Know Your Rights: What To Do If You're Stopped By Police, Immigration Agents or FBI

[edeeesq]

Yes, white Americans have the ability to exercise their constitutional rights....

 

[And Step]

Yeah, communism works in theory...

The only thing missing are the words "White people" in front of Know Your rights.

 

[Plutarch]

wow, I'm a pretty cynical guy myself but you guys are just pessimistic. good luck with that state of mind...

 

[And Step]

wow, I'm a pretty cynical guy myself but you guys are just pessimistic. good luck with that state of mind...

I am not pessimistic.

I am very optimistic that shit only counts on paper. I am under no illusions that this means anything in the real world, especially when you got the negro/cop dynamic thingy going. It is much safer and realistic that way. I mean you are safer if you just start busting back apparently. You can't lay down on the ground they will Rodney King you. You can't run with your back facing you, they will (insert name of random Negro shot in the back) you. You can't face them and try to explain they will say you have a dark shiny object in your hand.

Don't need luck just preparation and sense.

God Bless you, Plutarch.

 

[aijalon]

Yes, white Americans have the ability to exercise their constitutional rights....

For emphasis............................

 

[edeeesq]

wow, I'm a pretty cynical guy myself but you guys are just pessimistic. good luck with that state of mind...

I'm a very optimistic person, but that has zero to do with the real world. In the REAL world, a white american has more leniency to flex their constitutional rights than a black or hispanic american. Anything deemed as "resistance" will eventually lead to something bad. Just factual....has nothing to do with emotions...

 

[im_lux]

Yeah, communism works in theory...

The only thing missing are the words "White people" in front of Know Your rights.

I'm black. Deal with my lawyer on a day to day basis and I talk to him about rights. Just this last year I stopped consenting to searches and letting police enter my car or my house period. It works ever since I've started doing it I don't get searched at all and don't get detained unless I've been arrested. You just gotta be careful HOW you say some things. If you say it the wrong way you could end up having a few issues.

But real shit I'm pulled over a lot. I've gotten arrested a lot. SO FAR since I started doing this I've had less problems with police than I've ever had other than being pulled over.

But then again I don't ride around like I'm some dope dealin thug type nigga neither. Don't put rims on my car don't keep a system in my shit no more got a nice lookin car ect ect...some of you fools be ridin around in old school crown vics wit exposed primer 28 inch rims beatin down the block wit a blunt in your mouth and sunglasses at 1am...what do ya'll think was gone happen?

 

[waterproof]

this should be a sticky, so many people dont know their rights because 1) their lazy and dont care or 2) they was never taught and we know schools dont teach nothing

 

[And Step]

But real shit I'm pulled over a lot. I've gotten arrested a lot. SO FAR since I started doing this I've had less problems with police than I've ever had other than being pulled over.

Definitely not taking your advice.

 

[Cabana_Da_Don]

Yeah, communism works in theory...

The only thing missing are the words "White people" in front of Know Your rights.

Why did I laugh at this.

 

[im_lux]

Definitely not taking your advice.

Don't but it works and it's within your rights. If you niggaz is too scared to try and exercise your rights then that's on you but I'm not finna freeze up just cause some white dude wit an attitude got a badge. Thats how they get away with it. They know niggaz like yourself are too frightened of the police to tell tell them you know what they're supposed to be doing and what they're not.

Talk to a lawyer if you got to raise your confidence level...try it next time...say no to the police sometime.

 

[And Step]

Don't but it works and it's within your rights. If you niggaz is too scared to try and exercise your rights then that's on you but I'm not finna freeze up just cause some white dude wit an attitude got a badge. Thats how they get away with it. They know niggaz like yourself are too frightened of the police to tell tell them you know what they're supposed to be doing and what they're not.

Talk to a lawyer if you got to raise your confidence level...try it next time...say no to the police sometime.

LOL. I was just clowning you man on your proclivity of getting arrested and pulled over yet want to give legal advice. I'm certainly not taking any advice from DMX. Save the money you give your lawyer because obviously the shits not working. LOL

It's niggas like you that keep the judges, lawyers, and cops in their club memberships together. They probably discussing you right now in the steam room. Sharing a stogey with they nuts swangin.

