Since Kanye and Em were the two rappers who dominated this past decade...

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I have a feeling J. Cole's going to overlooked in the grand scheme if he doesn't do something to stir up a buzz. But whoever dominates this next decade, we probably never heard of him. 50 Cent, Kanye, Drake, Nicki Minaj, Nelly, etc. dominated the decade in which they were introduced. I say just sit back and see watch for new faces.
 
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Its hard to say right now. Drake has a chance but I just hope his music dont suffer in the process. I wanna say Lupe but that is wishful thinking because he wont get that kind of love.
 
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I don't think Drake will be a fad, he'll be around but I'll await judging his over all "dominance factor" until he drops the album and see how the label works it.

J.Cole is definitely dope however as far as moving units goes he'll need a hit to knock out the park or he's looking at Lupe Fiasco Status (which isn't a bad thing at all imo)

who I'd REALLLLLYYYYY like to see blow up is Jay Electronica, dude's got a nice buzz right now however his overalll vibe and demeaner is so anti-mainstream he wouldn't conform (which again isnt a bad thing) to the bullshit, but he DOES NOT deserve to go the way of Saigon, Papoose, ect..
 
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lady gaga because the world is fuckin gay right now
 
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Man I hope is J Cole, if he blows up like Kanye did then it will be a good thing for Hip Hop, dude got mad talent compared to Drake. I anit hating but from a older hip hop head I gotta go with J Cole over Drake any day in the week, Drake is for the younger generation of hip hop listeners.
 
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I just wanna say that Em aint dominate shit in the 2000's, not to say he didn't have a run but it was short, he peaked in 2002 then released a wack album in 2004 then took a 5 year break and released a half ass album.
 
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jamacia;62850 said:
I just wanna say that Em aint dominate shit in the 2000's, not to say he didn't have a run but it was short, he peaked in 2002 then released a wack album in 2004 then took a 5 year break and released a half ass album.

He had to Diamond plaques, broke the record for highest selling Album ever in a week with 1.7 million, repeated it again by selling a million in the first week on his 3rd Album

Made 8 Mile which made millions in profit and won an Oscar for it

Lose Yourself broke the record for being number one on the Chart for the longest and the 8 Mile Soundtrack sold over 3 Million in America

Won countless Grammy Awards

Made Hit's that reached number 10 on the CHart at the very least

Made 2 classic Album's in the 2000's with The Marshall Mathers LP being one of the greatest Album's in history and The Eminem Show another classic

Had countless sell out Anger Managment Tour's worldwide

Became the highest selling Hip-Hop Artist ever and one of the highest selling Musicians ever period

Signed 50 Cent who released a Diamond selling Album on Shady Records

Produced for the likes of Jay Z, Nas, T.I., Lloyd Banks, Redman etc as well as the Artists on his label as well as Producing countless HIt's like Smack That for Akon
 
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Em was the highest selling artist of the decade.

That in itself is dominance.
 
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Drake will pop for a minute because of the female fanbase and then they will eventually abandon him like they did (LL, Fabolous, Ja Rule, 50,etc). His style just ain't diverse enough to me (same flow and delivery) to have longevity in the game.

J Cole - I don't know, it depends on how he market himself; hopefully he doesn't put himself in that Mos Def and Talib Kweli box. If he just does a variety of hiphop he has a chance because he has a machine behind him, look how much promo Roc Nation did for Wale and Melanie Fiona; the only difference is Interscope fucked over Wale.
 
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jamacia;62850 said:
I just wanna say that Em aint dominate shit in the 2000's, not to say he didn't have a run but it was short, he peaked in 2002 then released a wack album in 2004 then took a 5 year break and released a half ass album.

Well said, Jamaica. The lame hasnt't been able to make a hot album since 2002.

Eminem's corny ass shit only dominates the suburbs.
 
