chuck cooner;6024 said:
Sam perkins,vlade divac,detlef shremph were all shooting 3's and they all 6'11 and up arvidas sabonis was shooting 3's and he was a 7'3 center.Dog u dont know shit about ball and I dont respect shit u sayin,It's obvious u aint up to par on nba history homie.TODAYS players with no true big men no Centers like david robinson,Ewing,hakeem,.Only true big men in the whole league are yao,shaq and duncan GTFOH Nigga u act like big men just started jackin 3's in 2007 or some shit perkins hit a 3 to win the game in the 91 finals.Did u forget Bill laimbeer too?? 7'1 jackin 3's.HAHAHAHA Clueless nigga todays players are more atheletic but hardly any can play ball fundamentally,thats why todays games are so boring a bunch of niggas dribblin in place and jackin wild shots or drivin and dunkin no akeem moves no skyhooks no ewing jumpers no defense.Get ya knowledge up yo opinion wack I 'm thru with this shit it's a waste everything I said killed any argument, facts always do
chuck cooner;6024 said:
Sam perkins,vlade divac,detlef shremph were all shooting 3's and they all 6'11 and up arvidas sabonis was shooting 3's and he was a 7'3 center.Dog u dont know shit about ball and I dont respect shit u sayin,It's obvious u aint up to par on nba history homie.TODAYS players with no true big men no Centers like david robinson,Ewing,hakeem,.Only true big men in the whole league are yao,shaq and duncan GTFOH Nigga u act like big men just started jackin 3's in 2007 or some shit perkins hit a 3 to win the game in the 91 finals.Did u forget Bill laimbeer too?? 7'1 jackin 3's.HAHAHAHA Clueless nigga todays players are more atheletic but hardly any can play ball fundamentally,thats why todays games are so boring a bunch of niggas dribblin in place and jackin wild shots or drivin and dunkin no akeem moves no skyhooks no ewing jumpers no defense.Get ya knowledge up yo opinion wack I 'm thru with this shit it's a waste everything I said killed any argument, facts always do
youz a dumb negro man. For one, Kobe is a BETTER scorer than Mike. He always will be. Stats will never show that. Any sports analyst worth his weight, knows you CANNOT takes stats for face value, because unlike what Jayz said, numbers can lie. You have to interpret the data. For example, Most people will agree that Kobe is a better shooter than Jordan. However, Jordan has a higher stats. Now when most people look at that, they'll just assume Jordan is better because the STATS SAID SO. But, if you interpret the data & actually go further into the individual's career, you'd see things to make you see otherwise. Such as, the FACT THAT KOBE CAME INTO AN ALL STAR TEAM, DID NOT START HIS FIRST YEAR, NOR BECOME A HUGE PART IN HIS TEAM UNTIL 2-3 YEARS AFTER BEING DRAFTED & EVEN THEN, HAD TO SHARE THE SPOTLIGHT WITH SHAQ. HIS NUMBERS WILL ALWAYS BE LESS THAN JORDAN SIMPLY BECAUSE HE STARTED OFF BEHIND. Jordan came into a bum ass Bulls Team & therefore, was open & free to dominate & grow alot faster & quicker. ANOTHER WAY TO SHOW HOW STATS CAN LIE & HOW ITZ SOMETIMES GOOD TO LOOK CLOSELY AT THE DATA IS LEBRON JAMES. Alot of people say Lebron is better than Kobe because he has a higher stats . That may be true but, people miracously tend to leave out the fact that Lebron has ONLY PLAYED FOR 6 YEARS. IF ANY OF YOU TOOK SIMPLE ALGEBRA, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT LEBRON'S AVERAGE WOULD & SHOULD BE HIGHER BECAUSE HE'S PLAYED FOR LESS SEASONS, NOT HAVING TIME TO DIP OFF/MOVE AWAY FROM HIS PRIME/GET INJURED. Kobe's played for 13 years.
I SAID THE PERIMETER/GUARD PLAYERS OF THE 90S WEREN'T ON THE SAME LEVEL ON THE PERIMETER/GUARD PLAYERS OF TODAY & YOU COUNTERED THAT ARGUMENT BY SAYING VLADE DIVAC, DAVID ROBINSON & MAGIC JOHNSON. Why am I even arguing with you? Youz a damn dummy. First off, David Robinson nor Vlade Divac was a guard. They played Center. You know the tall person on the court to break it down for you. I NEVER ONCE SAID THE CENTERS WERE SOFT. SO I DONT EVEN KNOW WHY YOU SAID THAT. 2nd, Magic Johnson wasnt even around for Jordan to play in the 90s. He retired in the early 90s, i think 91. How the fuck does that even factor into the argument. THEN YOU SAID, PENNY HARDAWAY/GRANT HILL WERE JUST AS GOOD AS THE PLAYERS TODAY. Okay, let's see, Penny Hardaway had potential but, flamed out. Didnt do anything substantial. Grant Hill was a god at North Carolina & couldve been one of the greats but, HE GOT INJURED & NEVER RETURNED TO HIS PREVIOUS FORMS. WHILE I SEE WHERE YOU WERE TRYING TO GET AT, ITZ JUST STUPID TO SAY THOSE TWO, BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW MUCH """""POTENTIAL""""" THEY HAD, THEY DID NOT BECOME ANYWHERE CLOSE THE STARS I AM TALKING ABOUT TODAY...........IF YOU ARE REALLY SAYING THAT PENNY HARDAWAY >>>> DWAYNE WADE, LEBRON JAMES, CARMELLO ANTHONY & KEVIN DURANT THEN PLEASE GO TO THE CLINIC & GET CHECKED OUT CUZ THAT SYPHILLIS IS STARTING TO FUCK WITH YOUR MIND.
