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blakfyahking;c-9630812 said:skpjr78;c-9630796 said:The bolded just reinforced my point. Cacs supervised black congregations and handpicking the plantation pastors and making sure they said what they wanted them to say was part of that supervision.
The truths of the bible and teachings and philosophies of Jesus Christ are beautiful. The problem is that cacs tampered with the bible, rewrote the word of God, perverted the teachings of Jesus and transformed a philosophy of love into a cult a hate. Our ancestors weren't given Christianity on the plantation. They were given white supremacy and Jesus was used as a vehicle to deliver that message.
There are some truths left in the bible but the truth that remains is surrounded by lies and bullshit. Nat Turner was able to unlock the remaining truth and use it as a vehicle to fight for his freedom just as Moses did. The end result was that cacs supervised their black christian slaves even harder, pushed more white supremacy in the church and kept the plantation preacher on an even tighter leash. We haven't seen an American Christian preacher as fearless and revolutionary as Nat Turner since Nat Turner. Cacs put an end to that. They closely monitored and supervised every word that black Christian preachers have said every since. Kenneth Copeland mentored Creflo Dollar and helped him shape his nessage and nearly every big time nationally known black mega church preacher has had their hands in the federal governments Faith Based Initiative (FBI) money pot. The overwhelming majority of black Christian preachers are still spreading a message that is controlled and closely supervised by white people to this day. The game hasnt changed its only gotten worse.
bruh I feel u....but u can't assume EVERY black church is on that bullshit just cuz that is what is promoted by the mainstream
that's like saying just cuz mumble rap is what is popular now then no other versions of rap are not still out there
u can't just group all black preachers and their churches in that same regard
and it doesn't stop at just black church, the brainwashing of black people happens in all vestiges of what is considered planned "education"......a lot of professors/teachers on the same shit with their own agenda as well
at least in the sense of religion people have some sort of hope or faith that shit can get better..........and I'd rather people have that instead of just choosing atheism without an alternative to give them hope
soul rattler;c-9630940 said:blakfyahking;c-9630812 said:skpjr78;c-9630796 said:The bolded just reinforced my point. Cacs supervised black congregations and handpicking the plantation pastors and making sure they said what they wanted them to say was part of that supervision.
The truths of the bible and teachings and philosophies of Jesus Christ are beautiful. The problem is that cacs tampered with the bible, rewrote the word of God, perverted the teachings of Jesus and transformed a philosophy of love into a cult a hate. Our ancestors weren't given Christianity on the plantation. They were given white supremacy and Jesus was used as a vehicle to deliver that message.
There are some truths left in the bible but the truth that remains is surrounded by lies and bullshit. Nat Turner was able to unlock the remaining truth and use it as a vehicle to fight for his freedom just as Moses did. The end result was that cacs supervised their black christian slaves even harder, pushed more white supremacy in the church and kept the plantation preacher on an even tighter leash. We haven't seen an American Christian preacher as fearless and revolutionary as Nat Turner since Nat Turner. Cacs put an end to that. They closely monitored and supervised every word that black Christian preachers have said every since. Kenneth Copeland mentored Creflo Dollar and helped him shape his nessage and nearly every big time nationally known black mega church preacher has had their hands in the federal governments Faith Based Initiative (FBI) money pot. The overwhelming majority of black Christian preachers are still spreading a message that is controlled and closely supervised by white people to this day. The game hasnt changed its only gotten worse.
bruh I feel u....but u can't assume EVERY black church is on that bullshit just cuz that is what is promoted by the mainstream
that's like saying just cuz mumble rap is what is popular now then no other versions of rap are not still out there
u can't just group all black preachers and their churches in that same regard
and it doesn't stop at just black church, the brainwashing of black people happens in all vestiges of what is considered planned "education"......a lot of professors/teachers on the same shit with their own agenda as well
at least in the sense of religion people have some sort of hope or faith that shit can get better..........and I'd rather people have that instead of just choosing atheism without an alternative to give them hope
Saying "not all black churches are like that, look at this one church" is like saying "not all HIV is deadly, look at Magic Johnson"
Malcolm X showed us not to be apologetic for the whole for the sake of the part. The whole of religion is destructive and repressive. That's what it's always been and always will be.