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ShadyTeam;62872 said:


He had to Diamond plaques, broke the record for highest selling Album ever in a week with 1.7 million, repeated it again by selling a million in the first week on his 3rd Album

Made 8 Mile which made millions in profit and won an Oscar for it

Lose Yourself broke the record for being number one on the Chart for the longest and the 8 Mile Soundtrack sold over 3 Million in America

Won countless Grammy Awards

Made Hit's that reached number 10 on the CHart at the very least

Made 2 classic Album's in the 2000's with The Marshall Mathers LP being one of the greatest Album's in history and The Eminem Show another classic

Had countless sell out Anger Managment Tour's worldwide

Became the highest selling Hip-Hop Artist ever and one of the highest selling Musicians ever period

Signed 50 Cent who released a Diamond selling Album on Shady Records

Produced for the likes of Jay Z, Nas, T.I., Lloyd Banks, Redman etc as well as the Artists on his label as well as Producing countless HIt's like Smack That for Akon

Bullshit

Why are all these these mtv watching niggas making post where is my basement niggas at

Dude what ever magazine you reading throw that shit in the trash can

Em is a hype in both ways you can think of and P.E told us not to "believe the hype"

Since this is "The Reason"

Use some of that (reasoning) in your thought process. for all Em's yalling fans

he had one good album in the last decade

You Can not count a soudtrack as his work.

As for the movie it's sits right between state property and save the last dance. I can't believe he almost got an Oscar hype!!!!

Paid in full yall dick riders might want rent that.real talk.

And He gave 50 his deal then fell off.

Much in the same way Dre did. And all em beats sound the same. And he need his ass whip for fucking up that 2PAC CD........ I GOT TO GO BUT......TO BE CONTINUE.
 
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To say Eminem didn't dominate last decade in terms of Hip Hop is ludicrous. Was he the most dominant? No, but he did dominate. Him putting out wack albums is a matter of opinion. It holds the same amount of weight as an over zealous fan saying Eminem was flawless last decade.

As far as this decade, I think the Young Money crew will have a nice run starting w/ Drake and Nicki Minaj.
 
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i would like to see b.o.b make it i think hes nice and got some talent and cory gunz if he can learn how to make a song
 
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georgia boi;64814 said:
To say Eminem didn't dominate last decade in terms of Hip Hop is ludicrous. Was he the most dominant? No, but he did dominate. Him putting out wack albums is a matter of opinion. It holds the same amount of weight as an over zealous fan saying Eminem was flawless last decade.

Agreed. Don't even bother answering their posts; like little children, they'll eventually tire themselves out.
 
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I think a huge part of em's sucess is that he sold music to white mainstream america. Its like elvis with rock and roll/blues.Black people were singing the blues jazz and making the outlines for what now is rock and roll for years yet all white mainstream america was obsessed with elvis just because he was white. The muddy waters and bb kings and robert johnsons arent even known by us young black people (and i only knew who they were when i started playing guitar last year) but we all know who elvis is. The same thing goes for eminiem. White people dont know who KRS One is or Mos Def is or Gang Starr is but they know who eminiem is therefore they buy his stuff and the white pop top 40 buy more albums then the hood does. Em's being white hurt him when he first started out but as soon as he came to fame it helped him allot more. There are lyrical black rappers just as good/better than em but they dont get the sales cause the white pop top 40 crowd isnt attracted to them.
 
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Monizzle;65441 said:
I think a huge part of em's sucess is that he sold music to white mainstream america. Its like elvis with rock and roll/blues.Black people were singing the blues jazz and making the outlines for what now is rock and roll for years yet all white mainstream america was obsessed with elvis just because he was white. The muddy waters and bb kings and robert johnsons arent even known by us young black people (and i only knew who they were when i started playing guitar last year) but we all know who elvis is. The same thing goes for eminiem. White people dont know who KRS One is or Mos Def is or Gang Starr is but they know who eminiem is therefore they buy his stuff and the white pop top 40 buy more albums then the hood does. Em's being white hurt him when he first started out but as soon as he came to fame it helped him allot more. There are lyrical black rappers just as good/better than em but they dont get the sales cause the white pop top 40 crowd isnt attracted to them.

