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NBA players and owners hold firm....decertification process has started
its over: 2012!;3710410 said:Link up where Kobe said that
about 20 seconds mark. it talks how kobe told Hunter he'll support 50/50 and wants to play.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7...ins-players-meeting-new-york-discuss-proposal
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Aristo_V300
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Niggas ain't take the 50/50?
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Q45T;3710452 said:Niggas ain't take the 50/50?
No they just had a press conf.
Kobe was in the background off to himself with shades on like u niggas stupid. lol
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Players have given up way more than the owners, the owners have to make some concessions too. It's clown ass niggas like MJ that don't know how to run franchises and are mad at the players, same fools who spite the hiphop culture and cut off part of their revenue stream.
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Stephen A Smith
Stephen A. Smith has some advice for the NBA players' union: Bring the owners' latest proposal to a member vote, because there won't be a better one and you're out of time and leverage
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NPBA rejects owners' offer, begin to disband as union
Posted Nov 14 2011 10:30AM - Updated Nov 14 2011 2:19PM
• Labor Central
• Comparing the offers
• Stern's memo to players with complete offer (PDF)
NEW YORK (AP) -- The NBA players rejected the league's latest offer Monday and have begun the process to disband the union.
The decision likely jeopardizes the season.
"We're prepared to file this antitrust action against the NBA," union executive director Billy Hunter said. "That's the best situation where players can get their due process."
He said players were not prepared to accept the NBA Commissioner David Stern's ultimatum, saying they thought it was "extremely unfair."
"This is the best decision for the players," union president Derek Fisher said. "I want to reiterate that point, that a lot of individual players have a lot of things personally at stake in terms of their careers and where they stand. And right now they feel it's important -- we all feel it's important to all our players, not just the ones in this room, but our entire group -- that we not only try to get a deal done for today but for the body of NBA players that will come into this league over the next decade and beyond."
Hunter said players were not prepared to accept the NBA Commissioner David Stern's ultimatum, saying they thought it was "extremely unfair."
In its latest offer, the league had proposed a 72-game season beginning Dec. 15.
On Sunday, the league made a very public push on the positives of the deal -- hosting a 90-minute twitter chat to answer questions from players and fans, posting a YouTube video to explain the key points and sending a memo from Stern to players urging them to "study our proposal carefully, and to accept it as a fair compromise of the issues between us."
In the memo, posted on the league's Web site, Stern highlighted points of the deal and asked players to focus on the compromises the league made during negotiations, such as dropping its demands for a hard salary cap, non-guaranteed contracts and salary rollbacks.
The previous CBA expired at the end of the day June 30. Despite a series of meetings in June, there was never much hope of a deal before that deadline, with owners wanting significant changes after saying they lost $300 million last season and hundreds of millions more in each year of the old agreement, which was ratified in 2005.
Owners wanted to keep more of the league's nearly $4 billion in basketball revenues to themselves after guaranteeing 57 percent to the players under the old deal. And they sought a system where even the smallest-market clubs could compete, believing the current system would always favor the teams who could spend the most.
Posted Nov 14 2011 10:30AM - Updated Nov 14 2011 2:19PM
• Labor Central
• Comparing the offers
• Stern's memo to players with complete offer (PDF)
NEW YORK (AP) -- The NBA players rejected the league's latest offer Monday and have begun the process to disband the union.
The decision likely jeopardizes the season.
"We're prepared to file this antitrust action against the NBA," union executive director Billy Hunter said. "That's the best situation where players can get their due process."
He said players were not prepared to accept the NBA Commissioner David Stern's ultimatum, saying they thought it was "extremely unfair."
"This is the best decision for the players," union president Derek Fisher said. "I want to reiterate that point, that a lot of individual players have a lot of things personally at stake in terms of their careers and where they stand. And right now they feel it's important -- we all feel it's important to all our players, not just the ones in this room, but our entire group -- that we not only try to get a deal done for today but for the body of NBA players that will come into this league over the next decade and beyond."
Hunter said players were not prepared to accept the NBA Commissioner David Stern's ultimatum, saying they thought it was "extremely unfair."
In its latest offer, the league had proposed a 72-game season beginning Dec. 15.
On Sunday, the league made a very public push on the positives of the deal -- hosting a 90-minute twitter chat to answer questions from players and fans, posting a YouTube video to explain the key points and sending a memo from Stern to players urging them to "study our proposal carefully, and to accept it as a fair compromise of the issues between us."
In the memo, posted on the league's Web site, Stern highlighted points of the deal and asked players to focus on the compromises the league made during negotiations, such as dropping its demands for a hard salary cap, non-guaranteed contracts and salary rollbacks.
The previous CBA expired at the end of the day June 30. Despite a series of meetings in June, there was never much hope of a deal before that deadline, with owners wanting significant changes after saying they lost $300 million last season and hundreds of millions more in each year of the old agreement, which was ratified in 2005.
Owners wanted to keep more of the league's nearly $4 billion in basketball revenues to themselves after guaranteeing 57 percent to the players under the old deal. And they sought a system where even the smallest-market clubs could compete, believing the current system would always favor the teams who could spend the most.
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BlackAX410
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This shit is fuckin corny I aint on nobody's side real shit it hurts cuz I'ma hardcore NBA fan but this season aint happening now i gotta force myself to watch wack ass college basketball nd hockey
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its over: 2012!;3710501 said:SAS is a coon-gauge. I hope p,ayers are listening to him, to understand an example of what NOT to do here.
he's telling them the truth... Those owners are billionaire/hundred millionaire men; they can play the waiting game ALOT longer then those players can
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The problem here is that after rejecting the deal the players will lose in the court of public opinion. What I don't understand is why didn't the players submit the proposal to a vote among all members.
The average White person will take the "overpaid nigga" route and immediately swear to never support the NBA again.
The average White person will take the "overpaid nigga" route and immediately swear to never support the NBA again.
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its over: 2012!;3710561 said:Doesn't Matter.
It ain't a game, to the players. That's what you NBA fans refuse to sit back, and respect, because you just want to see some basketball.
we'll see how this court case plays out... If they loose in court they are f*cked and are gonna wish they took that 50/50 deal
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its over: 2012!;3710561 said:Doesn't Matter.
It ain't a game, to the players. That's what you NBA fans refuse to sit back, and respect, because you just want to see some basketball.
Cosign, the current players now have to look out for the future players too. The NBA owners dropped the ball, why should the players pay for their ineptness.
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The NBA season is officially on the brink. All its guaranteed contracts. Its Larry Bird rights. Its league-average salaries projected to go from $5.5 million to more than $7 million by Year 7 of the deal.
No one's arguing that it's ideal for the players. But it's better than nothing.
If you're one of 400-plus players devoid of the financial security harnessed by Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, LeBron James and others, why find out the worse-case scenario when you don't have to?
Particularly with bill collectors knocking at your door asking, "What can you do for me?"
Follow Stephen A. Smith on Twitter: @stephenasmith
Hope it works out for them but they are playing with fire.
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