Is it safe to say the mvp is Lebrons to lose again?

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fabionbackbitch;63498 said:
Kobe's playing with one hand nigga.

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yeah pretty much
 
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Kobe is playing with the best perimeter defender in Artest, the most skilled big man in Gasol, the best offensive center in Bynum, and the most skillfull sixth man in Odom. The Lakers are the most stacked team in the league so don't give me that shit, Kobe doesn't even guard the best perimeter player anymore; all he does is jack up shots now.
 
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usmarin3;63582 said:
Kobe is playing with the best perimeter defender in Artest, the most skilled big man in Gasol, the best offensive center in Bynum, and the most skillfull sixth man in Odom. The Lakers are the most stacked team in the league so don't give me that shit, Kobe doesn't even guard the best perimeter player anymore; all he does is jack up shots now.

Lebronze is playing with an all star point guard the most dominant center in the game and a scrappy all hustle PF

..see what i did there? i over hyped the cavs just like you did the lakers
 
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tcm;64064 said:
Lebronze is playing with an all star point guard the most dominant center in the game and a scrappy all hustle PF

..see what i did there? i over hyped the cavs just like you did the lakers

lol at Mo Williams being a all star PG, he cried his sorry ass to the all star game last year and got in as the third option. Shaq is old and nowhere near all star level at this point in his career. Sideshow Bob has no offensive skills, TRY AGAIN.
 
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usmarin3;64089 said:
lol at Mo Williams being a all star PG, he cried his sorry ass to the all star game last year and got in as the third option. Shaq is old and nowhere near all star level at this point in his career. Sideshow Bob has no offensive skills, TRY AGAIN.

Believe me i know all this but come on son youre talking down on Kobe when Gasol has been off and on with hamstring problems Bynum admitted he doesnt play as hard when Gasol is in the game and Odom is the most inconsistent nigga in the league. On paper they are stacked but they are fighting point guard/bench/injury issues and Kobe still got them goin strong.

Carmelo is out ballin lebron too
 
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I heard Melo, Bron, & Kobe.............lemme throw Dirk in the mix tho
 
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its Lebrons to lose definitely, career high in FG%, FT%, 3pt%, and assists...and hes averagin just under 30, with Shaq thats playin like 20minutes a game and a score 1st point guard in Mo williams...While Kobe got all them niggas on his team....so i think for MVP its Lebron 1, Kobe 2
 
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both are playin wit all stars, but kobe all stars is way better than lebron's..

but anyway, i think dis one goes down to a battle between carmelo & lebron....kobe def shouldnt win this year...

EDIT: but mo williams is allstar caliber player real talk....
 
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C/s thread 100% without Lebron the Cavs wouldn't have a chance, no other player is even avg close to 20 ppg. The Lakers and Nuggets got way better players then the Cavs do, and LOL @ the nigga who said Mo Williams is an All Star pt guard that nigga is avg at best compared to other pt guards in the league. The only reason he got in was cuz Nelson was injured last year with his arm so they had to get him in as a pt for the east. Cav fans be saying some dumb ass shit sometimes real talk .
 
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i guess people saying Lebron in here havent heard every analyst say Kobe is the MVP right now lol.. fuckkin nerds..

he's playing with a broken finger on his shooting hand and still carrying his team to the best record in the league..

dont forget Gasol has been out for more than half their games..

FOH .. dummies
 
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CMac;65682 said:
C/s thread 100% without Lebron the Cavs wouldn't have a chance, no other player is even avg close to 20 ppg. The Lakers and Nuggets got way better players then the Cavs do, and LOL @ the nigga who said Mo Williams is an All Star pt guard that nigga is avg at best compared to other pt guards in the league. The only reason he got in was cuz Nelson was injured last year with his arm so they had to get him in as a pt for the east. Cav fans be saying some dumb ass shit sometimes real talk .

if you feel this way seriously.. you know nothing about basketball..
 
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Wait so before when Kobe was snubbed for mvp...it was because his team sucked...now that he has a good team that's a strike against him...fuck outta here...kobe kept his team #1 in the league despite injuries from Pau Gasol...despite injures from a key reserve in Luke Walton...despite injuries from Ron Artest...despite inconsistant play from the bench mob, odom, and bynum...and despite terrible play from his point gaurd. Oh and he did this with a broken finger...oh and did I mention it was on his shooting hand...oh and did I mention he also sprained the elbow on his shootin arm...and hyperextended his knee...and dealt with back spasms...still very close to leading the league in scoring and was leading for most of the season. The seasons not even halfway over but so far Kobe is ahead in the race.
 
