Sigmund Freud Theorized that Moses was a Pharaoh

[anthony7q]

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More excerpts-----MOSES AN EGYPTIAN 13

On the other hand the suggestion has long been

made and by many different people that the name

Moses derives from the Egyptian vocabulary.

Instead of citing all the authors who have voiced

this opinion I shall quote a passage from a recent

work by Breasted, 1 an author whose History of

Egypt is regarded as authoritative. "It is

important to notice that his name, Moses, was

Egyptian. It is simply the Egyptian word ' mose '

meaning * child/ and is an abridgement of a

fuller form of such names as ' Amen -mose '

meaning c Amon-a-child 5 or ' Ptah-mose, 5 mean-

ing c Ptah -a -child, 5 these forms themselves being

likewise abbreviations for the complete form

* Amon-(has-given)-a child 5 or Ptah -(has -given) -

a -child. 5 The abbreviation ' child 5 early became

a convenient rapid form for the cumbrous full

name, and the name Mose, c child, 5 is not un-

common on the Egyptian monuments. The father

of Moses without doubt prefixed to his son 5 s name

that of an Egyptian god like Amon or Ptah, and

this divine name was gradually lost in current

usage, till the boy was called ' Mose. 5 (The final

s is an addition drawn from the Greek translation

of the Old Testament. It is riot in the Hebrew,

which has ' mosheh 5 ). 55 I have given this

passage literally and am by no means prepared

to share the responsibility for its details. I am

a little surprised, however, that Breasted in

1 The Dawn of Conscience, London, 1934, p. 350.

Let us return to the two families in the myth.

As we know, on the level of analytic interpreta-

tion they are identical. On a mythical level they

are distinguished as the noble and the humble

family. With an historical person to whom the

myth has become attached there is, however, a

third level, that of reality. One of the families is

the real one, the one into which the great man

was really born and in which he was brought up.

The other is fictitious, invented by the myth in

pursuance of its own motives. As a rule the real

family corresponds with the humble one, the

noble family with the fictitious one. In the case

of Moses something seemed to be different. And

here the new point of view may perhaps bring

some illumination. It is that the first family,

the one from which the babe is exposed to danger,

is in all comparable cases the fictitious one; the

second family, however, by which the hero is

adopted and in which he grows up is his real one.

If we have the courage to accept this statement

as a general truth to which the Moses legend also

is subject, then we suddenly see our way clear.

Moses is an Egyptian probably of noble origin

whom the myth undertakes to transform into a

Jew. And that would be our conclusion!

 

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[anthony7q]

Thus E. Meyer in Die Mosessagen und die Leviten, Berliner

Sitzber. 1905: " The name Mose is probably the name Pinchas in

the priest dynasty of Silo . . . without a doubt Egyptian. This

does not prove however that these dynasties were of Egyptian

origin, but it proves that they had relations with Egypt." (p. 651 .)

One may well ask what kind of relations one is to imagine.

A strange fact in the history of the Egyptian

religion, which was recognized and appraised

relatively late, opens up another point of view.

It is still possible that the religion Moses gave to

his Jewish people was yet his own, an Egyptian

religion though not the Egyptian one.

In the glorious Eighteenth Dynasty, when

Egypt became for the first time a world power,

a young Pharaoh ascended the throne about

1 375 B.C., who first called himself Amenhotep (IV)

like his father, but later on changed his name

and not only his name. This king undertook

IF MOSES WAS AN EGYPTIAN 35

to force upon his subjects a new religion, one

contrary to their ancient traditions and to all

their familiar habitsXIt was a strict monotheisn*,

the first attempt of its kind in the history of the

world as far as we know and religious intoler-

ance, which was foreign to antiquity before this

and for long after, was inevitably born with the

belief in one God. But Amenhotep's reign lasted

only for seventeen years; very soon after his

death in 1358 the new religion was swept away

and the memory of the heretic king proscribed.

From the ruins of his new capital which he had

built and dedicated to his God, and from the

inscriptions in the rock tombs belonging to it, we

derive the little knowledge we possess of him.

Everything we can learn about this remarkable,

indeed unique, person is worthy of the greatest

interest. 1

 

[anthony7q]

this is too long to read. nobody likes reading over the comp

Sigmund Freud believed that Moses from the bible was an Egyptian King (also known as Pharaoh) and not a Hebrew/Jew.

