Kobe Iz Betta Than Jordan

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chuck cooner;7653 said:
Son you sound mad stupid. Why was mike dominating this generation in his last comeback?? He was 40 years old dropping 51 and 45 points. He averaged 20 PPG 5 ANd 5 at age 40!!!! NOBODY In history ever averaged that much.It was only 2003 when he retired.1st u say 7 footers was'nt shooting 3's then you say Hall of famers like isiah,reggie miller and drexler were'nt as good as todays players.NIGGA PLEASE.

Mike made scottie a top 50 player.Kobe made NOONE better lakers were a 7th seed 2 years straight before they got Gasol.Mike made Everybody he played with better

dunn dunn....for every one star you name....i can name 20 today. the average player back then was more fundamentally sound & knew the game of basketball & the technical aspect. But, the average player today is a mix of basketball player & robot. Isaiah Thomas would get murdered by Wade/CP3/Rose/Young A.I. & if you disagree....then....smh. I mean, I agree with you in some aspects.......But, I just dont understand how you can sit here & honestly tell me, there were better players in the 90s....namely at the guard/sf position when NONE OF THE NIGGAS YOU LISTING ARE BETTER THEN WADE OR LEBRON OR MELO.........If Jordan had to play against all of them n1ggas he wouldnt got 6 rings in a ROW. And scust at you acting like 20 ppg is UNUSUAL for Jordan. I NEVER SAID JORDAN WAS A BUM. HE'S STILL JORDAN. AND HE WAS STILL GONNA BE GREAT REGARDLESS BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST TO EVER WALK THIS PLANET. But, if Jordan had to play in TODAY'S LEAGUE WITH ALL OF THIS TALENT, ESPECIALLY AT HIS POSITION, HE WOULDNT GET 6 RINGS. NO WAY IN HELL.
 
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Maalik;7680 said:
dunn dunn....for every one star you name....i can name 20 today. the average player back then was more fundamentally sound & knew the game of basketball & the technical aspect. But, the average player today is a mix of basketball player & robot. Isaiah Thomas would get murdered by Wade/CP3/Rose/Young A.I. & if you disagree....then....smh. I mean, I agree with you in some aspects.......But, I just dont understand how you can sit here & honestly tell me, there were better players in the 90s....namely at the guard/sf position when NONE OF THE NIGGAS YOU LISTING ARE BETTER THEN WADE OR LEBRON OR MELO.........If Jordan had to play against all of them n1ggas he wouldnt got 6 rings in a ROW. And scust at you acting like 20 ppg is UNUSUAL for Jordan. I NEVER SAID JORDAN WAS A BUM. HE'S STILL JORDAN. AND HE WAS STILL GONNA BE GREAT REGARDLESS BECAUSE HE WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST TO EVER WALK THIS PLANET. But, if Jordan had to play in TODAY'S LEAGUE WITH ALL OF THIS TALENT, ESPECIALLY AT HIS POSITION, HE WOULDNT GET 6 RINGS. NO WAY IN HELL.

with the way the rules hinder defensive players... shit, Mike would be cooking today and winning... Jordan's will to win>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe's will to win>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else
 
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kobe better
 
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How can people say MJ didnt make the Wizards better when they won 19 games the season before he got there and 37 the next season?
 
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Maalik;7626 said:
SMH @ half of the players being from the 80s. I SAID THE 90S. MAN. THE 90S. JORDAN HAD NO COMPETITION DURING THE 90S BECAUSE THE GUARD/SF POSITION WASN'T AS STRONG AS THE GUARD/SF POSITION THAT KOBE HAS TO DEAL WITH. HOW DIFFICULT IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND. AINT NONE OF THE NIGGAS (NOT COUNTING MAGIC/BIRD/DR.J/MOST OF THEM NIGGAS BECAUSE I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM) ON THAT LIST SEEING LEBRON, CARMELLO & WADE, NIGGAS THAT KOBE!!!!!!! HAS TO PLAY AGAINST. HOW HARD IS THAT SHIT TO COMPREHEND. I SAID JORDAN HAD NO COMPETITION IN THE 90S......FROM 91-98.......THE YEARS HE WAS DOMINATING & NIGGAS UP HERE, PUTTING DR. J, MAGIC JOHNSON, LARRY BIRD & PLAYERS FROM THE PISTONS.........DUMBASS..........THEY PLAYED IN THE 80S & RETIRED BEFORE JORDAN'S RUN

1st ...off even in da 80's jordan dominated bird,magic & isiah (so whats ur point)

