Is Drake a fraud???

[THEMIXTAPECITY.COM]

You peep his new mixtape? I just posted it on my website TheMixtapeCity.com and reviewed it.. Drake has a few stand out songs.. he just dropped em way too early thats all. I cant really comment too much on the man tho.. He is startin to be very questionable.. Lol @ you refer to him as lupe bc a few tracks on the new mixtape i refered back to him as being a lupe on them.. not in a bad way but he had that swag to em..

 

[kingblaze84]

A new mixtape is not what this dude needs.....he needs a fucking album....dropping too many mixtapes dilutes your material. Just ask 50 Cent.

 

[Dooms Day]

Droping mixtapes is bad for established artists but good for a nobody. he needs to release that album,

Drake is pushed by the system, 50's buzz was organic.

 

[blackrain]

there's a reason he didn't have any singles on the Young Money album...cuz it's a Young Money album and not a "let's promote Drake on the low but fuck everybody else" album

 

[gee757]

drake is a betta actor then rapper imo i think drake miss'd his chance 2 sell krazy recordz last yr now hell b lucky 2 sell between 100k or 200k da 1st wk but last yr wit da buzz he had i think drizzy couldve sold 300k or betta da 1st wk but well c wat drake does...

 

[Bwoahmizzee]

see yall are missing the key factor. He is a good actor/entertainer

just like he played a character on Degrassi he's playing a character when he raps just liike alot of rappers do.

He creates a certain persona when he gets on the mic and he's good at acting.

I saw him do a interview and I was like it aint no way this the same nigga from the mixtape

but then again I had never watched him on Degrassi either

anyway the boy is talented bottom line

 

[ricanprince]

Ive been riding with aubrey since the first episode of degrassi, ive followed his career the past 9-10 years, i will always ride with him

 

[ambiguous1]

lol at the ricanprince

I mean i wouldnt know if i'd call him a fraud, he is what he is. A Child star who came into this game with money, was able to pay for nice guest spots from Wayne and Trey Songs.... Pay for good beats, and pay for nice production on his mixtapes, he had it a lot easier than most coming into the game...

But i mean it's the fans that keep giving him a pass, i dont think he's a fraud b/c i dont really think of him anything other than a manufacture cat who's just using hip hop to get paid and in a couple years he'll be on to acting in movies...

I mean the dude clearly said i just got into hip hop a couple years ago, and pepole are crowning him as hip hop's savior... so really it's the hip hop fans that are letting this shit slide

 

[unbreakable]

Droping mixtapes is bad for established artists but good for a nobody. he needs to release that album,

Drake is pushed by the system, 50's buzz was organic.

^^^^^This^^^^^

 

[unbreakable]

see yall are missing the key factor. He is a good actor/entertainer

just like he played a character on Degrassi he's playing a character when he raps just liike alot of rappers do.

He creates a certain persona when he gets on the mic and he's good at acting.

I saw him do a interview and I was like it aint no way this the same nigga from the mixtape

but then again I had never watched him on Degrassi either

anyway the boy is talented bottom line

imo....it pretty obvious he can act....He's acting in all the videos..even when he rapping he putting on a act..he rubs off as trying to be a rapper rather than being himself....its one of his many roles....he's only rapping cause he think's its cool and he got a nice flow....he a nerd..imo

 

[Yungin T. Jeezie]

imo....it pretty obvious he can act....He's acting in all the videos..even when he rapping he putting on a act..he rubs off as trying to be a rapper rather than being himself....its one of his many roles....he's only rapping cause he think's its cool and he got a nice flow....he a nerd..imo

I cant listen to lil Degrassi High, he got decent lyrics but his mic presences & flow is boring. I might as well look at M.A.S.H then listening to a whole Degrassi album

 

[SoulRattler of Venom]

He's a good actor and I'll leave it at that.