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

i read that book

its been debunked

freud didn't know much about history

or psychology, for that matter

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

freud didn't know much about history

or psychology, for that matter

So they stopped teaching Freud in psych courses?

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

So they stopped teaching Freud in psych courses?

they started teaching that he was wrong about pretty much everything

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

they started teaching that he was wrong about pretty much everything

Do they have anyone else they use to represent the foundation of psychotherapy?

 

[DarcSkies]

Do they have anyone else they use to represent the foundation of psychotherapy?

Cavemen are the foundation of the wheel. But you wouldnt want one designing one that fits your car though.

Freud has pretty much been hailed for starting the process but...most of his theories are only taught to show that they are wrong.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Cavemen are the foundation of the wheel. But you wouldnt want one designing one that fits your car though.

Freud has pretty much been hailed for starting the process but...most of his theories are only taught to show that they are wrong.

So who do they credit for the correct theories? Or is it just anonymous discoveries that are now taught?

 

[bless the child]

LMAO at Sigmund Freud getting sonned in here.

 

[judahxulu]

i read that book

its been debunked

freud didn't know much about history

or psychology, for that matter

Jung >>> Freud

Freud knew how to manipulate people pretty well though. Watch "Century of the Self"

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Jung >>> Freud

Freud knew how to manipulate people pretty well though. Watch "Century of the Self"

To be fair it was more his nephew, Edward Bernays, who brought his ideas to America and used it manipulate people.

 

[Jay Pee]

Freud exposed.....the mainstream still follows him still wake up docile people.

 

[Alkindus]

This is very plausibel, I have posted this shit before but for those that are familair with african cultures/civilisations know that dozens of (modern day) cultures are directly connected to 'ancient egypt' (langueges/traditions etc). anno 2010 the biggest berber culture in africa( the 'amazigh' which means 'free people') called themselves that way after the first berber farao came to power and freed them(this happened 3000 years ago)

So in other words their are millions of people that have been calling themselves 'the free people' that mostly live east of egypt/outside egypt for 3000 years. The farao that freed the people lived a very similair life to that of moses(which was written down CENTURIES later, the story of moses was not written 3200/3000 years ago)

So.....we all know that egypt/babylon civilisations had huge influence on the abrahamic faiths. there is no historical/archeological evidence of an exodus/moses etc but we do have masses and living proof of millions and millions of people that once lived in egypt, still use their own karakters/alphabet/customs etc but were freed by a farao and anno 2010 (or allmost the year 3000 by their calender) the biggest berber tribe in all of africa

 

[anthony7q]

Egyptian Tomb in Israel Volume 50 Number 1, January/February 1997

by Andrew Kasdan

This passage tomb dating to ca. 3000 B.C. discovered at Tel Halif in Israel's Negev Desert is similar to early Egyptian tombs. (Photo by Z. Radovan, courtesy of T.E. Levy) [LARGER IMAGE, 52K]

The discovery of an Egyptian-style tomb at Tel Halif in the Negev Desert suggests an Egyptian colonial presence in southern Israel ca. 3000 B.C. Most burials in the region are in caves or shaft tombs attributed to the Canaanites, but this one, built during the Early Bronze 1B period (3300-3000 B.C.), is typical of contemporary tombs in Egypt, according to excavators Thomas Levy of the University of California, San Diego, and David Alon of the Joe Alon Regional Research Center in Israel. A 30-foot-long passageway descends to the burial chamber, which is about 26 feet long, 16 feet wide, and nine and one-half feet high. Within the dome-shaped chamber is a plastered stone platform on which the skeleton of a woman was found. About 25 years old when she died, she was found in a fetal position facing east, characteristic of Egyptian burials.

That an Egyptian was buried at Tel Halif "gives us evidence of a full-blown Egyptian colony in Israel right after the crystallization of the first Egyptian state," says Levy. "Egyptians were known to have very profound and elaborate belief systems about the afterlife and what was required to get there. One of these requirements was to die and be properly entombed on Egyptian soil. I think it's very likely that this part of southern Israel was considered part of greater Egypt during this period."Egyptian ceramics, seal impressions, and bread molds found at Tel Halif support an Egyptian occupation. Among these artifacts is a potsherd engraved with the serekh, or sign, of King Narmer, who is believed to have united Upper and Lower Egypt between 3050 and 3000 B.C.