2nd ...if u talking bout 90's G & SF
j. stocken
g. payton
r. miller
d. wilkins
c. drelex
j. worthy
all HOFers or gonna 2 be
plus add in those muti-allstar/all NBA team players
tim hardaway
penny
spree
starks
kevin johnson
chris mullion
etc...etc....

finally ...kobe era had only a few big man...and shaq was with him for most of dem years -if kobe played in jordan era, when da NBA let niggaz play DEF, he would have gotton his punk azz kicked
i'd love to see kobe try to drive in da paint pass anthony mason then charles oakley then pat ewing -his azz would be on da floor every time

I'M SORRY @ TELL U, this era of the NBA is SOFT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!kobe wasn't built for da 80's & 90's NBA
 
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Maalik;5544 said:
People kill me with saying you cant be better until you have more Awards/Rings/MVPs.....Nigga Robert Horry has 5 rings. Robert fucking Horry. Every single Player is gonna have a different career, different trail/path/career trajectory, different things that may effect their career....therefore, not every player is gonna have the same credentials on EVERY LITTLE FUCKIN THING.....you have to measure by something more efficient than that

Thats because nobody would ever be stupid enough to try and argue that. Who in their right mind would try and argue that Robert Horry is better than an obviously superior player just because he has five rings?
 
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Kobe better than Jordan?

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Niggas will never give Kobe his props. He just gotta keep playing and let his career do the talking for him when its all said & done.
 
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PapaJuice;5373 said:
u kno any good moves that look pretty to pull off in b ball?

ya kno, im tryin to look sexy & play b ball

real talk, tho

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lol that's my joint.....but real talk in my opinion D-Wade>Kobe......the lakers aren't looking too hot right now anyway
 
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vageneral08;9537 said:
lol that's my joint.....but real talk in my opinion D-Wade>Kobe......the lakers aren't looking too hot right now anyway

yeah they lookin like shit with the best record in the L : /
 
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You know that Kobe could have 30 more game winners this season a championship an MVP and average 38 points per game this season, and jordan would STILL be considered the better player of all time, right? @ thread shock starter
 
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If Kobe get 5 or more Rings....I wont be able to understand HOW NIGGAS CANT CONSIDER him on Jordan's Level without Biases being involved
 
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Maalik;10590 said:
If Kobe get 5 or more Rings....I wont be able to understand HOW NIGGAS CANT CONSIDER him on Jordan's Level without Biases being involved

Theres a difference between same level and better than Jordan. Right now he's at the same level, but not better than Jordan. Pure unbiasness here cuz they're both in my top 5.
 
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b*braze;10382 said:
yeah they lookin like shit with the best record in the L : /

lol that dont mean shit now they still got 50+ more games to play.....getting they ass whooped by cleveland barely beating the kings and the bucks them niggas dont look good at all I bet ya they wont up with the best record by the end of the season
 
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airafroman;5370 said:
It is what it is... Jordan is always goin 2 have more of an impact on The NBA than Kobe... but Kobe have surpassed him skill wise i kno it's hard 2 swallow...

some of y'all might argue that kobe got alot of MJ in his DNA, which is true...but the O.Gs was saying the same thing about Mike when he 1st came in the leauge,and Julius was leaving... that MJ had alot of Dr. J in his D.N.A which is also true...

Kobe is just damn... no one in the league is seeing homie right now, TMac fell of A.I. fell off, Vince kind of fell off, Lebron is 5 steps behind Kobe and i know Kobe fillz disrespected when muthafuckaz act like Lebron is on his level, Lebron is mostly hype and is just as good as Dwayne,Melo,Chris Paul, And Kevin Durant.. Kobe is simply in a leauge of his own..

close thread..kobe is my fave player...but jordan is better...hes da closest to MJ though....
 
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Main difference between Mike and Kobe is this. Kobe makes tougher shots than MJ. MJ took easier shots. He was able to get in the spot he wanted often so the shots he took was easier. Kobe has the nack to make tough shots ( not that MJ didnt ) but MJ was able to be as/more effective with less effort than Kobe.

MJ>KOBE
 
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vageneral08;12841 said:
lol that dont mean shit now they still got 50+ more games to play.....getting they ass whooped by cleveland barely beating the kings and the bucks them niggas dont look good at all I bet ya they wont up with the best record by the end of the season

Lmao... 50 games and 1 championship later, you still think they lookin bad?
 
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kobe my favorite player of all time but imma never say he better than MJ, even though i believe skill wise Kobe is better. MJ accomplishments and achievements thoroughly outweighs Kobe
 
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