 

[ziggiy]

Ok ummmm do ANY of yo know exactly what a fraud is? How in the hell can you combine him not having any "stand out" singles on a GROUP album, him pushing his album back trying to come out with the best product possible, and YOUR opinion of declining "buzz" and come up with "Drake is a Fraud", that makes no fucking sense..

Firstly, even if we go with the "Drake is an actor playing the ROLE of a rapper" then WHAT exactly do you mean? I could understand if he came out on some "Kill Kill!! Murder Murder, drop ten grams and flip a Kilo" bullshit; but dude doesn't come off phony. He spits about things that he and his crew have gone through and things he's seen others experience just as most rappers do. Now of course this comes with a bit of exageration and what havs you but to straight call the guy a fraud is stupid. Rick Ross would be more an example of creating a fraudulent background than Drake and even then, is Rick Ross is STILL a rapper with a FRAUDELENT BACKGROUND, but unless all of his shit is ghostwritten, he's still a rapper at the end of the day with alot of imagination...

Secondly this whole "Buzz" thing has GOT to be put ionto perspective, I do get what you say about manufactured buzz vs. organic buzz, but lets remember hear that this isn't 10-15 years ago, where rappers mostly only got buzz and following from the streets or a particular region, this Hip Hop shit is GLOBAL now and with the blessing and the curse known as the internet damn near ANYBODY can create a forum for thier shit to be heard, its not about a 16 year old Nas spitting hot freestyles in the street and running with the Juice crew and setting queens bridge on fire with ONE verse that had MC Serch trying to find him for a year, its about dropping your shit on your facebook, Myspace, bLOG, Ect and having the opportunity for MULTIPLE people to hear your music. I didnt hear about and get put onto Drake through the "streets" I got put onto him because cats on Sohh and Reason were buzzing about So Far Gone and how great it was that I decided to give it a listen, and THAT is as about "organic" is its gonna get in this new decade and beyond. So Far Gone wasn't pushed by label execs until fans started requesting Successful and Best I Ever Had on radio stations, THEN he got label backing and support, that doesn't sound like a "manufactured" artist to me, sounds like dude got on his "grind" (as soooo many of you seem to respect of other, leeser talented "hustler types") and made shit happen for himself, whether he had MORE resources at his disposal than another rapper is another conversation entirely..

Thirdly as far as the album goes, I'm taking a wait and see approach to it. I'm definitely a fan of his however all this talk of "he'll either sell 500-800k or he flops" talk is nonesense to me. He'll drop a single, it'll either catch on or it won't, he'll do a bazillion guset spots and we'll see if he's able to hold onto the fanbase he had over the summer, I just want a good album out of the guy...

 

[b@squ1@t redux]

n/h @ male drake fans

 

[ambiguous1]

Ok ummmm do ANY of yo know exactly what a fraud is? How in the hell can you combine him not having any "stand out" singles on a GROUP album, him pushing his album back trying to come out with the best product possible, and YOUR opinion of declining "buzz" and come up with "Drake is a Fraud", that makes no fucking sense..

Firstly, even if we go with the "Drake is an actor playing the ROLE of a rapper" then WHAT exactly do you mean? I could understand if he came out on some "Kill Kill!! Murder Murder, drop ten grams and flip a Kilo" bullshit; but dude doesn't come off phony. He spits about things that he and his crew have gone through and things he's seen others experience just as most rappers do. Now of course this comes with a bit of exageration and what havs you but to straight call the guy a fraud is stupid. Rick Ross would be more an example of creating a fraudulent background than Drake and even then, is Rick Ross is STILL a rapper with a FRAUDELENT BACKGROUND, but unless all of his shit is ghostwritten, he's still a rapper at the end of the day with alot of imagination...

