Parents: R. Kelly Holding Our Daughters in Sex-Obsessed, Abusive ‘Cult’

[Lurkristocrat]

Has anybody made mention of the shadow figure on ole girl chest during the tmz interview making a throat cutting gestures?

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

this girl hit me like u heard that Kells shit? he s a fucked up person.....

me: nah what happened

Her: he has a cult of young girls and shit

Me: thats illegal now? he provided them with free room and board and a stable environment..anyone call the police

Her: Naw

Me; * sends her WS video of the girl denying the shit*

Her: i can t talk to u no more. u support that predatory motherfucker!!! u prolly ok with him sitting outside of Jones

high school back in the days to pick up girls.

Me: I didnt even go to Jones...fam was nt my competition lol

Her: Fuck you !!!!!

Me:

Like a bitch ass nigga

im posed to give a fuck or something?

 

[a.mann]

I hate this trend of people being put on trial through the media.

And black people are so full of shit. Yall know these mfers will lie, you see it all the time in cop shootings. But the minute a black celebrity gets some bad publicity, niggas wanna believe anything. All them crab tendencies come out, like yall been waiting for it.

mannnn thats whats most disturbing..

i was sayin this shit in the Cosby thread..

i was jus watchin a Malcolm clip yesturday..

where he was talkin about the KKK and NOI collusion and they (the white media) asked him about Thurgood.. i think.. nigga simply said "he's one of us.." and that they wasnt about to get him to talk about one of his.. that we as a people will deal wit that internally..

these integrated house niggas join the lynchin party on here and in society..

i cant respect these broken niggas..

Most of us get the nature and history of the white man. Which isn't the exactly the standard we should tolerant in our community when it comes to the treat of our (young) women

Standing up and speaking out against some foul shit, without stipulations will not fuckin kill you

 

[blackrain]

MFs still want to call it "protecting / defending" R. Kelly when people are talking about the specific evidence in this case. Smh, some MFs will never get that concept.

I'm wondering what yall want to happen in this case - "Rescue" the chick who says she hasn't been kidnapped ? Or just try to bring up the old shit that he's already been found not-guilty of ?

Nah you got plenty niggas saying as long as white folks don't do shit to their own then why should I stop listening to 12 Play?

 

[2stepz_ahead]

I don't see anything wrong here. Sounds like some bitter parents to me.

Those young ladies are grown. Y'all do realize that most of these strippers, porn stars, and IG thots are in the same age bracket.

He's a old rich nigga with a flock of bad young bitches that he's taking care of. I don't see the problem. All those little hoes got the option of simply leaving if they want.

He's doing nothing different than this guy has been doing for decades without any criticism...........

But Hugh Hefner wasn't on tape pissing on 14 years old though B.

im sure there are tapes..

whites dont out they own tho..

And niggas shouldn't protect those preying on young girls either just because "white people don't out their own". Like I've said before many of y'all dont want to change this system you simply want to replace white folks and take their benefits...even the fucked up ones

nah.. if there really is a problem.. then we should deal with the problem..

NOT only have a problem once white people (the media) have a problem..

I'm reading parents are sending these kids to a "sick" person so who's really the sick person??

I'm reading nigga was hanging out at schools?? if we really had a problem he should've been dealt with.. I almost got my foot ran over before trying to drag a nigga out his truck following my sister.. I had to be 16/17yrs old..

how and why did the first tape get exposed?? wasn't Sparkle mad at Kells or some shit??

she knew what he was doing.. even knew where the tapes were kept..

@ChiCity said earlier.. niggas and bitches working with him and know its wrong but since they getting paid they cool and when they not they got this "outrage"

and now the, angry cause the aint benefiting, parents of these adults mad and run to the police, but since there is no crime.. they now runnin to the white media??

nah..

he's the "inflicted" one.. but y'all muthafuckas are truly sick.

Niggas way of dealing with R Kelly seems to be "Well white folks don't out their own so why should we?". Its been said many times in this thread and past threads about R. Kelly. Thats not dealing with a problem that's using fucked up standards to ignore fucked up actions simply because the nigga can sing. You right he should have been dealt with years ago. I said it already its crazy niggas in Chicago spent the 90s killing each other over which way they wore their hat but had no issue with this nigga chilling in HS parking lots picking up girls. Seeing stories of young women in Chicago talking about him hitting on them when they were as young as 12 and 13 and shit. That shit is a problem and its been a long standing problem in the community that people push under the rug.

true....but why is it accepted?

who accepts it?

think about it.....whos doing it?

if a bum ass nigga did it....would he not be dealt with?

but if a nigga with money did it.....hmmmmm. are they special?

