Sandy Bland - Black Female Civil Rights Activist From Chicago Found Hanged In Texas Cell

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jono;8268481 said:
Im not saying he was a good guy, just that hes not legally responsible for what happened to her in someone else' custody. They can file a wrongful arrest suit if they want to. But folks saying he should be arrested and all, might as well forget that.

The result of death after his actions make him responsible. If he didn't lock her up for what everybody is saying is false imprisonment she wouldn't be dead.

 
Trillfate;8268749 said:
jono;8268481 said:
Im not saying he was a good guy, just that hes not legally responsible for what happened to her in someone else' custody. They can file a wrongful arrest suit if they want to. But folks saying he should be arrested and all, might as well forget that.

But he was reprimanded and demoted for what He did... how come that cant translate into legal culpability?

He just as guilty...

No he isnt. All that happened due primarily public pressure. Niggas get killed in jail all the time and nothing happens to the cop that arrested him. Its not his problem once the chain of custody changes.
 
not_osirus_jenkins;8268782 said:
jono;8268481 said:
Im not saying he was a good guy, just that hes not legally responsible for what happened to her in someone else' custody. They can file a wrongful arrest suit if they want to. But folks saying he should be arrested and all, might as well forget that.

The result of death after his actions make him responsible. If he didn't lock her up for what everybody is saying is false imprisonment she wouldn't be dead.

Again. Its irrelevant. Was she alive? Thats the relevant point. You can try to sue him for whatever HE did to her but HE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO.

D0wn;8268780 said:
jono;8268481 said:
Im not saying he was a good guy, just that hes not legally responsible for what happened to her in someone else' custody. They can file a wrongful arrest suit if they want to. But folks saying he should be arrested and all, might as well forget that.

The traffic stop was illegal to begin with.... lets start with that.

The family also have a case for her unlawful arrest. Then the slamming on the floor.

The unnecessary use of a taser, when she was already complying....

They can argue all that in court. The facts are she died in jail, in someone else's custody. Her death is not his fault.

 
jono;8268808 said:
not_osirus_jenkins;8268782 said:
jono;8268481 said:
Im not saying he was a good guy, just that hes not legally responsible for what happened to her in someone else' custody. They can file a wrongful arrest suit if they want to. But folks saying he should be arrested and all, might as well forget that.

The result of death after his actions make him responsible. If he didn't lock her up for what everybody is saying is false imprisonment she wouldn't be dead.

Again. Its irrelevant. Was she alive? Thats the relevant point. You can try to sue him for whatever HE did to her but HE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO.

D0wn;8268780 said:
jono;8268481 said:
Im not saying he was a good guy, just that hes not legally responsible for what happened to her in someone else' custody. They can file a wrongful arrest suit if they want to. But folks saying he should be arrested and all, might as well forget that.

The traffic stop was illegal to begin with.... lets start with that.

The family also have a case for her unlawful arrest. Then the slamming on the floor.

The unnecessary use of a taser, when she was already complying....

They can argue all that in court. The facts are she died in jail, in someone else's custody. Her death is not his fault.

Bruh, do you know the law? In the commission of a crime the resulting death is on the person that committed the crime. If a man kidnaps a women and she dies in a car accident trying to escape that's felony murder. Or in this case if a women was wrongfully imprisoned and she dies while imprisoned then it's on the jailer, which is the officer that arrested her illegally in the first place. It's an 'if you did not put this person in this situation the results would be different' type of thing.
 
not_osirus_jenkins;8269277 said:
jono;8268808 said:
not_osirus_jenkins;8268782 said:
jono;8268481 said:
Im not saying he was a good guy, just that hes not legally responsible for what happened to her in someone else' custody. They can file a wrongful arrest suit if they want to. But folks saying he should be arrested and all, might as well forget that.

The result of death after his actions make him responsible. If he didn't lock her up for what everybody is saying is false imprisonment she wouldn't be dead.

Again. Its irrelevant. Was she alive? Thats the relevant point. You can try to sue him for whatever HE did to her but HE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO.

D0wn;8268780 said:
jono;8268481 said:
Im not saying he was a good guy, just that hes not legally responsible for what happened to her in someone else' custody. They can file a wrongful arrest suit if they want to. But folks saying he should be arrested and all, might as well forget that.

The traffic stop was illegal to begin with.... lets start with that.

The family also have a case for her unlawful arrest. Then the slamming on the floor.

The unnecessary use of a taser, when she was already complying....

They can argue all that in court. The facts are she died in jail, in someone else's custody. Her death is not his fault.

Bruh, do you know the law? In the commission of a crime the resulting death is on the person that committed the crime. If a man kidnaps a women and she dies in a car accident trying to escape that's felony murder. Or in this case if a women was wrongfully imprisoned and she dies while imprisoned then it's on the jailer, which is the officer that arrested her illegally in the first place. It's an 'if you did not put this person in this situation the results would be different' type of thing.

