Latino gang members firebombed black residents to drive them out of Boyle Heights project, prosecuto

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Eventually black families started moving back to Ramona Gardens, a sign of progress in a community and a city that had largely put aside the violence of the 1990s. But even then, a gang said to no longer hold the sway that it once did tried to intimidate black residents into leaving. Some threats were verbal. Others came in the form of slurs, like the one written in the dust accumulated on the car of one black resident. In at least one case, a rock was flung through a window.

Still, things seemed to be improving, until two years ago when Molotov cocktails were thrown at the four apartments in Ramona Gardens. Police said they strongly suspected the attacks were racially motivated. At least one resident said at the time that she would ask for an emergency transfer out of the complex, though she noted that things had been calm until the fiery attack. Others insisted they would stay.

At the time of the 2014 attack there were 23 black families living in Ramona Gardens. As of this February, 3% of Ramona Gardens residents were African American, according to the L.A. city housing authority.

The 25-page indictment unsealed Thursday alleges that a sophisticated level of planning went into the attack and describes Big Hazard’s longstanding efforts to scare African Americans away from the project. Gang members would “monitor the activity” of African Americans and threaten those who lived in Ramona Gardens “that they risked harm if they remained,” according to the indictment.

The attack was discussed at a gang meeting in early May 2014, prosecutors allege, where Carlos Hernandez, 31, told gang members that they would use Molotov cocktails to firebomb apartments where black families lived. On May 11 — Mother’s Day — the group met again to plan the attack, according to the indictment.

At that second meeting, prosecutors allege, Hernandez assigned each gang member a specific job: breaking apartment windows, lighting the devices, throwing them inside. He also handed out disguises and gloves, the indictment said.

The group didn’t carry their cellphones so police couldn’t track their movements, prosecutors alleged, and purposely followed a route through Ramona Gardens where security cameras couldn’t record them.

Shortly after midnight, prosecutors allege the group drove into the project and attacked four apartments. In one, the firebomb landed on a couch where a woman and her baby had been sleeping moments earlier, according to the indictment. The woman moved when she heard the window break.

None of the families were hurt in the attacks. Prosecutors said Hernandez cut his arm on broken glass while throwing one of the Molotov cocktails and went to a hospital for treatment.

The threats didn’t stop with the attack, according to the indictment. In September 2014, prosecutors allege, one of the gang members confronted a family and “warned that they should leave Ramona Gardens or that they too would get firebombed.”

On Thursday, Irena Vega sat outside her Ramona Gardens apartment and recalled a firebombing in the 1990s that targeted a black family. As the apartment burned, she said, the family managed to escape with their children through the kitchen.

They were the only black family Vega remembers living in the housing project at the time.

“They left,” she said.

Vega and her 12-year-old grandson said more black families have moved into the housing project, which they said has become safer thanks to increased police patrols and the installation of security cameras. Gang members aren’t as common, Vega added.

“The gangs were heavy around here,” she said. “Now they aren’t.”

Rosa Gonzalez, another longtime resident, agreed that more black families were living at Ramona Gardens and that it was safer. But, she said, the gang still lingers.

“Some are dead, some are in jail, some left," she said. "The gang is small, but it hasn't gone away."
 
But but but black and brown people are in the same struggle fuck those taco eating fuckers in the words of G Money "we all we got"
 
All this shit is real. And down played as fuck in LA. Niggas out here really try to pretend like that vast majority of Mexicans (older but a smaller portion of younger) think we're less than dirt, just cu they got a few Mexican homies.

there's been race riots at many of the high schools in la, including one just 2 or 3 months ago... The guy from machete spoke at the parent teacher conference.

But the root of the issue is that there is a spills over of the prison politics of the Mexican mafia that controls to an extent the SUR13 Gangs, which then influences behaviors within schools, which is often racially segregated sharply like prisons, with school staff even enforcing that to an extent. I lived through the shit myself. Riots and everything
 
Abraxas ;9166743 said:
All this shit is real. And down played as fuck in LA. Niggas out here really try to pretend like that vast majority of Mexicans (older but a smaller portion of younger) think we're less than dirt, just cu they got a few Mexican homies.

there's been race riots at many of the high schools in la, including one just 2 or 3 months ago... The guy from machete spoke at the parent teacher conference.