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Kobe has no grounds to stand on imo, Lebron has him scoring, shooting a better percentage, takes less shots, averages more assists, more rebounds, and more blocks; Kobe only has him on steals. If you're try argue it from a team perspective, their records are pretty close but the Cavs beat the Lakers and Lebron had a better game than Kobe; Kobe shot poorly and jacked up a bunch of shots. Now lets look at who really makes their teams better and the talent around them.

Mo Williams = Fisher (mo might be a better shooter and scorer, but fisher is a better leader and not a choker in the playoffs)

Kobe > Parker (no explanation)

Lebron > Artest ( even though Lebron is better, Artest is a star player and a number one on any other team)

Gasol > Varejao (no explanation)

Bynum > Z (Bynum is the most skilled big man in the league right now, Z knees are weaker than 9th wonders drums)
 
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Besides Lebron the only other person I think is deserving is Carmelo.
 
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LOL @ people saying without Lebron the Cavs wouldnt have a chance..in the east where teams under .500 are in the playoff race. And yall can hate on Mo Williams all you want because he never showed up in the conference finals but that nigga can ball flat out
 
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So we are gonna act like the Celts,Magic, and Hawks can't beat the Lakers,Nuggets,Spurs, and Mavs. The bottom of the division of the east might be weak but ill take the top 4 teams in th east over the top 4 in the west. Mo Williams is a solid player, but dude aint even a top 10 pg in the league.
 
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Man I've seen some of the craziest statements in this thread....

Lebrons done more in less time?

did Kobe not have 3 titles at age 25? let me guess Kobe had nothing to do with it it was all Shaq who up until that point had 0 titles playin with the likes of Penny (who in his day was one of the best in the game)

Lebron has better numbers?
first rebounds....since when do guards out rebound forwards smh
assist...when has anyone averaged more than 6 assists in the triangle
PPG...by like half a point Kobe led the league in scoring until his broken finger and messed up his back

I think I saw someone say Lebron plays better defense....WTF Lebron almost is as lazy defensively as D wade sure he'll make a nice block or nice steal every now and then when you gamble so much your going to win at some point

lets not forget all the game winners kobe has had this y.

I mean really you can make an argument for either one of them but cats in here are making Kobe seem like Smush Parker
 
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usmarin3;67566 said:
Kobe has no grounds to stand on imo, Lebron has him scoring, shooting a better percentage, takes less shots, averages more assists, more rebounds, and more blocks; Kobe only has him on steals. If you're try argue it from a team perspective, their records are pretty close but the Cavs beat the Lakers and Lebron had a better game than Kobe; Kobe shot poorly and jacked up a bunch of shots. Now lets look at who really makes their teams better and the talent around them.

Mo Williams = Fisher (mo might be a better shooter and scorer, but fisher is a better leader and not a choker in the playoffs)

Kobe > Parker (no explanation)

Lebron > Artest ( even though Lebron is better, Artest is a star player and a number one on any other team)

Gasol > Varejao (no explanation)

Bynum > Z (Bynum is the most skilled big man in the league right now, Z knees are weaker than 9th wonders drums)

wtf is this shit???

Mo williams is better than Fisher period...

What playoff team would Ron Artest be a number one for?

Bynum is not the most skilled big on his team let alone the league
 
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vince tongue;68416 said:
Kobe finally won last season now look at his track record without shaq or a big time big man.Lakers didn't even make the playoffs in 2005,In 06 7th seed 1st round loss,In 07 7th seed 1st round Loss,They get gasol and go to the finals back to back.When has lebron EVER played with a player of gasol or shaq's status?? He's been surrounded by Bums and still got em to the finals and out the 1st round unlike kobe.Just stop lebron is better he makes teammates better has better stats and a better game.Kobe just shoots and hogs.He never makes anyone better he's just a volume scorer.Lebron is better than kobe.If lebron had a team with gasol,artest,bynum and odom you best believe that 72-10 record would be in serious jeopardy.Lebron is better period.

everything else you wrote was nonsense besides the bolded
 
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