Not really because you ask many girls who were abused by a family member or family friend and the end result wasn't that dude going to jail or even catching a fade. Plenty women will tell you they repeatedly had to see a family member or family friend who had touched them inappropriately simply because folks like to talk that "black folks don't do this" nonsense. There's a reason Chris Rock made that joke about "Uncle Johnny" and keeping the kids away from him in Bigger and Blacker. Thats how folks deal with that shit. They just try to pretend it doesnt exist.

My wife's job is in family therapy specifically dealing with at risk youths and young adults...and the shit she tells me she hears daily from these young kids, both girls/ young women and boys/young men, about how their families knowingly ignored abuse happening is crazy

i agree.... i was heard the same shit when i listened in classes....i mentioned it hear before but never specified about the abuse part.

i am well aware of the family stuff...im talking out on the street.

but i could be wrong.

 

[CapitalB]

I hate this trend of people being put on trial through the media.

And black people are so full of shit. Yall know these mfers will lie, you see it all the time in cop shootings. But the minute a black celebrity gets some bad publicity, niggas wanna believe anything. All them crab tendencies come out, like yall been waiting for it.

mannnn thats whats most disturbing..

i was sayin this shit in the Cosby thread..

i was jus watchin a Malcolm clip yesturday..

where he was talkin about the KKK and NOI collusion and they (the white media) asked him about Thurgood.. i think.. nigga simply said "he's one of us.." and that they wasnt about to get him to talk about one of his.. that we as a people will deal wit that internally..

these integrated house niggas join the lynchin party on here and in society..

i cant respect these broken niggas..

Most of us get the nature and history of the white man. Which isn't the exactly the standard we should tolerant in our community when it comes to the treat of our (young) women

Standing up and speaking out against some foul shit, without stipulations will not fuckin kill you

well do it before the white man catches wind of it..

i dont care who it is.. RKelly or whoever.. touch one of mines..

as much as i love me some Mike he did some shit to my child itd be me in jail and not that doctor..

if niggas really had a problem niggas would really do shit..

but instead we got niggas.. bitches and now parents feedin this animal..

and only have a problem when Massa finds out..

look im not here to defend this nigga.. im just pointin out how u niggas lesbians!

real men aint goin for this shit..

nor display yo bitch ass tendencies...

 

[Shizlansky]

Africas fuck with you girls too.

A lot of the foolishness we as blacks in America don't tolerate is being done in the rest of world (plus whites in America)

 

[CapitalB]

MFs still want to call it "protecting / defending" R. Kelly when people are talking about the specific evidence in this case. Smh, some MFs will never get that concept.

I'm wondering what yall want to happen in this case - "Rescue" the chick who says she hasn't been kidnapped ? Or just try to bring up the old shit that he's already been found not-guilty of ?

Nah you got plenty niggas saying as long as white folks don't do shit to their own then why should I stop listening to 12 Play?

speakin of..

tell me this shit dont jam!!?

 

[jono]

There's no way to know whether the girl is being held against her will or not. Cult behavior typically means sheltering from the outside world and brainwashing them. Most people in cults don't even know they're in a cult.

That's not to say R Kelly has some sex cult. I don't know.

What I can say, is that for the girl to go dark on her family for months is suspicious. For the family to have to make this shit a big deal in the news in order to hear from her is suspicious.

The fact that other families and girls who have been involved stating similar stories is suspicious.

All that might be nothing. Hopefully its nothing. But looking at R Kelly's history of grooming young girls its not farfetched to think he's got some strange shit happening at his house.

That's the stark difference between Kellz and the Hugh Hefner.

Hef has had cameras all through the Playboy Mansion for decades. He's never been seen or associates with underage women, no history of grooming them and many...including Hef himself have said he doesn't have sex with all the women roaming the mansion.

The Playboy Mansion is essentially a grown up playground, nothing the least bit sinister or suspicious about it. In fact, I don't think I've heard a negative story about Hef at all.

No rape

No sexual assault

No lawsuits

Nothing and its been 50 years.

Some shit could have happened and it was kept under wraps but nothing out in the open where you can look at Hef and say he's a scoundrel that hangs out around high schools, no video of him violating some young chick, no gotdamn marriage certificates for a wedding with a 15 yr old. None of that.

R Kelly is a weirdo, people have suspicions. That's a natural reaction to weirdos, its got nothing to do with his race or anything like that. Niggas need to stop trying to divert the issue.

This is about whether R Kelly is back on his same bullshit or not and I hope he isn't.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

There's no way to know whether the girl is being held against her will or not. Cult behavior typically means sheltering from the outside world and brainwashing them. Most people in cults don't even know they're in a cult.

That's not to say R Kelly has some sex cult. I don't know.

What I can say, is that for the girl to go dark on her family for months is suspicious. For the family to have to make this shit a big deal in the news in order to hear from her is suspicious.

The fact that other families and girls who have been involved stating similar stories is suspicious.