You also said Kobe is wack because he got denied in the First Round of the playoffs 3 times before he got Pau & eventually won. Nigga!!!!!! do you even know what you're talking about. Jordan got denied for 7 FUCKING YEARS until he got Pippen, which I might add, was A WAY FUCKIN BETTER PLAYER THAN PAU GASOL. PIPPEN WAS A TOP 50 NBA PLAYER OF ALL TIME. PAU GASOL IS A CENTER FROM EUROPE. Either you're stupid or retarded, i hope retarded because then, I could feel bad for you. I just dont understand how you can clown Kobe for not making the finals all those years when the same exact thing happened to Jordan during the late 80s/early 90s.
You also said Kobe is NOT BETTER than Jordan because he doesnt have more awards. But, then you said LEBRON/WADE WAS BETTER THAN KOBE. How the fuck can Kobe not be better than Jordan because he only had 4 rings instead of 6 BUT LEBRON IS BETTER WITH 0 RINGS. GTFOH.
You also said THE AVERAGE GUARD/PERIMETER PLAYER OF THE 90S WAS BETTER THAN THE AVERAGE GUARD/PERIMETER PLAYER OF TODAY......GO HEAD, TELL ME WHO DUMB AZZ. I'LL TELL YOU WHO TODAY IS SHITTING ON THEM:
Chris Paul.....Guard
Deron Williams.....Guard
Brandon Roy.....Guard
Derrick Rose.....Guard
Rajon Rondon.....Guard
Dwayne Wade....Guard
Kobe Bryant....Guard
Paul Pierce....Guard
Gilbert Arenas....Guard
Rashawn Lewis....Guard.....who's also 6"9 - 6"10
Lebron James....SF, but, plays everything
Carmello Anthony.....SF, but, last time i checked he guards Kobe, especially during Last Year's playoff battle
Ron Artest....SF, before the trade, he guarded Kobe EVERY GAME
Manu Ginobli....Guard
Richard Jefferson....Guard/SF
Kevin Durant.......SF
Tyreke Evans.....Guard
Kevin Martin....Guard
Brandon Jennings....Guard
Michael Redd......Guard
Cmon son. The only cat in the 90s besides Jordan who was a Guard who was AS GOOD as them is Gary Payton. Cmon son. There is NO WAY IN HELL you're gonna tell me there were better Guards/Perimeter players back in the 90s. These are the monsters Kobe HAS TO PLAY AGAINST. SOME OF THESE NIGGAS BEING 6"10 & HONESTLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN POWER FORWARDS. cmon son. Who was guarding Jordan.....John Starks, Byron Russell......GTFOH.
Also, in the 90s, there were usually just one - two stars on everyteam. In The 90s ONLY. Im not talking about The 80s Lakers, Celtics or Pistons because they were STACKED. Im talking about the WEAK ASS DECADE OF THE 90S. You name every team during that time period & you can only come up with maybe two stars. IN TODAY'S LEAGUE THERE ARE ATLEAST 4, MAYBE 5 STARS ON EACH FUCKIN TEAM.
KOBE IS BETTER THAN JORDAN, BECAUSE HE NOT ONLY IS A BETTER SCORER, BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE GAME, HE'S ONLY 31, HAS 4 RINGS, DID THINGS/STILL DOES THINGS EVERYNIGHT THAT JORDAN NEVER DID, PLAYS IN A MUCH HARDER NBA (FOH WITH THE 90S, BEING ABLE TO FOUL & PUNCH NIGGAS IN THE FACE WITHOUT GETTING A TECHNICAL DOESNT MAKE IT BETTER) BECAUSE THE TALENT LEVEL ON EVERY TEAM IS BETTER & YET HE'S STILL DOMINATING......CMON SON. YOU HAVE NO FUCKIN CLUE ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. EVEN PHIL JACKSON CANT DECIDE BETWEEN THE TWO.
EVEN JORDAN SAID HE DIDNT PLAY AGAINST BEST & YOU'RE STILL ARGUING FOR HIM.......LMAO.