Jay-Z "Is that your bitch".. Top 15 GOAT diss record or no??

[blackgod813]

Yeah top ten

 

[lethal5]

I was thinking back to high school and how much I fucked wit this song back then. I bought Memphis Bleeks album bc of this song tbh. Now at that time I was listening to it with no context at all. I thought it was just a fire bragging rights type of record. After the whole Jay/Nas beef that had nasirs baby mother carmen in the middle, it was clear that "is that your bitch" was a subliminal track and precursor to "Takeover".


Now as a 30 yr old man, I once again revisited that song and have come to the personal conclusion that it is arguably a top 10 or 15 all time great diss record. Takeover attacked nas' music career and street credibility with some ad hominem attacks in there as well. But with it now being common hip hop knowledge that Jay did indeed fuck nas' bm Carmen, a lot of the bars from that subliminal diss, imo as a grown man with a bm, are WAY more disrespectful than anything said on takeover. Jay went on record and completely exposed the mother of nas' child to those who understood the deeper inner workings of their rivalry.

"Why you home alone? While she out with me, room 112 hotel balcony. Why she say "Jay you can call the house for free". Thats no respect at all, you better check her dawg.....She keep begging me to hit it raw, and you wifed her.... shit, I put the rubber on tighter"

SMH I woulda had to pull that uzi out my army jacket lining and spray Jay, Memphis and missy just for being on that track.

NOTE-- I'm not trying to turn this into the 10000th "who won the beef jay or nas" thread. I'm talking about the merit of this record alone. What do y'all think about this being arguably being one of the most slept on subliminal records ever.

AGREED

I been sayin this shit for years.....

....but I also say "U Wanna Be Me", by Nas dont get nearly the props it deserves.

I know it came out after Ether, but everytime I hear that song, I picture Nas up in the mic booth with a serious ice grill on his face when it was spittin them lyrics.

 

[5 Grand]

No its not a top 10 diss for the same reason SupaUgly isn't a top 10 diss.

Your supposed to attack your opponent, not his girlfriend.

Ether was aimed at Jay Z. Not his girl, mother, aunt, niece, etc.

By attacking his girl/bm it means he couldn't think of anything to say to Nas.

 

[MrCrookedLetter]

Timbaland killed this beat

 

[Nah Son]

No its not a top 10 diss for the same reason SupaUgly isn't a top 10 diss.

Your supposed to attack your opponent, not his girlfriend.

Ether was aimed at Jay Z. Not his girl, mother, aunt, niece, etc.

By attacking his girl/bm it means he couldn't think of anything to say to Nas.

Here go another stupid post. He didnt "attack his girl" he bragged about taking his rivals bitch. Told the world Nas was in love with a hoe that fucked his enemy. I mean do you really think this was a diss song aimed at Carmen? I feel stupid explaining stuff that simple to a old head. Come on man stop letting KRS down

 

[Roster Player #99]

Yo this shit was venomous, the album version at least...

Thought this was to Mase tho?

 

[dalyricalbandit]

This is when Jay was unfuckable with

 

[BelovedAfeni]

I dont care for sub disses

say it with ya chest

not the top 10 diss

case dismissed

 

[5 Grand]

No its not a top 10 diss for the same reason SupaUgly isn't a top 10 diss.

Your supposed to attack your opponent, not his girlfriend.

Ether was aimed at Jay Z. Not his girl, mother, aunt, niece, etc.

By attacking his girl/bm it means he couldn't think of anything to say to Nas.

Here go another stupid post. He didnt "attack his girl" he bragged about taking his rivals bitch. Told the world Nas was in love with a hoe that fucked his enemy. I mean do you really think this was a diss song aimed at Carmen? I feel stupid explaining stuff that simple to a old head. Come on man stop letting KRS down

The question was, "Is That Your Bitch a Top 10 Diss record Yes or No". The answer is no because he didn't diss Nas, he dissed his girl.

By all means, explain how dissing Nas's girl = a top 10 diss?