Secondly this whole "Buzz" thing has GOT to be put ionto perspective, I do get what you say about manufactured buzz vs. organic buzz, but lets remember hear that this isn't 10-15 years ago, where rappers mostly only got buzz and following from the streets or a particular region, this Hip Hop shit is GLOBAL now and with the blessing and the curse known as the internet damn near ANYBODY can create a forum for thier shit to be heard, its not about a 16 year old Nas spitting hot freestyles in the street and running with the Juice crew and setting queens bridge on fire with ONE verse that had MC Serch trying to find him for a year, its about dropping your shit on your facebook, Myspace, bLOG, Ect and having the opportunity for MULTIPLE people to hear your music. I didnt hear about and get put onto Drake through the "streets" I got put onto him because cats on Sohh and Reason were buzzing about So Far Gone and how great it was that I decided to give it a listen, and THAT is as about "organic" is its gonna get in this new decade and beyond. So Far Gone wasn't pushed by label execs until fans started requesting Successful and Best I Ever Had on radio stations, THEN he got label backing and support, that doesn't sound like a "manufactured" artist to me, sounds like dude got on his "grind" (as soooo many of you seem to respect of other, leeser talented "hustler types") and made shit happen for himself, whether he had MORE resources at his disposal than another rapper is another conversation entirely..

Thirdly as far as the album goes, I'm taking a wait and see approach to it. I'm definitely a fan of his however all this talk of "he'll either sell 500-800k or he flops" talk is nonesense to me. He'll drop a single, it'll either catch on or it won't, he'll do a bazillion guset spots and we'll see if he's able to hold onto the fanbase he had over the summer, I just want a good album out of the guy...

First off i dont really agree with the pionts the threadstarter made as to why he is a fraud but....

But i mean in regards to your buzz comments you need to lighten up on that whole his buzz is as organic as it can be and it wasnt manufactured etc... Dude came in the game with tall money from acting. Therefore he had the cash to pay for a guest spot by probaby the hottest rapper out at that time being lil wayne. He paid for guest spots for Trey Songs, he was able to use that money to buy beats that really no up and commer was getting, he was able to use that money to promote his music in other ways that an up and comer who is really grinding could not. Paying for radio spins etc with his old money. Not very organic

Now lets also touch on your 2nd paragraph, trying to discredit his "fradulent background"... I'm not mistaken a lot of Drakes earlier work was more conscious and repeatidly touching on the fact that woman should empower themselves and that they shouldnt aspire to become simple video vixens... flash forward 2yrs, he signs to Young Money and next thing you know he's fuking every girl in the world and has teh mean stroke game and what not completely contradicting the message he started out with, and his current message falls completely in line with a Young Money acts message. Get money bang hoes. Not really a good look IMO

Young Money did some serious Damage Control when all those rumors came out about Drake not really writing all his own stuff, asking for lines and bas and hooks all the time in the studio, he cant freestyle etc... those rumors were heavy for like 2wks then just faded out.

Then you also want to say he's as organic as it comes and he's not manufactured?? Well he sounds exactly like Lil Wayne when he first dropped his more visable/mainstream music, and his whole everythying is a carbon copy from Kanye from the rhyme scheme. flow pattern alll the way to mannerisms on stage.

Look i got no beef with Drake, get your money and i know you'll make great songs for soroity girls and guys who desperatley need to get laid, but please dont come in here and try and tell hip hop heads that Drake isnt manufactured, is totally organic etc b/c Drake offers absol;utely nothing new to this hip hop game oih and

"I said I want a Tuna Sandwhich!!!!!!!"

 

[la'trice]

A new mixtape is not what this dude needs.....he needs a fucking album....dropping too many mixtapes dilutes your material. Just ask 50 Cent.

excatly , thats what happen w/ gucci he dropped to many mixtapes and when the album dropped it kinda got "overlooked" , i hear so many people say his "burrprint" mixtape should have been the actual album,

dake is heading down that same boat, by the time that album come no one will really be hungry for it because they will aready have two of his mixtapes, mixtapes are a "gift and a curse", mixtape will help you get a buzz but they will also fuck up your album sales for an actual album , and poor nicki manaj rather she put out a mixtape or not i still dont see her being succesful in ths industry.

by the way ... DRAKE IS OVERRATED

 

[unbreakable]

flash forward 2yrs, he signs to Young Money and next thing you know he's fuking every girl in the world and has teh mean stroke game and what not completely contradicting the message he started out with, and his current message falls completely in line with a Young Money acts message. Get money bang hoes. Not really a good look IMO

Then you also want to say he's as organic as it comes and he's not manufactured?? Well he sounds exactly like Lil Wayne when he first dropped his more visable/mainstream music, and his whole everythying is a carbon copy from Kanye from the rhyme scheme. flow pattern alll the way to mannerisms on stage.

