Rakim vs. Biggie - Who has a better case for G.O.A.T.?

[Stew]

Rakim

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[just.might.b.ok]

Rakim
althought, like it or not, Biggie is a legend

 

[makaveli4ever]

Rakim. Wouldnt be a Biggie without him.

 

[5th Letter]

Both did things to change the game this is a tough one, but Big wins it for me.

 

[makaveli4ever]

This might sway some opinions.

[video=youtube;6Y1Emb7Jyks]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y1Emb7Jyks[/video]

 

[georgia boi]

This is kind of difficult. I think both are top 5, have two classics, and had a large impact and influence on Hip Hop. I do think that Biggie is the overall better rapper. Rakim may have been a blueprint for Big, but Big took it and expanded upon it w/ elements of Kane and Cube (delivery). Even still, this could go either way.

 

[longbeach_turnt_up]

what the fuck kinda question is this????? like nigga is u serious????

 

[YamoleySensei]

Biggie all the way...

Rakim is a lyrically dope but at the same time boring like a motherfucker

 

[gman82]

Rakim. He actually changed the game, had better subject matter, more classics, a longer run on top, and is respected by every lyricist from every era. Rakim is your favorite rapper's favorite rapper.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Rakim

/thread

true shit not a contest...

Pun your Slipping man Polls are back use a poll next versus

 

[georgia boi]

Rakim. He actually changed the game, had better subject matter, more classics, a longer run on top, and is respected by every lyricist from every era. Rakim is your favorite rapper's favorite rapper.

Biggie changed the game as well. There's no such thing as better subject matter. Both had two classic albums that are widely considered classics. As far as longer run at the top, Rakim's reign was like '87/'88 until maybe '91, by '92, Snoop & Dre were running the game. Biggie's reign was from '94-'97 consistently w/ classic albums, songs and guest spots not to mention chart hits.

 

[tompetrez3]

the second verse of follow the leader shits on anything biggie or bad boy ever created in their pathetic existance.

 

[supertitan]

Rakim changed the way MCs flow, period. Big helped bring Hip-Hop to the mainstream...and could also flow his ass off. It's a tough call but Big only had 2 albums before his death, I honestly don't think they're comparable. Rakim takes this IMO.

 

[Ibex]

I don't know who you YoSon niggas amp more Rakim or Big L either way Big over both them niggas

 

[isayas]

the second verse of follow the leader shits on anything biggie or bad boy ever created in their pathetic existance.

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepppppppppppp

 

[gman82]

Biggie changed the game as well. There's no such thing as better subject matter. Both had two classic albums that are widely considered classics. As far as longer run at the top, Rakim's reign was like '87/'88 until maybe '91, by '92, Snoop & Dre were running the game. Biggie's reign was from '94-'97 consistently w/ classic albums, songs and guest spots not to mention chart hits.

How was biggies reign from 94 - 97 when 2pac clearly had the game on lock in '96? Bone arguably had the game on lock in '95 if you wanna be real about it. Biggie was dead in '97 before his album even dropped. Technically Puffy had the game on lock in 97. That give biggie one year (94) on top and he shared that year with Snoop and Nas.

 

[youngnick]

This is a dumb argument. It's not even a close debate.

 

[tompetrez3]

biggie didnt even have 94 on lock. I would give 94 to warren g. regulator came out around january 94, atr soundtrack blew the track up. and i think his album came out late spring 94. he had hit after hit on radio. warren g was the 94 version of kanye. biggie shit didnt pick up steam until winter 94/spring 95 with that one more chance remix. matter of fact craig mack was getting more shine than big in the time their albums were released cause mack had flava in ya ear buzzin in the fall 94. get down was on some early 95 shit. if anything biggie was the man in 95. thats it. 96 belonged to bone and 2pac and you a goddamn fool if you dont believe that. 97 wasnt big year either. 97 was puffy year. he took all of big shine after his death. big had 1 year out of 3 he was active. not goat worthy.

 

[gman82]

biggie didnt even have 94 on lock. I would give 94 to warren g. regulator came out around january 94, atr soundtrack blew the track up. and i think his album came out late spring 94. he had hit after hit on radio. warren g was the 94 version of kanye. biggie shit didnt pick up steam until winter 94/spring 95 with that one more chance remix. matter of fact craig mack was getting more shine than big in the time their albums were released cause mack had flava in ya ear buzzin in the fall 94. get down was on some early 95 shit. if anything biggie was the man in 95. thats it. 96 belonged to bone and 2pac and you a goddamn fool if you dont believe that. 97 wasnt big year either. 97 was puffy year. he took all of big shine after his death. big had 1 year out of 3 he was active. not goat worthy.

Exactly. I think 95 has to go to Bone because they Creepin on ah Come up in late 94 and E 1999 in 95 and at the time they were bigger than biggie and had sold more reocrds.

 

[georgia boi]

How was biggies reign from 94 - 97 when 2pac clearly had the game on lock in '96? Bone arguably had the game on lock in '95 if you wanna be real about it. Biggie was dead in '97 before his album even dropped. Technically Puffy had the game on lock in 97. That give biggie one year (94) on top and he shared that year with Snoop and Nas.

To say Biggie didn't reign from '94-'97, but say Rakim reigned longer than Big is contradictory. It's also just as contradictory to say that Pac reigned in '96 when The Fugees had a bigger album that year. Bone didn't run '95 b/c "1st of the Month" was their only hit that year. "Crossroads" didn't really pop off until they dropped the remix back in '96.

From '94-'97, Biggie had "Juicy" (I don't even have to explain how big this song was and what it means to Hip Hop), "Big Poppa" (which was accompanied by a remix), "One More Chance (remix), "Who Shot Ya", "Player's Anthem", "Get Money", "Get Money" remix, an album w/ Junior Mafia that went gold, Kim's now double platinum debut album, cameos on singles from 112, Total, Craig Mack, Jay Z, Shaq, R. Kelly, soundtracks etc.

LOL, the fact that you mention Puffy in '97 further proves my point as Biggie was on two of the biggest singles from that album. The biggest single from the album was a song that was dedicated to Big. LOL @ '94 belonging to Nas when Illmatic wasn't even on the radar in comparison to Ready To Die. Ready To Die overshadowed Illmatic being that Ready To Die is usually the album that is credited w/ shifting focus back to the East. There wasn't a bigger album from the East than Ready To Die during that era.