 

[BackInWhite]

If a nigga didn't know jay was dissing Nas that verse was venomous as fuck to the imaginary dude you thought he was dissing

Top 10 off that alone

 

[Cutler 26 INT's LOL!]

Like I said in the other thread about this song I always laugh at that "You comin home to dirty dishes and empty soda cans" line...Like how disrespectful of a nigga you gotta be to dirty up a mans crib he comin home to filth lol

 

[dalyricalbandit]

Gradually I'm taking over your bitch

Coming over your shit

Got my feet up on you sofa, man

I mean a hostess for my open hand

You coming home to dirty dishes and empty soda cans

I got your bitch in my Rover man

I never kiss her, I never hold her hand

In fact I diss her I'm a bolder man

I'mma pimp her, it's over man

It's over man, it's over

Yo, why you home alone, why she out with me?

Room 112, hotel balcony

How she say Jay you can call the house for me?

There's no respect at all

You betta check her dawg

She keep beggin' me to hit it raw

So she can have my kids and say it was yours

How foul is she? And you wifed her

Shit, I put the rubber on tighter

Sent her home, when she entered home

You hugged her up

What the fuck is up?

She got you whipped, got your kid

Got your home, but that's not your bitch

You share that girl

 

[gemini86]

No its not a top 10 diss for the same reason SupaUgly isn't a top 10 diss.

Your supposed to attack your opponent, not his girlfriend.

Ether was aimed at Jay Z. Not his girl, mother, aunt, niece, etc.

By attacking his girl/bm it means he couldn't think of anything to say to Nas.

Here go another stupid post. He didnt "attack his girl" he bragged about taking his rivals bitch. Told the world Nas was in love with a hoe that fucked his enemy. I mean do you really think this was a diss song aimed at Carmen? I feel stupid explaining stuff that simple to a old head. Come on man stop letting KRS down

He's not an old head. He's a 22 year old kid from London. He exposes his immaturity from time to time. With dumb ass questions and comments. Like when he asked "what was no limit buzz like?" And "how were rappers able to sell a lot back in the day?" He keeps his old head persona by making "let's take it waaaay back" threads. Stop feeding this troll.

 

[The Recipe]

A subliminal dis could never be in my top anything.

 

[_God_]

Made this thread a few months ago

 

[5 Grand]

A subliminal dis could never be in my top anything.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Top 5 stalker song yea...

 

[jono]

Its a great record, dissing by proxy is kind of irrelevant though. Carmen is a BM who can really say what her and Nas relationship was at the time. If anything Jay made the beef about Carmen more than an issue with Nas or competition about who was the best rapper.

Crazy thing is, all these years that was Jay - Z ace in the hole. He was brag about fucking Carmen, who lets face it, at the time was a bad little bitch but looking back on it...nigga so what?

Gossip girls get into all that who fucking who shit, most niggas don't care.

 

[Ether44mag]

yes definately! I personally prefer subliminal beefs and this song is a personal ether to Nas's fellings for sure haha we talkin about his babymoms here ! thats the kind of speech if someone tells you that in front of a crowd at a basketball court or some you gotta move outta town after that hahaha

 

[raheemclassick]

Gradually I'm taking over your bitch

Coming over your shit

Got my feet up on you sofa, man

I mean a hostess for my open hand

You coming home to dirty dishes and empty soda cans

I got your bitch in my Rover man

I never kiss her, I never hold her hand

In fact I diss her I'm a bolder man

I'mma pimp her, it's over man

It's over man, it's over

Yo, why you home alone, why she out with me?

Room 112, hotel balcony

How she say Jay you can call the house for me?

There's no respect at all

You betta check her dawg

She keep beggin' me to hit it raw

So she can have my kids and say it was yours

How foul is she? And you wifed her

Shit, I put the rubber on tighter

Sent her home, when she entered home

You hugged her up

What the fuck is up?

She got you whipped, got your kid

Got your home, but that's not your bitch

You share that girl

CRYMATIC BY NAS"