A lot of y'all just sound happy to have another Star Wars, and act like this movie isn't open to criticism. The difference between this and the first 6 films, is they give you time to breathe. They overdose on the action in this. It's virtually non stop. They had an opportunity to go more in depth with some of the other characters, but instead we get another fucking death star action scene, that takes away from the appeal of blowing up the original, because of the tight window they had to blow up the original. They could have started at the point where training Kylo goes wrong for Luke. Instead the same story as A New Hope was told. That shit is wack. I've got no problem with Finn, Rey, Kylo, Snoke, but why have new characters telling the same story of the original characters, that are IN THIS FUCKING FILM??? I won't be suprised if the next film mirrors Empire Strikes Back, and fuck that. Is this a continuation or a reboot? The OG films didn't need to be rebooted
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Official Star Wars Cinematic Universe Thread: Now Showing : Ep VIII - The Last Jedi (15 Dec)
Elzo69Renaissance
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That shit was mildly trash and non sensical...like did Finn really catch a lightsaber fade w a trained Jedi, his 2nd time holding a lightsaber....that movie had more plot holesvthan a spaghetti strainer....im almost insulted....
Elzo69Renaissance
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On another note, you can tell the actor who played Finn studied a lot of Denzel Washington
804;8619823 said:A lot of y'all just sound happy to have another Star Wars, and act like this movie isn't open to criticism. The difference between this and the first 6 films, is they give you time to breathe. They overdose on the action in this. It's virtually non stop. They had an opportunity to go more in depth with some of the other characters, but instead we get another fucking death star action scene, that takes away from the appeal of blowing up the original, because of the tight window they had to blow up the original. They could have started at the point where training Kylo goes wrong for Luke. Instead the same story as A New Hope was told. That shit is wack. I've got no problem with Finn, Rey, Kylo, Snoke, but why have new characters telling the same story of the original characters, that are IN THIS FUCKING FILM??? I won't be suprised if the next film mirrors Empire Strikes Back, and fuck that. Is this a continuation or a reboot? The OG films didn't need to be rebooted
I mean this film was essentially a soft reboot due to the bad taste in everyone's mouthes from the prequels. First & foremost Disney was faced with the task of regaining the trust of the public because people were coming into this film with sky high expectations & eagle eyes looking for any faults. There was a lot riding on the success and critical reception of Force Awakens because Disney is looking to launch an entire universe off of this. Their own words being, "a Star Wars film every single year for as long as their able to make them."
Yes, there are plenty of other ways they could have gone with the plot but similar storyline trajectories & plot elements doesn't immediately equate to the film being wack. You have your own expectations to blame for that.
Especially when you have films such as Creed that just did the exact same type of retread but no one seemed to have any qualms with that flick.
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The Lonious Monk
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charles2;8619667 said:The Lonious Monk;8619586 said:charles2;8618913 said:This shit was dope and Finn is a great character! Ol' crabs in a barrel ass niggas. Y'all worse than what you're railing against.
Hold on, are you implying that if you didn't think Finn was a great character that you're against a black man making? I hope not because that would be one of the retarded things I've ever seen on the IC and that's saying a lot. I'm glad the actor is getting some shine, but the character was goofy and annoying to me. He wasn't bad and he had good qualities, but I wouldn't say he was a great lead.
Anyway, the move was ok. I'd give it a 7/10. It was entertaining, but nothing spectacular. Po was raw with the flying though. The part where he came through and wrecked shit was the rawest part in the movie to me.
What I'm saying is, if someone makes claims that Finn's character is some kind of coon, shucking and jiving and chasing white women, then they're just as bad. He should be critiqued on the merit of his performance and not on someone's militant, conspiracy theory bias.
Oh yeah, agreed. I just ignore bullshit comments like that.
I watch the movie for in-story dynamics not the other shit people try to put into it. Coon and shucking and jiving are meaningless terms in the Star Wars universe since as far as I can tell racism doesn't exist there.
