Should kids be allowed to see their fathers in prison on father's day?

[HafBayked]

It should be an option.....could be good or bad depending on the situation but it should be up to the parents

 

[bambu]

Niggas should have though about their kids before getting locked up.....

i mean what if they're just limited in their ways of making money?

a lot of people turn to crime, because that's all they know....in their minds they truly believe they're doing it for their kids....

some people just have an err in judgement....someone could hurt my child and i could lose it and hurt them in return, and then find myself in jail...

now i'm not saying that all jailed inmates are there for a noble cause, but when a person flat out says no....they are saying something along those lines....

there has to be an exception that you can agree with

What is a visitation gonna do.....

A man has to have a presence in the household....

Me coming to see you and putting money on your books ain't gonna show me how to be a man....

I know the system is fucked. ....

However, everybody got choices... ...

I used to dabble with a lifestyle that could land me in jail, but changed direction in large part because of my children. ....

 

[blackrain]

This country - ESPECIALLY the justice system - is really god at breaking up families. Especially black families. Let them babies visit their father so they can try maintain the relationship. Last things you want is a nigga getting out after a decade and not having his kids as a part of his support system and not having a real reason to not go back because his kids don't fuck with him.

How about simply not wanting to be in prison is reason enough to not go back

 

[Dupac]

Niggas should have though about their kids before getting locked up.....

i mean what if they're just limited in their ways of making money?

a lot of people turn to crime, because that's all they know....in their minds they truly believe they're doing it for their kids....

some people just have an err in judgement....someone could hurt my child and i could lose it and hurt them in return, and then find myself in jail...

now i'm not saying that all jailed inmates are there for a noble cause, but when a person flat out says no....they are saying something along those lines....

there has to be an exception that you can agree with

What is a visitation gonna do.....

A man has to have a presence in the household....

Me coming to see you and putting money on your books ain't gonna show me how to be a man....

I know the system is fucked. ....

However, everybody got choices... ...

I used to dabble with a lifestyle that could land me in jail, but changed direction in large part because of my children. ....

same here, and i have no intentions of being in prison for anything....however i'm black in america, and sometimes that alone is a reason

 

[mryounggun]

This country - ESPECIALLY the justice system - is really god at breaking up families. Especially black families. Let them babies visit their father so they can try maintain the relationship. Last things you want is a nigga getting out after a decade and not having his kids as a part of his support system and not having a real reason to not go back because his kids don't fuck with him.

How about simply not wanting to be in prison is reason enough to not go back

In theory that makes sense. Unfortunately we don't live in the theoretical world.

Niggas should have though about their kids before getting locked up.....

And this is the mentality that fucks everything up. SMH.

Fucks everything up? ???

Yes. Next question.

 

[kzzl]

There's only one reason to deny visits and thats for the sake of prison being a place where youre denied everything. Other than that, theres no real reason. And if they do get denied visits, mothers shouldn't be able to see there kids either.

 

[CashmoneyDux]

The fact that this is a discussion is the real problem.

 

[Shizlansky]

I've been in county and I would not want my son to come see me locked up.

 

[_Lefty]

What if I caught a charge and the streets is tellin my son im a legend? I dont want that in his head, I would spend every second i could educating them on my mistakes and doing all I can from behind the wall. Being a father from prison is better than not being one at all. I know what both answers look like and it never ends well when the father goes away for a couple years and tries to come back to a teenage son/daughter. I would stay my childs father during my bid until he rejects me which could happen at a certain age if im not physically there.

As long as his mother respects me, he or she will most likely do the same. I dont give a fuck what my situation is, the only thing that will keep me from trying to positively influence my child is death. I know actions speak louder than words, but im still going to keep pressing.

You niggas talkin that environment this and environment that is off base. The positives from being in your child's life, even through prison, far outweigh the negatives, everytime. Unless the father is glorifying it. But theres not as many ignorant niggas in jail movin like that as ya'll would think. Ya'll lookin at niggas in the system like theyre animals. It aint like that.

 

[zzombie]

It depends on why he's in prison ... he could be innocent so why deprive him of seeing his kid

 

[2stepz_ahead]

OK i see both sides of the coin..

I completely understand not wanting to expose kids to that lifestyle.... But if a family wants to support but each other and stay together through these times they should be able to...

Father's day be the busiest holiday at the jails

busiest day at the jail but most money is spend for mothers day.

busy at the jail but usually empty at the senior homes.

black fathers are held to such a high standard yet shit on in our community.

some people are even ok with ....why do anyhing for me..im just doing my job. its thankless...

fukk that...

when was the last time anyone of yall said...."thank you dad, for being in my life" or "thank God i never had to see you in jail"

i think we need to be more supportive and thankful for the men who aint like those fukk niggas who dont care, who stand up for whats right, who take time to chat it up with youngings an point them in the right direction.

supporting family is one thing.....but supporting a constant fukk up....at some point the shit is poison

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Niggas should have though about their kids before getting locked up.....