All this is facts. Don't know why some folks don't know this.......

This logic can be applied to the Eric Garner case too. The ppl who take up for the cops are so quick to argue his "health" was the cause of his death. As if his health would've failed him right then and there as the same time when those cops put that illegal choke hold on him.......
 
texas409;8268588 said:
MasterJayN100;8262318 said:
the evil of some white folks
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Totally disgusting

the devil got its people out here too
 
Wtf happened to the 2nd autopsy by the family? Should've been done 2 weeks ago. They need to be aggressive in getting the information before the police shape the narrative. Smh
 
blackamerica;8276555 said:
Wtf happened to the 2nd autopsy by the family? Should've been done 2 weeks ago. They need to be aggressive in getting the information before the police shape the narrative. Smh

Waiting to hear them results any day now.....
 
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-t...ers-protest-at-Waller-County-jail-6440556.php

Black Panthers protest at Waller County jail

About 25 members of the Black Panthers marched in front of the Waller County Jail in Hempstead Wednesday to protest the arrest of Sandra Bland and other cases they characterized as "crimes against black people."

A huge contingent of law enforcement officers was on hand for the protest, which lasted for about two hours and led to no violence or arrests. On Sunday, protesters were forcibly evicted after storming the jail's lobby. Two elderly people were injured.

Bland, 28, was found hanged in her Waller County Jail Cell on July 13, three days after a state trooper arrested her after an altercation at a traffic stop. Her death was ruled a suicide, but questions continue about whether the arrest was appropriate.

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http://www.khou.com/story/news/loca...nstrators-protest-at-waller-co-jail/31565395/

Armed demonstrators protest at Waller Co. Jail

HEMPSTEAD, Texas - Anger billowed over at the Waller County Jail Wednesday as a group of demonstrators protested the Sandra Bland incident.

"Sandra Bland didn't have to be here," said one protestor. "America allowed this to happen," he continued.

The heavily armed demonstrators from the New Black Panther Party were greeted by a wall of mounted sheriff's deputies from Harris County.


The riot response team was called in to provide backup after demonstrators stormed the lobby of the jail on Sunday. Four Waller County Sheriff's deputies were slightly injured.

There was no violence during the protest on Wednesday. But police barricades surrounding the jail's entrance and the show of force by police didn't sit well with some bystanders.

"That's just tax-payers money going to waste," said Harold Manuel. "Tax-payers ought to be ashamed to see that."

Alicia Cormier agreed. "It's kind of disheartening because you don't want it to turn violent," said Cormier. "I think everyone has good intentions here today."

Despite the complaints, some locals said Waller County is getting a bum rap.

"Hempstead is not a racial community," said Donna Hyland. "We all get along. And it makes me kind of sad."
 
http://www.fortbendstar.com/2015/08...ve-on-sandra-bland-investigative-committee-2/

Three Sugar Land attorneys to serve on Sandra Bland investigative committee

Three of the four attorneys on the Sandra Bland investigative committee are defense attorneys in Sugar Land who previously worked as prosecutors in the Fort Bend District Attorney’s Office.

In an effort to provide a transparent investigation, Waller County District Attorney Elton Mathis asked that Sugar Land defense attorney Lewis White join a committee to investigate the Bland case. Mathis has repeatedly said the case will be treated like a Murder investigation.

White then requested fellow Sugar Land defense attorneys Chad Dick and Shawn McDonald join the committee, and they accepted. The fourth member of the committee is Houston defense attorney Darrell Jordan, and White said the committee is looking to add a fifth member. There is no timeline on the completion of their investigation.

The committee is a diverse one, since White and Jordan are African-American, while Dick and McDonald are Caucasian.

Bland, who had recently accepted a position at her alma mater, Prairie View A&M, reportedly committed suicide on July 13 in the Waller County Jail in Hempstead, 55 miles northwest of Sugar Land.

The Chicago native was driving in Waller County on July 10 when she was pulled over by Department of Public Safety (DPS) Trooper Brian Encinia for changing lanes without using a turn signal.

An argument ensued during the traffic stop, and Encinia forcibly removed Bland from the vehicle after threatening “I will light you up” with his taser. He then arrested Bland and charged her with Assault on a Public Servant. She unsuccessfully attempted to post bail on a $5,000 bond.

Initially, there was some suspension over whether Bland committed suicide, but an autopsy revealed her cause of death as such. But the Waller County Sheriff’s Office has been criticized for not doing more to protect Bland while she was in custody.

On Aug. 4, Bland’s family filed a federal lawsuit in Houston and requested a US Department of Justice investigation into her death.