(ob)Scene;8619841 said:804;8619823 said:A lot of y'all just sound happy to have another Star Wars, and act like this movie isn't open to criticism. The difference between this and the first 6 films, is they give you time to breathe. They overdose on the action in this. It's virtually non stop. They had an opportunity to go more in depth with some of the other characters, but instead we get another fucking death star action scene, that takes away from the appeal of blowing up the original, because of the tight window they had to blow up the original. They could have started at the point where training Kylo goes wrong for Luke. Instead the same story as A New Hope was told. That shit is wack. I've got no problem with Finn, Rey, Kylo, Snoke, but why have new characters telling the same story of the original characters, that are IN THIS FUCKING FILM??? I won't be suprised if the next film mirrors Empire Strikes Back, and fuck that. Is this a continuation or a reboot? The OG films didn't need to be rebooted
I mean this film was essentially a soft reboot due to the bad taste in everyone's mouthes from the prequels. First & foremost Disney was faced with the task of regaining the trust of the public because people were coming into this film with sky high expectations & eagle eyes looking for any faults. There was a lot riding on the success and critical reception of Force Awakens because Disney is looking to launch an entire universe off of this. Their own words being, "a Star Wars film every single year for as long as their able to make them."
Yes, there are plenty of other ways they could have gone with the plot but similar storyline trajectories & plot elements doesn't immediately equate to the film being wack. You have your own expectations to blame for that.
Especially when you have films such as Creed that just did the exact same type of retread but no one seemed to have any qualms with that flick.
Damn nigga, I haven't seen Creed yet.
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I have no problems with this movie that are glaring
Of course there's gonna be questions...it's the first of a new trilogy..nobody had questions after ep 1?
And Finn was fine as a character, he was somebody to root for and he showed that you don't have to be in the rebellion or a force user to make a difference. Imo he's NOT going to be a Jedi and that's okay. I personally don't hate that the movie marketed finn as one because it was a nice twist to find out about rey. My only real gripe with the movie was han's death I mean it was painfully too predictable...I knew as soon as he saw ben he was gonna die and rey being so well versed in the force over ben so soon quickly.
But I love that he killed his dad because he knew that's what he needed to do to fully 100% give himself to the darkside. Which means he can now grow even stronger in addition to his training. I wish the movie had a bit better swordplay/choreography but I understand why it was so clumsy and sloppy. Nobody in the movie was TRULY honed in the arts. I think that blaster shot that ren stopped is still there.
And Finn was fine as a character, he was somebody to root for and he showed that you don't have to be in the rebellion or a force user to make a difference. Imo he's NOT going to be a Jedi and that's okay. I personally don't hate that the movie marketed finn as one because it was a nice twist to find out about rey. My only real gripe with the movie was han's death I mean it was painfully too predictable...I knew as soon as he saw ben he was gonna die and rey being so well versed in the force over ben so soon quickly.
But I love that he killed his dad because he knew that's what he needed to do to fully 100% give himself to the darkside. Which means he can now grow even stronger in addition to his training. I wish the movie had a bit better swordplay/choreography but I understand why it was so clumsy and sloppy. Nobody in the movie was TRULY honed in the arts. I think that blaster shot that ren stopped is still there.
Beta;8620006 said:I have no problems with this movie that are glaring
Of course there's gonna be questions...it's the first of a new trilogy..nobody had questions after ep 1?
And Finn was fine as a character, he was somebody to root for and he showed that you don't have to be in the rebellion or a force user to make a difference. Imo he's NOT going to be a Jedi and that's okay. I personally don't hate that the movie marketed finn as one because it was a nice twist to find out about rey. My only real gripe with the movie was han's death I mean it was painfully too predictable...I knew as soon as he saw ben he was gonna die and rey being so well versed in the force over ben so soon quickly.
But I love that he killed his dad because he knew that's what he needed to do to fully 100% give himself to the darkside. Which means he can now grow even stronger in addition to his training. I wish the movie had a bit better swordplay/choreography but I understand why it was so clumsy and sloppy. Nobody in the movie was TRULY honed in the arts. I think that blaster shot that ren stopped is still there.
I actually loved that the lightsaber battles were so rugged. For the reasons you stated but also because it gave it a sense of "fight" that a lot of the previous battles didn't have. While the prequels had some epic battles there were also a lot of occasions where it came across as painfully choreographed.
BangEm_Bart
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texas409;8619683 said:cannonspike1994;8619604 said:This film doesn't explain shit. It's like watching a pilot to a TV show after watching it it leaves you with too many questions to be a good movie.
who is Rey and why is she so good with the force. ?
How did maz katana find Luke's lightsaber ?
Who is snoke ?
How do han and Leia know about snoke.
Why did kylo turn to the dark side ?
Why is Luke hiding and why is he leaving his friends and the galaxy in danger. Luke in the OT would never do that.
What's going to happen to Finn ?
How does Leia know who Rey is ?
Why didn't Luke/Han/Leia try to redeem kylo sooner?