And this is the mentality that fucks everything up. SMH.

how so...

if you out here selling weight nd shooting up club...how much thinking of your child did you do....

i guarantee right now.....if i stole you and it was a gun on the table.....you would try to whip my ass first an not think about the gun ...due to either you know you trust in your hands or killing me would take you away....

nigga

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Niggas should have though about their kids before getting locked up.....

i mean what if they're just limited in their ways of making money?

a lot of people turn to crime, because that's all they know....in their minds they truly believe they're doing it for their kids....

some people just have an err in judgement....someone could hurt my child and i could lose it and hurt them in return, and then find myself in jail...

now i'm not saying that all jailed inmates are there for a noble cause, but when a person flat out says no....they are saying something along those lines....

there has to be an exception that you can agree with

honestly...i tried to think of one an i cant outside of defending my family or caught in some bullshit charge. if you want to say stealing to feed my family....stealing from a supermarket while in the process of making my situation better...yea.

but robbing someone or selling drugs....no because that puts me at risk of retaliation and or harm to my family.

and lets just say God forbid...i was in there....i will have o pass my time with pics. i dont want my child seeing me have to be told what to do like im a child while trying to rise a child.

 

[semi-auto-mato]

its really no right or wrong answer. it depends on the parents and in some cases the age of the child. when I was locked up visits were hard. my wife had to come early as hell. she had to check in before 8 and then once they let her in we had to sit in the gym for 3 hours. the visitors didn't have freedom to say ok I gotta take the baby home cuz she is cranky or sleepy. add that it was a 1.5 hour travel in each direction and that is hard on an adult so its crazy hard on a child. young kids come and don't really comprehend where u are. fathers often tell their kids that they are at work or they have a different house for a lil while. older kids know and that might be a problem. u cant really question a 12 y.o. about homework and nigga know u aint gonna be home until they 22. they like shit im raising myself.

 

[numbaz...80's baby]

 

[2stepz_ahead]

its really no right or wrong answer. it depends on the parents and in some cases the age of the child. when I was locked up visits were hard. my wife had to come early as hell. she had to check in before 8 and then once they let her in we had to sit in the gym for 3 hours. the visitors didn't have freedom to say ok I gotta take the baby home cuz she is cranky or sleepy. add that it was a 1.5 hour travel in each direction and that is hard on an adult so its crazy hard on a child. young kids come and don't really comprehend where u are. fathers often tell their kids that they are at work or they have a different house for a lil while. older kids know and that might be a problem. u cant really question a 12 y.o. about homework and nigga know u aint gonna be home until they 22. they like shit im raising myself.

see i have problems with these excuses....you gotta keep it real with them. you there now is time for change an earning their trust. kids aint stupid..

an who would want their child to be on the bus for 1.5 hours in the het with other crazy families and bad ass kids.

 

[semi-auto-mato]

its really no right or wrong answer. it depends on the parents and in some cases the age of the child. when I was locked up visits were hard. my wife had to come early as hell. she had to check in before 8 and then once they let her in we had to sit in the gym for 3 hours. the visitors didn't have freedom to say ok I gotta take the baby home cuz she is cranky or sleepy. add that it was a 1.5 hour travel in each direction and that is hard on an adult so its crazy hard on a child. young kids come and don't really comprehend where u are. fathers often tell their kids that they are at work or they have a different house for a lil while. older kids know and that might be a problem. u cant really question a 12 y.o. about homework and nigga know u aint gonna be home until they 22. they like shit im raising myself.

see i have problems with these excuses....you gotta keep it real with them. you there now is time for change an earning their trust. kids aint stupid..

an who would want their child to be on the bus for 1.5 hours in the het with other crazy families and bad ass kids.

I feel u but its hard to "keep it real" with a 3 y.o. for older kids its hard to earn trust if u never been around. I mean if u have a 12 y.o. and u been in and out for 10 years of their life. u aint earning trust in the box. u gotta come home and stay home and be there for the child.

perhaps in other states folks had to ride the bus together but my wife drove herself and parked in the parking lot. she was not forced to ride with anyone else. the problem was once she was inside she was inside for the duration.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

its really no right or wrong answer. it depends on the parents and in some cases the age of the child. when I was locked up visits were hard. my wife had to come early as hell. she had to check in before 8 and then once they let her in we had to sit in the gym for 3 hours. the visitors didn't have freedom to say ok I gotta take the baby home cuz she is cranky or sleepy. add that it was a 1.5 hour travel in each direction and that is hard on an adult so its crazy hard on a child. young kids come and don't really comprehend where u are. fathers often tell their kids that they are at work or they have a different house for a lil while. older kids know and that might be a problem. u cant really question a 12 y.o. about homework and nigga know u aint gonna be home until they 22. they like shit im raising myself.

see i have problems with these excuses....you gotta keep it real with them. you there now is time for change an earning their trust. kids aint stupid..

an who would want their child to be on the bus for 1.5 hours in the het with other crazy families and bad ass kids.

I feel u but its hard to "keep it real" with a 3 y.o. for older kids its hard to earn trust if u never been around. I mean if u have a 12 y.o. and u been in and out for 10 years of their life. u aint earning trust in the box. u gotta come home and stay home and be there for the child.

perhaps in other states folks had to ride the bus together but my wife drove herself and parked in the parking lot. she was not forced to ride with anyone else. the problem was once she was inside she was inside for the duration.

see that puts her in harms way since he car is in a lot for hours around criminals and their relations.

but if we talking in an out 10-12 yrs....

nah...you aint raising no kids...that guy aint fooling no one...he dont care about his kids. one time is a mistake.....2 on up...u dont give a shit

 

[7figz]

Of course they should.

#1 It's their father.

#2 Bad influence ? People don't visit people in jail and say "Hey, I want to do that !". If anything, it has the opposite effect.

 

[blacktux]

If im in the box i want to see my kid more than anything else. Without a connection to the outside people go insane.

Im sure the kids want to see ther dads too.

Speaking in context of a black family though. Not this baby daddy/ baby momma stuff.