 

[Hyde Parke]

lmao@ andstep.

this thread shoulda been posted in the Growing Pains section. if you're grown and dont know this basic shit, i dont know what to say.
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and all that rights shit goes out the door if they have probable cause of anything, which will always be the case.

 

[im_lux]

LOL. I was just clowning you man on your proclivity of getting arrested and pulled over yet want to give legal advice. I'm certainly not taking any advice from DMX. Save the money you give your lawyer because obviously the shits not working. LOL

It's niggas like you that keep the judges, lawyers, and cops in their club memberships together. They probably discussing you right now in the steam room. Sharing a stogey with they nuts swangin.

Getting arrested and being convicted are two different situations. Getting pulled over and being arrested are two different situations. And every time I've been arrested I've gotten arrested on some shit I've done and got caught red handed. I'm not disputing that at all. But I've NEVER once been arrested as a result of a search or my rights violated at all. Never once have I had my car or my house searched after speaking with my lawyer about this. As a matter of fact speaking of lawyers my lawyer actually got me out of a 15 do 10 that was caught on camera, my lawyer is on point.

Technically my lawyer is retained. However money doesn't leave my hands at all.

And yes I get pulled over...I'm a younger black man in a nice car I typically have to be in very "pale" areas of town AND OR when I'm in the "darker" areas of town (mostly latenight early am) I always get pulled over close to the hotel areas.

Oh and just so you know say what you want about a "DMX" type nigga but it's some jailhouse lawyer types that know laws and rights front and back and apparently a bit better than yourself. Snap judgement ain't really working for you right now.

 

[major pain]

lmao@ andstep.

this thread shoulda been posted in the Growing Pains section. if you're grown and dont know this basic shit, i dont know what to say.
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and all that rights shit goes out the door if they have probable cause of anything, which will always be the case.

Good thread, but I agree. People should take some time and get basic education on the law.

 

[Plutarch]

I am not pessimistic.

I am very optimistic that shit only counts on paper. I am under no illusions that this means anything in the real world, especially when you got the negro/cop dynamic thingy going. It is much safer and realistic that way. I mean you are safer if you just start busting back apparently.

But that’s simply not true. Maybe that’s true sometimes. But it’s certainly not true all of the time. I think that you’re exaggerating here. Not every cop is a criminal, and not every black individual will be treated like shit by the cops. Even if the cops do you wrong while you exercise your rights, you can still attain some kind of justice if you remained a law abiding citizen. Another important piece of what I posted was that you can receive help from not only your lawyer, but also from friends and family (especially if you don’t trust your lawyer). You can also keep a record of everything that went down with a given cop. You can also file a complaint. You can also contact the American Civil Liberties Union. You can also go public with it. Hell, you can do a Rodney King and videotape the whole episode. Someone pointed out another extremely helpful tip – you can also make sure that when you get stopped that you stop at a well lit area. Also, you can demand a cop to identify himself and inspect his badge. All this points to the fact that a citizen is not much different than a cop as far as status and power goes, and that said citizen has rights that can empower and protect him from dirty law enforcement. But the problem is that a lot of people don’t know this.

Knowing your rights is one of the most powerful bits of knowledge you can have and use in America. Especially as black man or woman, so I don’t see how you can even imply that it’s theoretical or ineffectual.

I truly think that all of this falls in line with the fact that Tupac, a black man, shot and wounded two off duty cops and got off scot free and never served any time. Why? Because he exercised his rights (albeit regarding self-defense) as an American citizen. Now, shooting dirty cops in self defense is a worst case scenario. But for less tense scenarios, using your right to remain silent, etc, are equally effective solutions.

You can't lay down on the ground they will Rodney King you.

That’s an overstatement, and that’s certainly not true all of the time. Especially if you follow the advice that I posted. Again, I think that you are exaggerating.

You can't run with your back facing you, they will (insert name of random Negro shot in the back) you.

Generally, if you are a law abiding citizen, there is no need to run. If you are a criminal on the run, then if you want to risk running, that’s up to you. But the same rules apply, if there is sufficient evidence that a cop shot an unarmed suspect in the back without probable reason, then he can and will be fired from his job and may (and should) serve time. And yes, this has happened.