^^^EXactly what he said...good shit

 

[ziggiy]

First off i dont really agree with the pionts the threadstarter made as to why he is a fraud but....

But i mean in regards to your buzz comments you need to lighten up on that whole his buzz is as organic as it can be and it wasnt manufactured etc... Dude came in the game with tall money from acting. Therefore he had the cash to pay for a guest spot by probaby the hottest rapper out at that time being lil wayne. He paid for guest spots for Trey Songs, he was able to use that money to buy beats that really no up and commer was getting, he was able to use that money to promote his music in other ways that an up and comer who is really grinding could not. Paying for radio spins etc with his old money. Not very organic

Now lets also touch on your 2nd paragraph, trying to discredit his "fradulent background"... I'm not mistaken a lot of Drakes earlier work was more conscious and repeatidly touching on the fact that woman should empower themselves and that they shouldnt aspire to become simple video vixens... flash forward 2yrs, he signs to Young Money and next thing you know he's fuking every girl in the world and has teh mean stroke game and what not completely contradicting the message he started out with, and his current message falls completely in line with a Young Money acts message. Get money bang hoes. Not really a good look IMO

Young Money did some serious Damage Control when all those rumors came out about Drake not really writing all his own stuff, asking for lines and bas and hooks all the time in the studio, he cant freestyle etc... those rumors were heavy for like 2wks then just faded out.

Then you also want to say he's as organic as it comes and he's not manufactured?? Well he sounds exactly like Lil Wayne when he first dropped his more visable/mainstream music, and his whole everythying is a carbon copy from Kanye from the rhyme scheme. flow pattern alll the way to mannerisms on stage.

Look i got no beef with Drake, get your money and i know you'll make great songs for soroity girls and guys who desperatley need to get laid, but please dont come in here and try and tell hip hop heads that Drake isnt manufactured, is totally organic etc b/c Drake offers absol;utely nothing new to this hip hop game oih and

"I said I want a Tuna Sandwhich!!!!!!!"

Ok now if you would have read my second paragraph, you would have seen that I made the distinction that if he used his acting money to pay for guest spots, beats, ect. then thats another conversation. I'm not denying that he did that, hell, wouldn't YOU IF YOU HAD THOSE KIND OF RESOURCES????? To me honestly, it doesn't matter that HE used HIS OWN MONEY that HE EARNED from television to further his music career, just means to me that he believed in himself enough to invest in himself, this doesnt (in my opinion) disqualify him or mark him as a "manufactured" act because he had more resources than someone else, if he were TRULY wack then under the circumstances he was in (no label backing, canadian cild star lacking interesing drug dealing background) he probably wouldnt be as big as he is now.

Secondly, on his material, have you HEARD his last two mixtapes before So Far Gone? Dude was NO Common or Talib Kweli on that conscious tip, he had lyrics and Bars that had conscious content (think early Kanye) but he himself was no conscious rapper. Dude had songs with Little Brother, Elzhi, and Von Pea, with "Don't You Have a Man" "Thrill is Gone", and "Think Good Thoughts", but he ALSO had songs with Trey Songz and Wayne, he had a nice balance which I liked, he wasn't cut and dry either way.

