Knock_Twice;8288188 said:
Cain;8288144 said:
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Brother_Five;8288094 said:
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killing him on wax ≠ stopping his industry momentum
Folk
you stated this, but who is hearing this record??
When you got a nigga doing 5 million in 2 months off 2 videos..and I'm not even counting how he's all on your TV screen and radio..Who is really checking for an unknown nigga that's making a diss record that most have never heard of??
Niggas down south hadn't even heard of Jay-Z in 96 to be real about the whole situation..
and only Queens niggas heard of 50 Cent when he dropped "Your life's on the line"...
Only South Bronx niggas heard of KRS when he dropped the Bridge is Over...
etc etc
there is the culture and there is the industry...
A lot of people are rap fans morseo hip-hop fans @Brother_Five so the culture is not taken as serious
Big brother Cain, you was around at that time...folk you should know that if a nigga wasn't on 2pac's platform..or in some type of light, a diss record aim'd at him was falling on deaf ears...
The only, only person at that time that could have made a little noise would have been Biggie himself or Mobb Deep, Nas etc..those who were 'known', none of them D lister ass rappers would have made any noise..
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Lol Cube could've went at Pac(not saying they had beef or he would have) and shut him down. Cube had more fans and was selling as well. Big could've went at Pac but Puff shut that down. Nas like you said could've went at dude as well but they handled their business. Wutang as well but they squashed their little beef too.
Pac had the Deathrow machine behind him. Niggas moreso feared Suge than Pac. We're not going to act like rapper's wasn't selling when Pac popped on the scene. Him going to jail and going at cops made him (in)famous. That made niggas care about his music more. To say he was a lyrical killer on the mic was
Oh and 95% of the niggas on this board never listened to a Pac album before MATW so I don't respect their opinions.
@Knock_Twice
And the Deathrow machine had nothing to do with niggas going at Pac..They were a record company just like any record company that was out folk, Them nigga just had the biggest rapper at the time that was tearing through shit..
All these ppl Pac went at and you mean to tell me NOT one was man enough to make a song about this nigga?? and yall saying oh they could've did this and that now??
Hit em up came out june 1996, that dude was dead three months later. It wasn't like you could go run to studio and have an album out in an hour and get it around the world, shit took time and a real studio, not sitting at home on a computer, to make a song.
On top of that ppl did make songs and more would have come out, had he not went and got himself shot and killed. Then ppl pulled their songs from albums out of respect.
In this pac tale y'all keep telling you act as if it was years and years of being on ppls necks. He came out of jail and was just making songs and subliminals then the interviews in vibe got things bubbling, then hit em up came out, he really started going in heavy, and then he died. Trust me those fall albums from east coast artists would have been going at that dude crazy. When have you known nyc to go run and cower from a nigga?
Nas and them stepped to him at the awards, so what you mean ppl was scared and shook? You guys don't have the full story, you had three months of pac going ham, then you have death. And his actions were leading that way one way or another. There is no "if he lived" cause he couldn't have. Not with his reckless behavior at that time.
To paint him as some wild cowbot that had the whole rap world shook is disingenuous. It's sad tis is the pac that is most remembered, because it was self destructive and foolish and led to two of the biggest rappers getting gunned down, yet ppl worship that dumb shit as if he was doing good things.
The best pac was pre deathrow, me against the world, imo when he was taking it to them white folks politically, talkibg about uplifting communities and showing love for all black ppl. That's the shit that had him being a hip hop bob marley and that's the shit that touched ppl.
Gtfoh with giving high praise to the paranoid gangsta pac for "shutting everyone down." Also its unfair that ppl count the disses on makaveli album as wins when he was already dead at its release. How can you respond to a dead nigga? But that solidified "oh shit he killing them" in a lot of ppls minds.
Like I said I love pac, I love biggie, I love hiphop. I accept the good with the bad, but y'all can't rewrite the history.