But the root of the issue is that there is a spills over of the prison politics of the Mexican mafia that controls to an extent the SUR13 Gangs, which then influences behaviors within schools, which is often racially segregated sharply like prisons, with school staff even enforcing that to an extent. I lived through the shit myself. Riots and everything

Them SUR13 niggas do not like me wherever I go. I don't bang but I grew up with hella XIV members. Call them scraps and watch they eyes light up.
 
Abraxas ;9166743 said:
All this shit is real. And down played as fuck in LA. Niggas out here really try to pretend like that vast majority of Mexicans (older but a smaller portion of younger) think we're less than dirt, just cu they got a few Mexican homies.

there's been race riots at many of the high schools in la, including one just 2 or 3 months ago... The guy from machete spoke at the parent teacher conference.

But the root of the issue is that there is a spills over of the prison politics of the Mexican mafia that controls to an extent the SUR13 Gangs, which then influences behaviors within schools, which is often racially segregated sharply like prisons, with school staff even enforcing that to an extent. I lived through the shit myself. Riots and everything

u aint neva lied..

iunno bout the SUR13 but i know about the G13s in gardena.. and Lennox.. we had a major riot every other yr from Middle School on up..

mexicans are only embolded when they outnumber u on some 6:1 or more shit which brings into questions why would niggas move into Boyle Heights of all places!!?
 
Abraxas ;9166743 said:
All this shit is real. And down played as fuck in LA. Niggas out here really try to pretend like that vast majority of Mexicans (older but a smaller portion of younger) think we're less than dirt, just cu they got a few Mexican homies.

there's been race riots at many of the high schools in la, including one just 2 or 3 months ago... The guy from machete spoke at the parent teacher conference.

But the root of the issue is that there is a spills over of the prison politics of the Mexican mafia that controls to an extent the SUR13 Gangs, which then influences behaviors within schools, which is often racially segregated sharply like prisons, with school staff even enforcing that to an extent. I lived through the shit myself. Riots and everything

Yeah, this is what I've heard, read, and seen. Black-and-brown relations generally don't seem to be the best in L.A., particularly in some areas in SoCal apparently. Those surenos are worse than the neo-nazis in all kinds of ways. It's no wonder that they clique up with the aryan brotherhood in prison.
 
These are illegals, and why I don't get why many support them. Most Latinos are cool as fuck, but illegals harbor tons of racism from their home countries and are all about La Raza.
 
ThaNubianGod;9167095 said:
These are illegals, and why I don't get why many support them. Most Latinos are cool as fuck, but illegals harbor tons of racism from their home countries and are all about La Raza.

Exactly. don't be a chump vote 4 trump! build that damn wall now!!!!!

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Abraxas ;9166743 said:
All this shit is real. And down played as fuck in LA. Niggas out here really try to pretend like that vast majority of Mexicans (older but a smaller portion of younger) think we're less than dirt, just cu they got a few Mexican homies.

there's been race riots at many of the high schools in la, including one just 2 or 3 months ago... The guy from machete spoke at the parent teacher conference.

But the root of the issue is that there is a spills over of the prison politics of the Mexican mafia that controls to an extent the SUR13 Gangs, which then influences behaviors within schools, which is often racially segregated sharply like prisons, with school staff even enforcing that to an extent. I lived through the shit myself. Riots and everything

u aint neva lied..

iunno bout the SUR13 but i know about the G13s in gardena.. and Lennox.. we had a major riot every other yr from Middle School on up..

mexicans are only embolded when they outnumber u on some 6:1 or more shit which brings into questions why would niggas move into Boyle Heights of all places!!?

Sur 13 represents all the Mexican gangs south of Bakersfield. But yea bruh I've never know a black person to live in Boyle heights. I know why now but Boyle heights is atleast 90% Mexican and that's conservative.

I'm not in east la if I don't have to be
 
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Abraxas ;9166743 said:
All this shit is real. And down played as fuck in LA. Niggas out here really try to pretend like that vast majority of Mexicans (older but a smaller portion of younger) think we're less than dirt, just cu they got a few Mexican homies.

there's been race riots at many of the high schools in la, including one just 2 or 3 months ago... The guy from machete spoke at the parent teacher conference.

But the root of the issue is that there is a spills over of the prison politics of the Mexican mafia that controls to an extent the SUR13 Gangs, which then influences behaviors within schools, which is often racially segregated sharply like prisons, with school staff even enforcing that to an extent. I lived through the shit myself. Riots and everything

This is more then real. We had Mexicans in our hood and we pushed them out. From the 30s - 100s on the west side we have no Mexicans in the hood. We're tired of there fuck shit and NHCs are MexicanK now
 

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