic and environmental factors, nobody 'chooses' to kill, steal, rape etc. The death penalty should be abolished and I don't think life sentences should be mandatory either.

In the future, maybe neurosurgery can 'correct' the aggressive and anti-social impulses that we have and there will be no need for prison at all.
 
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sboogie;2129682 said:
you missed my point...

you used the word "rule", when in reality judges and prosecutors have discretion...

which gets tested cuz they see hundreds of these shits a month....at some point it becomes routine
 
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Lol, 2011 must be the year of L's for cops. theyre colliding with the pavement, and their blood is spilling in the streets left and right
 
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Huruma;2129730 said:
That may be true but why do they arbitrarily try some 16 year olds as adults and not others? I agree with sboogie, if a 16 year old can, in any circumstances, be tried as an adult then they should also have full adult privileges.

The sole justification for prison should be rehabilitation/crime prevention, not punishment, if for no other reason than the fact that free will is so obviously an illusion. Our behavior is determined by genetic and environmental factors, nobody 'chooses' to kill, steal, rape etc. The death penalty should be abolished and I don't think life sentences should be mandatory either.

In the future, maybe neurosurgery can 'correct' the aggressive and anti-social impulses that we have and there will be no need for prison at all.

Yeah, until you take someone's life. He probably would've been charged as a minor for any other crime, but there ain't no coming back from murder. He knew what he was doing therefore he shouldn't ever get out.
 
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while i understand darx points of the shit not being balanced and fair.. the reality still remains that those are the rules that are in place for those actions...

you can't willingly play a game, and bitch about the rules afterwards.....
HIm going to jail is a separate issue. Nobody has a problem with that I dont think.

The problem is we have yet to hear an argument from these buffoons as to why he can be tried/convicted and jailed as an adult yet he can not have the same rights. And yes they are the rules. Now why are you content with inconsistant rules? Especially since they arent applied evenly among the masses? If he killed another black kid nobody would give a fuck. If he was white we wouldnt give a fuck.

NIggas is in here acting like I asked them to do a quadratic equation while riding a unicycle on a string of floss while being attacked by a fucking swarm of angry hornets ya know?

If black kids are adults fine. Let them little niggas vote then.
Shiiiet, that lil' nigga wanted to make a grown man decision, he gotta do grown man time.
Amen...

Now can he have a grown man marriage, grown man voting rights, and grown man housing and grown man alcohol? After-all, he old enough to know right from wrong correct?

If not how is that not hypocritical?
 
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that's the whole thing though....well atleast with my understanding...

once you subject yourself to a certain lifestyle....you subject yourself to the consequences of it...

i can't tell you how many times i heard niggaz flat out give the reason

"they ain't playing fair out here"

as a reason to go straight when it came to doing illegal shit....

these kids out here needa see shit like this happen if you ask me....they needa know that while they may not have any of the priviliges of an adult.. you take a life you'll damn sure be charged as one.....

shit may not seem fair on paper... but that doesn't make it any less of a reality...
 
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dusouljah;2130728 said:
that's the whole thing though....well atleast with my understanding...

once you subject yourself to a certain lifestyle....you subject yourself to the consequences of it...

.

Thats all that needs to be said.. if you cheat at the game.. dont be mad that you gettin bad cards...
 
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dusouljah;2130728 said:
that's the whole thing though....well atleast with my understanding...

once you subject yourself to a certain lifestyle....you subject yourself to the consequences of it...

i can't tell you how many times i heard niggaz flat out give the reason

"they ain't playing fair out here"

as a reason to go straight when it came to doing illegal shit....

these kids out here needa see shit like this happen if you ask me....they needa know that while they may not have any of the priviliges of an adult.. you take a life you'll damn sure be charged as one.....

shit may not seem fair on paper... but that doesn't make it any less of a reality...
So u can at least admit its hypocritical? But you just dont care?

At least you honest. These other monkeys out here fumbling over words and shit like idiots.

However, that attitude is why shit like this continues to happen.

"Oh well that's how it is,"
is why its so hard to achieve anything in this country.
 
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Dude actually made the news because earlier this month like 3 cops and a police dog got killed down here by a guy they was servin a warrant to...
 
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Its always good news when a cop dies.
 
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The justice system is biased / discriminatory. All men are not created equal nor do they get treated equal. It's not about what's fair but what works best for the majority. I mean there is very little change in the mentality of a 17 year old and an 18 year old but lines have to be drawn even though the system hopes back and forth when it's convenient.
 
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