Faith demands ignorance. If you want hope, look at the great things humanity has accomplished through pure ingenuity. What you've overcome in your own life. You don't need a system of mythical ideological dogma to give your life structure.
The Lonious Monk;c-9630609 said:(Nope);c-9630312 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;c-9628671 said:blackrain;c-9628388 said:Oh and @obnoxiouslyfresh normally you really do present good arguments for things...but you can't go from saying you're a woman of principle in the thread about boycotting Uber to in this thread going this hard defending a pastor who is knowingly not leading in the way a leader should because you think he's attractive and can talk slick enough to make you look past his flaws. This is probably the first time I can say you really do fit a negative stereotype of a black woman and I've seen you posting here for a long ass time defying many stereotypes these niggas throw at you...but on this one you fell right into it.
Actually, I wasn't defending him. I was defending myself against those who can't fathom how someone doesn't care about their pastor's marital indiscretions... which I'm sure is in line with what they believe is a minster's purpose, and that's where we differ. Discovering a corporation openly supports evil, for any reason, is cause to boycott them, or at least it is in my belief. To me, that's really simple and someone's marriage not being my business is also very simple.
@obnoxiouslyfresh you're good. You're not responsible for other peoples' feelings. This is some shit we do as men. We really want women to hold our feelings because we had expectations or fantasies of who they are based on who we are. It's bad ego boundaries. Disengage yo!
Quit caping. What you just said is nonsense. No one in here is criticizing her comments because of some misguided fantasy of who we believe OB is. From what I've seen, people seem to like OB in here, but she's not exactly placed on a pedestal when it comes to virtues, sensibilities, or anything else.
The fact of the matter is if you're a Christian you're supposed to represent yourself in a godly manner and you're supposed to be careful what you support because that will also reflect back on the faith and God. It doesn't take a genius to understand that. Just look at some of the comments in here. For example:
skpjr78;c-9627251 said:Christianity is the worse thing that ever happened to black people. Since coming into contact to with massa and white jesus we have lost everything including our souls and our minds.
The pastor was always massa's hand picked stooge who he personally selected to keep the negros in line. Pastor had a little bit of status amongst the rest of the negros b/c massa would let him sleep in the basement of the big house and b/c he ate pig ears while everyone else ate chitterlings. As long as pastor kept spreading the demonic words of white jesus and kept the field negros in line he was in good with massa and he reaped the benefits of that. Those benefits included access to as much plantation pussy as he wanted. And if anyone gave him any problems he would just go tell massa and have him put the overseer on them.
400 years later nothing much has changed. The pastor is still the white mans whore and he's still peddling his little trinckets that massa gave him to smash as many "God fearing, church going, good Christian sisters" as he can. Even when he gets caught the church will stand and applaud his sins. Smmfh. Christianity was the most destructive and devistating weapon that these devils have ever used against us.
People can take stances like that because of crooked preachers and the people like OB who support them. And those preachers and those supporters may not care, but God does because the point of the church is to bring more people to the faith. It's kinda hard to do that when both the pastor and the congregation behave as if it's all bullshit.
There are rules to being a Christian just like anything else. If you're not a believer or don't want to follow the rules, you shouldn't be false flagging because that only hurts the people who are actually trying to live the life right.
(Nope);c-9631014 said:The Lonious Monk;c-9630609 said:(Nope);c-9630312 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;c-9628671 said:blackrain;c-9628388 said:Oh and @obnoxiouslyfresh normally you really do present good arguments for things...but you can't go from saying you're a woman of principle in the thread about boycotting Uber to in this thread going this hard defending a pastor who is knowingly not leading in the way a leader should because you think he's attractive and can talk slick enough to make you look past his flaws. This is probably the first time I can say you really do fit a negative stereotype of a black woman and I've seen you posting here for a long ass time defying many stereotypes these niggas throw at you...but on this one you fell right into it.
Actually, I wasn't defending him. I was defending myself against those who can't fathom how someone doesn't care about their pastor's marital indiscretions... which I'm sure is in line with what they believe is a minster's purpose, and that's where we differ. Discovering a corporation openly supports evil, for any reason, is cause to boycott them, or at least it is in my belief. To me, that's really simple and someone's marriage not being my business is also very simple.