All that might be nothing. Hopefully its nothing. But looking at R Kelly's history of grooming young girls its not farfetched to think he's got some strange shit happening at his house.

@7figz

this

MFs still want to call it "protecting / defending" R. Kelly when people are talking about the specific evidence in this case. Smh, some MFs will never get that concept.

I'm wondering what yall want to happen in this case - "Rescue" the chick who says she hasn't been kidnapped ? Or just try to bring up the old shit that he's already been found not-guilty of ?

and like we don't have ppl ready to forgive Kelly or dismiss the allegations simply because other ppl do it

or because the chocolate factory

at the end of the day we don't know all the evidence they have

all we can do is make conjecture, like you are doing ...the hope being if he is guilty of a crime, he has to face consequences

and his past matters....doesn't mean he did it....but it helps to establish a pattern...a motive...can help or hurt his credibility

stop being disingenuous

 

[rip.dilla]

Africas fuck with you girls too.

Huh?

 

[7figz]

There's no way to know whether the girl is being held against her will or not. Cult behavior typically means sheltering from the outside world and brainwashing them. Most people in cults don't even know they're in a cult.

That's not to say R Kelly has some sex cult. I don't know.

What I can say, is that for the girl to go dark on her family for months is suspicious. For the family to have to make this shit a big deal in the news in order to hear from her is suspicious.

The fact that other families and girls who have been involved stating similar stories is suspicious.

All that might be nothing. Hopefully its nothing. But looking at R Kelly's history of grooming young girls its not farfetched to think he's got some strange shit happening at his house.

@7figz

this

MFs still want to call it "protecting / defending" R. Kelly when people are talking about the specific evidence in this case. Smh, some MFs will never get that concept.

I'm wondering what yall want to happen in this case - "Rescue" the chick who says she hasn't been kidnapped ? Or just try to bring up the old shit that he's already been found not-guilty of ?

and like we don't have ppl ready to forgive Kelly or dismiss the allegations simply because other ppl do it

or because the chocolate factory

at the end of the day we don't know all the evidence they have

all we can do is make conjecture, like you are doing ...the hope being if he is guilty of a crime, he has to face consequences

and his past matters....doesn't mean he did it....but it helps to establish a pattern...a motive...can help or hurt his credibility

stop being disingenuous

How am I being disingenuous ?

Did I say the past doesn't matter or did I say the past doesn't prove guilt in current accusations ?

And I damn sure ain't using conjecture because I'm not assuming anything... like y'all are doing by assuming based on his apparent thing for young girls, that this cult shit is true. Or that because somebody likes his music they'll look the other way to him fucking with underage girls.

My logic here is based on the girl's age and the fact that she's saying it isn't true.

And I'm logical enough to discern the difference between past situations' evidence and this one.

 

[VIBE]

Kellz was wrong as hell for fucking with those underage girls and should have been thrown under the jail. With that said an 18 year old ADULT WOMAN is free to fuck whoever she chooses. If that bitch decides she wants to fuck a 50, 60 or 70 year old man that's her business. Go ask Anna Nichole Smith about that shit. I'll personally fuck as many ADULT women of any age as I choose.

I have no sympathy for these dumb, thirsty, fame wanting ass bitches or their adult groupie ass parents. They raised a young, pussy popping, thot ass slore and in many of these R. Kelly situations the parents literary gave their daughters to him. Aaliyah wasn't the only one.

A grown 18 year old bitch is responsible for her own actions good, bad or otherwise. And half of these broads talking all that bullshit were probably the same hoes getting picked up after school by a grown ass man in a nice car and fucking his 25-30 year old brains out for Jordan's and fake jewlery. Talking shit about Kellz past doesn't change yours.

I was going to say something similar to this but I also realize that they're very young and their mental state is nowhere near mature. They're going to make shitty decisions based off their emotional state in that moment, that's what makes Kellz the predator he is. He understands the how mallable their minds are, manipulation is powerful. This is why they fall for it, they're weak. The strong ones can't be played. Mind is a powerful tool and weapon. So, there is slight sympathy here. At least for me, maybe it's bc I have a daughter and see things differently now.

 

[kzzl]

I hate this trend of people being put on trial through the media.

And black people are so full of shit. Yall know these mfers will lie, you see it all the time in cop shootings. But the minute a black celebrity gets some bad publicity, niggas wanna believe anything. All them crab tendencies come out, like yall been waiting for it.

bruh

he was a long history of preying on underage girls

not a stretch to believe the reports....they corroborate a well established pattern

his career actually should have ended after he married aaliyah

Rkelly is just one of the black entertainers ive seen this with lately. Nate Parker and Bill Cosby are the others.

And you say preying, but ive yet to see a woman not accept his money. Its 2017, Black Chyna is these girls spirit animal, aint nothing stopping them from cleaning Kellys clock if they wanted.

Women?