You can't face them and try to explain they will say you have a dark shiny object in your hand.

This seems like an overstatement but I’m not sure I understand you here. What would said person be trying to explain?

Don't need luck just preparation and sense.

I agree. But preparation and sense to me means knowing and exercising your rights though.

God Bless you, Plutarch.

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[Plutarch]

I'm a very optimistic person, but that has zero to do with the real world. In the REAL world, a white american has more leniency to flex their constitutional rights than a black or hispanic american.

Ok, I may even agree with the statement in the bold. But let's not exaggerate. That still doesn't negate the fact that Black Americans can and should flex their rights as well, and certainly many (but not enough) have done so with successful results. And let's not forget that non-cop white dudes can and have been shitted on by cops in the same way non-cop black dudes have been shitted on by cops. It's no surprise that cops don't like young folk.

Anything deemed as "resistance" will eventually lead to something bad. Just factual....has nothing to do with emotions...

That's not neccessarily true. Even when it is true, that doesn't mean that it will be bad for you in the end. If you exercise your rights to reasonably leave when a cop stops you, he can get mad and pout, and I guess that that can be considered "something bad", but that's a burden that I can certainly endure.

 

[Plutarch]

Tupac Exercises His Rights to Self Defense Against Two Dirty Cops

[video=youtube;eUBw3DzYDNk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUBw3DzYDNk[/video]

How To Not Deal With A Cop (Say What You Will, But The Cop Was Not At Fault Here, The Brother Acted A Fool)

[video=youtube;gTPCsxTxqUc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTPCsxTxqUc[/video]

A Correct Way To Deal With A Cop

[video=youtube;0m06uQIonwc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m06uQIonwc[/video]

Comic Relief Provided By Chris Rock

[video=youtube;uj0mtxXEGE8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8[/video]

 

[Plutarch]

I'm black. Deal with my lawyer on a day to day basis and I talk to him about rights. Just this last year I stopped consenting to searches and letting police enter my car or my house period. It works ever since I've started doing it I don't get searched at all and don't get detained unless I've been arrested. You just gotta be careful HOW you say some things. If you say it the wrong way you could end up having a few issues.

But real shit I'm pulled over a lot. I've gotten arrested a lot. SO FAR since I started doing this I've had less problems with police than I've ever had other than being pulled over.

But then again I don't ride around like I'm some dope dealin thug type nigga neither. Don't put rims on my car don't keep a system in my shit no more got a nice lookin car ect ect...some of you fools be ridin around in old school crown vics wit exposed primer 28 inch rims beatin down the block wit a blunt in your mouth and sunglasses at 1am...what do ya'll think was gone happen?

this should be a sticky, so many people dont know their rights because 1) their lazy and dont care or 2) they was never taught and we know schools dont teach nothing

yeah, that's what I'm saying. good posts.

lmao@ andstep.

this thread shoulda been posted in the Growing Pains section. if you're grown and dont know this basic shit, i dont know what to say.

Oh yeah? I guess I shouldve/couldve done that. I love GnS but sometimes they be bullshitting over there. It's like junior high over there sometimes heh.

and all that rights shit goes out the door if they have probable cause of anything, which will always be the case.

Sometimes, yes that is the case. But you can still fight it afterwards if it's debatable. And sometimes, it's very clear that there is no probable cause. And if there is, you can still exercise some other rights like a right to an attorney, to a phone call, to stay silent, etc.

 

[Plutarch]

Great thread, Plu

I wrote a similar-themed piece, that AZ's largest hip-hop newspaper published...but my focus was more along lines of what inner-city, Black males and other minority citizens exuding hip-hop, should do...

to avoid being victimized by Racism's rogue police, when they encounter them.

I recall the most liked portion was regarding being motioned or flashed to pull your vehicle over by racism's cops------when you know youve broken no laws!

I had linked up some of the statutes for the largest cities, detailing how far you can legally drive before being considered fleeing, in order to ensure you stop at a well-lit area where witnesses can clearly see the interaction.

thanks man. good post, especially the bolded.