@obnoxiouslyfresh you're good. You're not responsible for other peoples' feelings. This is some shit we do as men. We really want women to hold our feelings because we had expectations or fantasies of who they are based on who we are. It's bad ego boundaries. Disengage yo!
Quit caping. What you just said is nonsense. No one in here is criticizing her comments because of some misguided fantasy of who we believe OB is. From what I've seen, people seem to like OB in here, but she's not exactly placed on a pedestal when it comes to virtues, sensibilities, or anything else.
The fact of the matter is if you're a Christian you're supposed to represent yourself in a godly manner and you're supposed to be careful what you support because that will also reflect back on the faith and God. It doesn't take a genius to understand that. Just look at some of the comments in here. For example:
skpjr78;c-9627251 said:Christianity is the worse thing that ever happened to black people. Since coming into contact to with massa and white jesus we have lost everything including our souls and our minds.
The pastor was always massa's hand picked stooge who he personally selected to keep the negros in line. Pastor had a little bit of status amongst the rest of the negros b/c massa would let him sleep in the basement of the big house and b/c he ate pig ears while everyone else ate chitterlings. As long as pastor kept spreading the demonic words of white jesus and kept the field negros in line he was in good with massa and he reaped the benefits of that. Those benefits included access to as much plantation pussy as he wanted. And if anyone gave him any problems he would just go tell massa and have him put the overseer on them.
400 years later nothing much has changed. The pastor is still the white mans whore and he's still peddling his little trinckets that massa gave him to smash as many "God fearing, church going, good Christian sisters" as he can. Even when he gets caught the church will stand and applaud his sins. Smmfh. Christianity was the most destructive and devistating weapon that these devils have ever used against us.
People can take stances like that because of crooked preachers and the people like OB who support them. And those preachers and those supporters may not care, but God does because the point of the church is to bring more people to the faith. It's kinda hard to do that when both the pastor and the congregation behave as if it's all bullshit.
There are rules to being a Christian just like anything else. If you're not a believer or don't want to follow the rules, you shouldn't be false flagging because that only hurts the people who are actually trying to live the life right.
Whoa, slow down!
When @skpjr78 says some shit like "I thought you were better than that" it implies he had expectations for OB. Expectations she is not beholden to.
You do a lot of whining about SJWs, only to engage in similar nit-picking with folks with whom you have more commonalities than differences. And your reaction formation to anything perceived as 'feminist' is hostile. But, I'm not gonna' call that shit out, because it's only as relevant as you want to make it.
So, lets start with this shit
OB: "Actually, I wasn't defending him. I was defending myself against those who can't fathom how someone doesn't care about their pastor's marital indiscretions"
I think that's pretty clear, but you are still trying to pull the rug from under her feet.
You (in response to me): "The fact of the matter is if you're a Christian you're supposed to represent yourself in a godly manner and you're supposed to be careful what you support because that will also reflect back on the faith and God."
Are you Godly all the time? Do you stand up against every and all indiscretions of the church?
The fact of the matter is that OB is entitled to her values. How you feel about her values are a reflection of you and not her.
So lets run down what her stated values are: a good sermon, charity, and community.
What the fuck else do you need?
We give way to iniquity everyday when we wake up. Tell me I'm wrong in saying that Christians believe we are imperfect, that we are born sinners, and that the path to heaven is the forgiveness of Christ? That we should do our best to follow in Christ's footsteps of forgiveness because we can't do this without him?
Everything else is a value imposition on your part. That said, I AGREE that her pastor is on some bullshit, but she said as much. You guys are beating a dead horse. Literally 100's of posts about your feelings, but what I said is nonsense? Stop that!
Good luck tho, maybe you can convert her to your brand of self-righteousness.
obnoxiouslyfresh;c-9627274 said:Ok I'm gonna be honest. My pastor is a hoe. He's married and I know for a fact he knocked down a sunday school teacher. But he's in his 70s and is fine as hell so I almost kinda get it. The old ladies practically throw themselves at him. I just don't give to the collection cause I know he aint shit. But as a minister, I love his sermons.... I dont care.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQIcP5QjDCQ/Los216;c-9630932 said:Fuck Church
konceptjones;c-9630073 said:Copper;c-9627544 said:He might be molesting little boys and girls and using church money on his new house.....but he can deliver dat werd
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LcnsdbyROYALTY;c-9631183 said:Fuckin hilarious thread. It pained me to se OB's fine ass get it handed back to her lol
Trillfate;c-9631225 said:LcnsdbyROYALTY;c-9631183 said:Fuckin hilarious thread. It pained me to se OB's fine ass get it handed back to her lol
She was probably in church this morning thinking about this thread :lol:
soul rattler;c-9630940 said:blakfyahking;c-9630812 said:skpjr78;c-9630796 said:The bolded just reinforced my point. Cacs supervised black congregations and handpicking the plantation pastors and making sure they said what they wanted them to say was part of that supervision.