Some of the girls in question are barely out of highschool...and I'm sure a few he's been grooming for years

And this isnt just some witch hunt. News outlets are just doing their jobs which is reporting the news. Parents from two different locations and no connections have filed police reports alleging Kelly a very famous man of serious crimes. Allegations that former members of his inner circle have cooborated

Not to say the media can't be biased, but CNN, Buzzfeed or whoever didnt give a fuck about his escapades until the video surfaced. Even when he married aaliyah when she was 15, almost a decade prior, the story barely made headlines. He still went on to win multiple grammys, sale out shows, and make millions of dollars

That said, you can characterize these girls and young women as “gold diggers” and “fast-ass girls” who “knew what they were getting into" but it still doesnt make his behavior acceptable

Allowing rkelly and the like to do as the please without consequnce for all these years has only helped to create and maintain a culture in which sexual predators are given the opportunity to exploit and toy with the lives of our young. Or are they not worth defending????

And what makes it even sadder is kelly admitted to being sexually abused throughout his childhood and teen years and how it negatively impacted his life

Same with Cosby, believe what you want about the media, but his choice to use deception and his celebrity to take advantage of dozens of young women is what ultimately got him on the front page and should not be acceptable behavior

Fuck all of that. If they say they aint being treated wrong there aint nothing else to pursue. Show proof he is doing what outsiders are claiming then go after the man. Until then his history doesnt change that legal is legal and consent is consent.

 

[skpjr78]

R. Kelly has proven himself to be a perverted pedo pos and should have been locked up after the Aaliyah situation. But as long as cacs keep watching Woodie Allen and Roman Polanski movies I'll continue to bump 12 Play and the R. As long as Kellz keeps it 18+ he's good going forward. That doesn't make up for his bullshit in the past but 18=legal period point blank.

You need a better standard than "If white people do it then so will I"

You need to learn what the word accountability means. Call me when the same cacs and the same media hold Woody Allen and Roman Polanski to the same level of account that they want to hold R. Kelly to. With that said fuck his pedo activities and theirs to.

 

[Chi Snow]

Can anyone point to the 'crime' in this instance?

Don't mention Aaliyah

Don't mention peeing on a chick

Don't mention allegedly stalking HS

In this case of having a sex cult and a chick who lives in one of his homes coming out saying it's untrue, who can point to a crime that's being committed by Mr. Kelly?

 

[blackrain]

R. Kelly has proven himself to be a perverted pedo pos and should have been locked up after the Aaliyah situation. But as long as cacs keep watching Woodie Allen and Roman Polanski movies I'll continue to bump 12 Play and the R. As long as Kellz keeps it 18+ he's good going forward. That doesn't make up for his bullshit in the past but 18=legal period point blank.

You need a better standard than "If white people do it then so will I"

You need to learn what the word accountability means. Call me when the same cacs and the same media hold Woody Allen and Roman Polanski to the same level of account that they want to hold R. Kelly to. With that said fuck his pedo activities and theirs to.

I'm not talking about white people and their standards. Why you basing what and who you hold accountable on who they do?

 

[Trollio]

this girl hit me like u heard that Kells shit? he s a fucked up person.....

me: nah what happened

Her: he has a cult of young girls and shit

Me: thats illegal now? he provided them with free room and board and a stable environment..anyone call the police

Her: Naw

Me; * sends her WS video of the girl denying the shit*

Her: i can t talk to u no more. u support that predatory motherfucker!!! u prolly ok with him sitting outside of Jones

high school back in the days to pick up girls.

Me: I didnt even go to Jones...fam was nt my competition lol

Her: Fuck you !!!!!

Me:

Like a bitch ass nigga

im posed to give a fuck or something?

Shut up and become a chicago statistic

 

[deadeye]

Thought Crimez is talking about this live right now:
=em-lss

 

[deadeye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsiLxe2kTuY

Ok, I understand how R Kelly got over his sickness now.

Girl in that video doesn't look any older than 16.

So, I don't think he's gotten over his addiction to underage girls.

He's just figured out a way to still satisfy that addiction by going after legal aged girls that look underage.

Meaning, 18 is the age of consent.........but, if the 18yr old girl looks like she's only 15........he's getting the same feeling he would get if the girl was actually underage.

Basically, in his mind........he's still fucking underage girls.

Only difference is they're not underage.........they just look underage.

All of what you said maybe true but 18 is still 18. Even if what you said is 100% true and Kellz is pursuing 18 year old LEGALLY GROWN ADULT WOMEN that look young as hell there's still nothing you can do about it. At least the dumb ass finally realized the significance of the number 18 and left the underage children alone. That's a huge improvement for this fucking perv. He can smash as many 18 and up hoes as he wants with no fucks given. I see no problem here.

That's all I'm saying.

As twisted as it seems, he's found a legal way to cope with his penchant for underage girls.