Any artist who records American music is essentially selling music to a white mainstream audience because they are the majority. Eminem is far from an Elvis type. Eminem didn't "steal." Sure like other artists he was influenced by a lot of other artists, but he didn't take somebody's style and run with it. Elvis jacked Jackie Wilson's whole style (look included) and passed it off as his own.

Believe it or not, but artists like Mos Def probably have a larger white following than Black following. As for KRS-One and Gangstarr, they weren't THAT huge even in their primes. Even Black audiences are more familiar w/ the Rakim's, LL's, Big Daddy Kane's etc. than they are KRS. Groups like Mobb Deep, M.O.P., A Tribe Called Quest, and maybe even De La Soul are more familiar amongst Black artists than Gangstarr.

The reason Em still sold despite other Black rappers being better and more lyrical is not because of color, a lot of them just aren't good songwriters. Nas (to a lesser extent) and Jay Z move units and they are lyrical and have had some considerable amount of mainstream success that appealed to a pop top 40 crowd. Nas has had albums go double platinum and had songs like "I Can" chart in the 20 of the Billboard Hot 100 despite it's content. Jay Z is one of the most successful rappers ever.
 
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The problem i have with Eminem fans is a majority of them look down on rap and black rappers but give Eminem a pass. They stereotype black rappers as materialistic and violent then look at what he does as normal.Alot of them will buy his cd and no other rapper.
 
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usmarin3;65758 said:
The problem i have with Eminem fans is a majority of them look down on rap and black rappers but give Eminem a pass. They stereotype black rappers as materialistic and violent then look at what he does as normal.Alot of them will buy his cd and no other rapper.

I agree with this. I couldn't even respect a fan like that. Initially, some media treated Eminem as if he were somehow more of an acceptable artist than Black rappers. It was like his violence was artistic while when Black artists did it, they labeled it senseless. It's partially the reason why I didn't bother getting into Em's music until around the 8 Mile/Eminem Show because I figured Eminem was a fad that was being force fed to the masses. I liked a few of his songs before Eminem Show/8 Mile, but not enough to check his albums. He proved me wrong in that he showed that he had staying power and that he could come out with songs outside of his usual element.
 
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Monizzle;65441 said:
I think a huge part of em's sucess is that he sold music to white mainstream america. Its like elvis with rock and roll/blues.Black people were singing the blues jazz and making the outlines for what now is rock and roll for years yet all white mainstream america was obsessed with elvis just because he was white. The muddy waters and bb kings and robert johnsons arent even known by us young black people (and i only knew who they were when i started playing guitar last year) but we all know who elvis is. The same thing goes for eminiem. White people dont know who KRS One is or Mos Def is or Gang Starr is but they know who eminiem is therefore they buy his stuff and the white pop top 40 buy more albums then the hood does. Em's being white hurt him when he first started out but as soon as he came to fame it helped him allot more. There are lyrical black rappers just as good/better than em but they dont get the sales cause the white pop top 40 crowd isnt attracted to them.

If this were the case, Asher Roth would've went diamond multiple times over. The man makes clear mainstream music with tracks like 'I Love College", but you don't see him selling millions.

Most of Em's music is actually pretty far from mainstream. It's either about him overdosing on drugs or killing people with chainsaws.
 
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Ja Rule sold a lot of records too between 2000-2002 and I wouldn't say he dominated either, if we are talking about dominating a decade I would think you would have to have dominated more than 2 years in that decade. Eminem peaked in 2002 and by the time he dropped Encore in 2004 he was already done, as his appeal had worn off by that time, then he took a 5 year break and returned in 2009 and dropped a weak album. To me dominating is more than just sales its the overall package and Em lacked it. The only artist's in my opinion that dominated the 2000's were Kanye and Jay, as they sold and were actually relevant throughout most of the decade.
 
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