The truths of the bible and teachings and philosophies of Jesus Christ are beautiful. The problem is that cacs tampered with the bible, rewrote the word of God, perverted the teachings of Jesus and transformed a philosophy of love into a cult a hate. Our ancestors weren't given Christianity on the plantation. They were given white supremacy and Jesus was used as a vehicle to deliver that message.
There are some truths left in the bible but the truth that remains is surrounded by lies and bullshit. Nat Turner was able to unlock the remaining truth and use it as a vehicle to fight for his freedom just as Moses did. The end result was that cacs supervised their black christian slaves even harder, pushed more white supremacy in the church and kept the plantation preacher on an even tighter leash. We haven't seen an American Christian preacher as fearless and revolutionary as Nat Turner since Nat Turner. Cacs put an end to that. They closely monitored and supervised every word that black Christian preachers have said every since. Kenneth Copeland mentored Creflo Dollar and helped him shape his nessage and nearly every big time nationally known black mega church preacher has had their hands in the federal governments Faith Based Initiative (FBI) money pot. The overwhelming majority of black Christian preachers are still spreading a message that is controlled and closely supervised by white people to this day. The game hasnt changed its only gotten worse.
bruh I feel u....but u can't assume EVERY black church is on that bullshit just cuz that is what is promoted by the mainstream
that's like saying just cuz mumble rap is what is popular now then no other versions of rap are not still out there
u can't just group all black preachers and their churches in that same regard
and it doesn't stop at just black church, the brainwashing of black people happens in all vestiges of what is considered planned "education"......a lot of professors/teachers on the same shit with their own agenda as well
at least in the sense of religion people have some sort of hope or faith that shit can get better..........and I'd rather people have that instead of just choosing atheism without an alternative to give them hope
Saying "not all black churches are like that, look at this one church" is like saying "not all HIV is deadly, look at Magic Johnson"
Malcolm X showed us not to be apologetic for the whole for the sake of the part. The whole of religion is destructive and repressive. That's what it's always been and always will be.
Faith demands ignorance. If you want hope, look at the great things humanity has accomplished through pure ingenuity. What you've overcome in your own life. You don't need a system of mythical ideological dogma to give your life structure.
skpjr78;c-9631067 said:(Nope);c-9631014 said:The Lonious Monk;c-9630609 said:(Nope);c-9630312 said:obnoxiouslyfresh;c-9628671 said:blackrain;c-9628388 said:Oh and @obnoxiouslyfresh normally you really do present good arguments for things...but you can't go from saying you're a woman of principle in the thread about boycotting Uber to in this thread going this hard defending a pastor who is knowingly not leading in the way a leader should because you think he's attractive and can talk slick enough to make you look past his flaws. This is probably the first time I can say you really do fit a negative stereotype of a black woman and I've seen you posting here for a long ass time defying many stereotypes these niggas throw at you...but on this one you fell right into it.
Actually, I wasn't defending him. I was defending myself against those who can't fathom how someone doesn't care about their pastor's marital indiscretions... which I'm sure is in line with what they believe is a minster's purpose, and that's where we differ. Discovering a corporation openly supports evil, for any reason, is cause to boycott them, or at least it is in my belief. To me, that's really simple and someone's marriage not being my business is also very simple.
@obnoxiouslyfresh you're good. You're not responsible for other peoples' feelings. This is some shit we do as men. We really want women to hold our feelings because we had expectations or fantasies of who they are based on who we are. It's bad ego boundaries. Disengage yo!
Quit caping. What you just said is nonsense. No one in here is criticizing her comments because of some misguided fantasy of who we believe OB is. From what I've seen, people seem to like OB in here, but she's not exactly placed on a pedestal when it comes to virtues, sensibilities, or anything else.