The case has received international press coverage due to the ongoing trend of law enforcement’s relationship with the African-American community nationally, with Ferguson, Mo. (Michael Brown) and Staten Island, N.Y. (Eric Garner) among the cases. A Google search of Bland’s name produces 51.8 million results.

White, who also previously worked as a prosecutor in the Waller County District Attorney’s Office, said there has been a misconception that the committee is made up of special prosecutors.

“We’re not special prosecutors – we’re a committee that’s been asked to investigate the case,” White said. “We can take the case to a Grand Jury if we decide to indict somebody. We will do a proper investigation and see what the facts are. Right now, people only see what’s in the media.”

Each of the attorneys has worked on big cases before, but none have ever worked on a case with this much publicity. White, Dick and McDonald have all said they haven’t followed the case closely up to this point.

Dick, who agreed to join the committee last week, works for Sam W. Dick & Associates in Sugar Land.

“There’s been a whole lot of coverage and scrutiny – we have a tough job ahead of us and a lot of work to do,” Dick said. “I trust and like Lewis a lot. He asked me to join the committee, and he can trust us to do a good job.”

McDonald, a Sugar Land resident who recently moved his law firm back to Sugar Land (from Pearland), is looking forward to being part of the committee.

“It’s always good to have a thorough, transparent investigation to see if any crimes were committed,” McDonald said. “We’ll be looking at the case as a whole. There are no particular suspect that we have our eyes set on.”
 
http://www.khou.com/story/news/2015/08/17/special-prosecutors-take-over-sandra-bland-case/31888267/

Special prosecutors take over Sandra Bland case

The Waller County District Attorney has repeatedly spoken of the need for transparency in the case involving Sandra Bland. As a result, five special prosecutors have been appointed to the case.

The private sector attorneys were all sworn in Monday. The group includes two African-American individuals and one woman.

Special prosecutors are expected to look into the conduct of the DPS trooper involved in Bland's traffic stop. In July, Bland was pulled over for a minor traffic violation and spent the weekend in Waller County Jail. Authorities said Bland was found hanging in her cell – three days later. The medical examiner found that Bland killed herself, but protestors remain convinced she was the victim of foul play.

The district attorney said the special prosecutors will conduct a fair and thorough review of the evidence.

"It's important to me as the district attorney, it's important to the rest of my staff that the community here knows, the state of Texas knows and the world knows that justice will be served here in Waller County," said Elton Mathis, Waller County District Attorney.

KHOU 11 News has learned that special prosecutors could question the DPS trooper under oath. They may also question the Waller County sheriff.

If the investigation proceeds as planned, the findings could be presented to a grand jury by September.
 
The Waller County District Attorney has repeatedly spoken of the need for transparency in the case involving Sandra Bland. As a result, five special prosecutors have been appointed to the case.

The private sector attorneys were all sworn in Monday. The group includes two African-American individuals and one woman.

Special prosecutors are expected to look into the conduct of the DPS trooper involved in Bland's traffic stop.

White, who also previously worked as a prosecutor in the Waller County District Attorney’s Office, said there has been a misconception that the committee is made up of special prosecutors.

“We’re not special prosecutors – we’re a committee that’s been asked to investigate the case,” White said. “We can take the case to a Grand Jury if we decide to indict somebody. We will do a proper investigation and see what the facts are. Right now, people only see what’s in the media.”

So which is it? Because, by definition since they're outside the general area and jurisdiction of the town, they're special prosecutors.

 
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2nd autopsy done yet? Man the family don't got they shit together. What 2nd autopsy takes two months to finish? They let the cops do 2 autopsy in two weeks but ain't done one yet. Wtf
 
blackamerica;8300882 said:
2nd autopsy done yet? Man the family don't got they shit together. What 2nd autopsy takes two months to finish? They let the cops do 2 autopsy in two weeks but ain't done one yet. Wtf

You don't exactly plan for your daughter to get lynched and have a plan of action for when it happens.

They can't turn into special agents overnight and make ppl do shit they clearly don't want to do.

Basically they're trying to work within a system that is hell bent on being unjust to blacks. It's not about having ones shit together. I'm sure their shit is a together as can be expected under the circumstances.
 
DarcSkies;8301566 said:
You don't exactly plan for your daughter to get lynched and have a plan of action for when it happens.

They can't turn into special agents overnight and make ppl do shit they clearly don't want to do.

Basically they're trying to work within a system that is hell bent on being unjust to blacks. It's not about having ones shit together. I'm sure their shit is a together as can be expected under the circumstances.

Huh? That's why you hire a lawyer to advise you, which they have. Plus it doesn't take a plan of action to get a 2nd autopsy done. It's common sense, especially given the police, coroner & the prosecutor seem like their working together. The family said their doing a independent investigation. Well a 2nd autopsy should've been the FIRST thing they did. Somebody is fuckin up

 

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