Now with your point about his lyrical content as it stands since the Young Money signing.... I don't really have a rebuttal as admitadly I honestly do not listen to much of stuff that features young money, Nicki, or Birdman as I think they all suck lol.. I haven't heard the Young Money album as I knew it was gonna be trash out the gate, so I dont know what he was spittin really, what I HAVE heard is his solo stuff since signing with them and different non-young money collaborations (i.e. Forever Remix) and yes he's more braggadocious, but homey really tell me, if YOU had just signed a multimillion dollar deal without (as far as we know) going through the bullshit of label politics, had THREE huge hit singles over the summer, and all of this off of a FREE mixtape, tell me YOU wouldn't be display a lil more Bravo and fuck as many strippers, models, video vixens as you could lol.. Like I said if dude is spitting about his life and it has an air of AUTHENTICITY (meaning he's not throwing up gang signs and shit) then I have no problem with his content...

And on your "he's a carbn copy of Kanye and Wayne" I really wouldn't go as far as to say hes a direct carbon copy (now this is my opinion of course) I think he's better than Wayne (whom I can't stand) conceptually and lyrically and he's already cited Kanye as one of his many influences, like I said I do not PERSONALLY see him as a rip off of either artist.

 

[youngnorth]

Ok ummmm do ANY of yo know exactly what a fraud is? How in the hell can you combine him not having any "stand out" singles on a GROUP album, him pushing his album back trying to come out with the best product possible, and YOUR opinion of declining "buzz" and come up with "Drake is a Fraud", that makes no fucking sense..

Firstly, even if we go with the "Drake is an actor playing the ROLE of a rapper" then WHAT exactly do you mean? I could understand if he came out on some "Kill Kill!! Murder Murder, drop ten grams and flip a Kilo" bullshit; but dude doesn't come off phony. He spits about things that he and his crew have gone through and things he's seen others experience just as most rappers do. Now of course this comes with a bit of exageration and what havs you but to straight call the guy a fraud is stupid. Rick Ross would be more an example of creating a fraudulent background than Drake and even then, is Rick Ross is STILL a rapper with a FRAUDELENT BACKGROUND, but unless all of his shit is ghostwritten, he's still a rapper at the end of the day with alot of imagination...

Secondly this whole "Buzz" thing has GOT to be put ionto perspective, I do get what you say about manufactured buzz vs. organic buzz, but lets remember hear that this isn't 10-15 years ago, where rappers mostly only got buzz and following from the streets or a particular region, this Hip Hop shit is GLOBAL now and with the blessing and the curse known as the internet damn near ANYBODY can create a forum for thier shit to be heard, its not about a 16 year old Nas spitting hot freestyles in the street and running with the Juice crew and setting queens bridge on fire with ONE verse that had MC Serch trying to find him for a year, its about dropping your shit on your facebook, Myspace, bLOG, Ect and having the opportunity for MULTIPLE people to hear your music. I didnt hear about and get put onto Drake through the "streets" I got put onto him because cats on Sohh and Reason were buzzing about So Far Gone and how great it was that I decided to give it a listen, and THAT is as about "organic" is its gonna get in this new decade and beyond. So Far Gone wasn't pushed by label execs until fans started requesting Successful and Best I Ever Had on radio stations, THEN he got label backing and support, that doesn't sound like a "manufactured" artist to me, sounds like dude got on his "grind" (as soooo many of you seem to respect of other, leeser talented "hustler types") and made shit happen for himself, whether he had MORE resources at his disposal than another rapper is another conversation entirely..

Thirdly as far as the album goes, I'm taking a wait and see approach to it. I'm definitely a fan of his however all this talk of "he'll either sell 500-800k or he flops" talk is nonesense to me. He'll drop a single, it'll either catch on or it won't, he'll do a bazillion guset spots and we'll see if he's able to hold onto the fanbase he had over the summer, I just want a good album out of the guy...

This man know what hes talking about. Some of ya'll be looking for any reason to hate on drake and try to discredit his buzz and grind

 

[Focal Point]

His buzz seems fine to me... nothing wrong with dropping some minor work until your piece is ready for the world