I think the second film will answer all these questions then the third film will start where the first ended then wrap everything up
Well I'll wait to read if Finn continues to get treated like shit before I spend money on the next. Probably wait for Tariqs review.
BangEm_Bart
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Ya cotdamn right they will :'(
Elzo69Renaissance;8619825 said:That shit was mildly trash and non sensical...like did Finn really catch a lightsaber fade w a trained Jedi, his 2nd time holding a lightsaber....that movie had more plot holesvthan a spaghetti strainer....im almost insulted....
Finn is possible force sensitive snd Kylo is a roomie himself his training was never completed. Kylo will be a beast in the episode 8 though.
Juttythe3rd
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when he stopped that laser doe...mmmm
Focal Point
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Didn't Obi Wan commit himself to exile when he failed with Anikan, didn't For a go into self imposed exile also when the emperor made himself known @cannonspike1994
Focal Point;8620274 said:Didn't Obi Wan commit himself to exile when he failed with Anikan, didn't For a go into self imposed exile also when the emperor made himself known @cannonspike1994
all Jedis do when they dont accomplish what they intended to accomplish
@DillaDeaf I wouldn't know what to say because I don't plan on ever seeing this one. Only one of the sequels I actually plan on seeing is Rian Johnson's because it's the new movie from Rian Johnson.
I did hope we'd get Lando & Son someday with Billy Dee and Michael B. Jordan revisiting his Lucasfilm roots (Red Tails). That and Jedi Adventures feat. Obi-Wan and Mace Windu starring Ewan McGregor and Samuel Jackson. Are you listening Disney?
I did hope we'd get Lando & Son someday with Billy Dee and Michael B. Jordan revisiting his Lucasfilm roots (Red Tails). That and Jedi Adventures feat. Obi-Wan and Mace Windu starring Ewan McGregor and Samuel Jackson. Are you listening Disney?
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finally saw it. Had to stay away from this thread till I did.
Patricide is some cold shit. Didn't see that coming.[/spolier]
Dope flick. Pandora's box has been opened. And with the money they made off this, the Star Wars movie franchise just got a 20-year lease. I expect a new SW film every three years.
Dope flick. Pandora's box has been opened. And with the money they made off this, the Star Wars movie franchise just got a 20-year lease. I expect a new SW film every three years.
Breezy_Kilroy
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This is some pretty good insight on Harrison Ford and his feelings towards Han Solo throughout the years.
http://www.vox.com/2015/12/19/10624632/star-wars-force-awakens-spoilers
http://www.vox.com/2015/12/19/10624632/star-wars-force-awakens-spoilers
VulcanRaven
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I don't like the fact that we have to wait til the sequel ti find out who Rey really is. Disney is milking this for all it's worth.
VulcanRaven
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fortyacres;8618696 said:white715;8618687 said:I've been sitting back for a week reading the comments on here so I'll throw my two cents in now.
One thing I think people are missing is that this is not a stand alone movie. This is really the 1st act of a story, there will be more revelations and character development in the next two movies.
These dude online said some real shit like people are looking for the things that are wrong with this movie even tho they like it very much or are satisfied. They wont even talk about what they like just what they themselves might have done better , i think that has ruined the experience for movies in this era.
We live in an age of selective outrage.
I disagree.There are many things wrong with the movie with nothing original. It reminds me of episode 3 with the best thing about it being from that movie including Chewie and Han. The movie itself is just nothing interesting. I am glad to see a HD SW movie but this is not the way I would want it, but I knew that when Lucas sold it. I preferred JJ's Star Trek movies to this. I will see it through to the end with the sequels though. The Force Awakens just is not living up to the hype.
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VulcanRaven
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804;8619823 said:A lot of y'all just sound happy to have another Star Wars, and act like this movie isn't open to criticism. The difference between this and the first 6 films, is they give you time to breathe. They overdose on the action in this. It's virtually non stop. They had an opportunity to go more in depth with some of the other characters, but instead we get another fucking death star action scene, that takes away from the appeal of blowing up the original, because of the tight window they had to blow up the original. They could have started at the point where training Kylo goes wrong for Luke. Instead the same story as A New Hope was told. That shit is wack. I've got no problem with Finn, Rey, Kylo, Snoke, but why have new characters telling the same story of the original characters, that are IN THIS FUCKING FILM??? I won't be suprised if the next film mirrors Empire Strikes Back, and fuck that. Is this a continuation or a reboot? The OG films didn't need to be rebooted
I agree with most of what you typed and would put this movie dead last off of first time viewing it but I did not expect better so I took it for what it was, a cash in by Disney.