The fact of the matter is if you're a Christian you're supposed to represent yourself in a godly manner and you're supposed to be careful what you support because that will also reflect back on the faith and God. It doesn't take a genius to understand that. Just look at some of the comments in here. For example:
skpjr78;c-9627251 said:Christianity is the worse thing that ever happened to black people. Since coming into contact to with massa and white jesus we have lost everything including our souls and our minds.
The pastor was always massa's hand picked stooge who he personally selected to keep the negros in line. Pastor had a little bit of status amongst the rest of the negros b/c massa would let him sleep in the basement of the big house and b/c he ate pig ears while everyone else ate chitterlings. As long as pastor kept spreading the demonic words of white jesus and kept the field negros in line he was in good with massa and he reaped the benefits of that. Those benefits included access to as much plantation pussy as he wanted. And if anyone gave him any problems he would just go tell massa and have him put the overseer on them.
400 years later nothing much has changed. The pastor is still the white mans whore and he's still peddling his little trinckets that massa gave him to smash as many "God fearing, church going, good Christian sisters" as he can. Even when he gets caught the church will stand and applaud his sins. Smmfh. Christianity was the most destructive and devistating weapon that these devils have ever used against us.
People can take stances like that because of crooked preachers and the people like OB who support them. And those preachers and those supporters may not care, but God does because the point of the church is to bring more people to the faith. It's kinda hard to do that when both the pastor and the congregation behave as if it's all bullshit.
There are rules to being a Christian just like anything else. If you're not a believer or don't want to follow the rules, you shouldn't be false flagging because that only hurts the people who are actually trying to live the life right.
Whoa, slow down!
When @skpjr78 says some shit like "I thought you were better than that" it implies he had expectations for OB. Expectations she is not beholden to.
You do a lot of whining about SJWs, only to engage in similar nit-picking with folks with whom you have more commonalities than differences. And your reaction formation to anything perceived as 'feminist' is hostile. But, I'm not gonna' call that shit out, because it's only as relevant as you want to make it.
So, lets start with this shit
OB: "Actually, I wasn't defending him. I was defending myself against those who can't fathom how someone doesn't care about their pastor's marital indiscretions"
I think that's pretty clear, but you are still trying to pull the rug from under her feet.
You (in response to me): "The fact of the matter is if you're a Christian you're supposed to represent yourself in a godly manner and you're supposed to be careful what you support because that will also reflect back on the faith and God."
Are you Godly all the time? Do you stand up against every and all indiscretions of the church?
The fact of the matter is that OB is entitled to her values. How you feel about her values are a reflection of you and not her.
So lets run down what her stated values are: a good sermon, charity, and community.
What the fuck else do you need?
We give way to iniquity everyday when we wake up. Tell me I'm wrong in saying that Christians believe we are imperfect, that we are born sinners, and that the path to heaven is the forgiveness of Christ? That we should do our best to follow in Christ's footsteps of forgiveness because we can't do this without him?
Everything else is a value imposition on your part. That said, I AGREE that her pastor is on some bullshit, but she said as much. You guys are beating a dead horse. Literally 100's of posts about your feelings, but what I said is nonsense? Stop that!
Good luck tho, maybe you can convert her to your brand of self-righteousness.
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Boy you putting some miles on that cape today lol. The bolded undercut whatever point it was you were trying to make. What good does a sermon do if the actions totally contradict the words? Lol at charity and community. Who in their right mind would donate money to a church whose pastor got caught running a pyramid scheme? Even @obnoxiouslyfresh said she didnt put money in the plate b/c she knew the pastor wasnt shit.
obnoxiouslyfresh;c-9627274 said:Ok I'm gonna be honest. My pastor is a hoe. He's married and I know for a fact he knocked down a sunday school teacher. But he's in his 70s and is fine as hell so I almost kinda get it. The old ladies practically throw themselves at him. I just don't give to the collection cause I know he aint shit. But as a minister, I love his sermons.... I dont care.
Lol at community work. His pyramid scheme ripped off 900 ppl in the community. Fuck you talking bout?
Losen up that cape bruh. You got it tied around your neck too tight and its cutting off the air flow to your brain. Don't let OB and pastor pimpilicious make a fool out you.