BiblicalAtheist
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If those weren't great examples of lack of faith, idk what are.
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alissowack
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If only the preacher knew the difference between having faith in God and testing God. And even if there is "healing", I don't think it would be right for him to assume what it was ultimately meant for.
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alissowack;1626964 said:If only the preacher knew the difference between having faith in God and testing God. And even if there is "healing", I don't think it would be right for him to assume what it was ultimately meant for.
How is that 'testing' God? This man was a preacher, his wife says he devoted his life to God. He read his bible, prayed daily, had extreme faith. What more in a 'religious' sense are we asking for? This man is exhibiting what God asked for and in his situation nothing happened but suffering, pain and death.
How is there faith but then testing God at the same time? Testing to me would be like, "If you're real, do this". That's a test. What this man truly believed and hoped in was all faith, and it failed.
Same thing with the family praying for that woman and her feet.
How do you know it was testing God though?
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ThaChozenWun
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VIBE86;1627321 said:How is that 'testing' God? This man was a preacher, his wife says he devoted his life to God. He read his bible, prayed daily, had extreme faith. What more in a 'religious' sense are we asking for? This man is exhibiting what God asked for and in his situation nothing happened but suffering, pain and death.
How is there faith but then testing God at the same time? Testing to me would be like, "If you're real, do this". That's a test. What this man truly believed and hoped in was all faith, and it failed.
Same thing with the family praying for that woman and her feet.
How do you know it was testing God though?
Well some people will argue that instead of God healing him he "took" him so that he arrived at an even better place. Some people can't just be fuckin real and say the fat bastard died because he didn't get his shit fixed and infections and weight led to his heart attack.
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Are people really this retarded? First of all.... dude is 800 pounds. He already committed one of the deadly sins. Gluttony. Did he really worship god? No... he slapped god in the face and kept stuffing his. As far as the amputtee lady in the hospital.... I stopped watching the video long enough not to know what happened to her... I really don't care.... I'm sure she committee a deadly sin as well... Prayer lol People are so fuckin lazy and weak.
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alissowack
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ether-i-am;1627026 said:hmmmm so believing and having faith in god i.e. putting it in god's hands, is testing god?
man this bible god stuff is hard.
It depends on what you want God to do. If you want God to serve you in your "faith"...like some exchange, then you just might be testing Him. Who knows though.
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alissowack
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VIBE86;1627321 said:How is that 'testing' God? This man was a preacher, his wife says he devoted his life to God. He read his bible, prayed daily, had extreme faith. What more in a 'religious' sense are we asking for? This man is exhibiting what God asked for and in his situation nothing happened but suffering, pain and death.
How is there faith but then testing God at the same time? Testing to me would be like, "If you're real, do this". That's a test. What this man truly believed and hoped in was all faith, and it failed.
Same thing with the family praying for that woman and her feet.
How do you know it was testing God though?
Well, I can say I'm devoted to God but it doesn't mean so. And with the way people do horrible things in the name of God, who can trust them. The problem with faith is that we treated as a way to get something we want out of God and not as a way of depending on God regardless. Are we to truly know the intentions of the preacher that is doing this? Not really and maybe I shouldn't have made my previous post as a shot at him. But for him to not seek help may be a lack of faith in God that given the right doctors, he can be healed. Hey, with medical malpractice out there, it's going to take some faith. Sometimes the miraculous can lie in the ordinary.
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James 2:20
“But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?”
Dumbass nigga. This is the problem with religion. Too many idiots following it.
Let's say God does exist... im pretty sure he's the one who placed all these doctors and health experts on the planet to show him how to stay healthy.
But I know... science and human knowledge can't save you. Lmao
“But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?”
Dumbass nigga. This is the problem with religion. Too many idiots following it.
Let's say God does exist... im pretty sure he's the one who placed all these doctors and health experts on the planet to show him how to stay healthy.
But I know... science and human knowledge can't save you. Lmao
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b*braze;1628163 said:James 2:20
“But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?”
Dumbass nigga. This is the problem with religion. Too many idiots following it.
Let's say God does exist... im pretty sure he's the one who placed all these doctors and health experts on the planet to show him how to stay healthy.
But I know... science and human knowledge can't save you. Lmao
Yeah, God gave us a brain so we should use it in order to prevent ourselves from getting sick. God gave us everything we ever need growing out of planet earth.... Humans weren't satisfied with that, so we created mcdonalds to show god we don't need him.... oh wait, that is until that mcdonalds gives us cancer or diabeties... then all of a sudden, it's god's fault for letting us suffer and get sick... rofl... Oh and by God, I mean nature. Religious people can be moronic.
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KTULU IS BACK
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nature's pretty dangerous to human life, chike
if god created it, he's a huge sadist
if god created it, he's a huge sadist
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KTULU IS BACK;1628490 said:nature's pretty dangerous to human life, chike
if god created it, he's a huge sadist
The law of nature is only cruel to those who don't know how to obey those laws. If you follow those laws, you'll be just fine. I don't exactly call eating junk food and then getting sick because of it dangerous....
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VulcanRaven
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HAHAHAHA the religious freaks are so damn stupid man.It reminds me of that old Ice Cube skit about the man waiting for Jesus to come get him.I always say WTF when I'm at a funeral of someone who was murdered and the dumbass preacher says God called him home.Really ...so God sent them niggas to shoot him to death?
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VulcanRaven
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b*braze;1628163 said:James 2:20
“But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?”
Dumbass nigga. This is the problem with religion. Too many idiots following it.
Let's say God does exist... im pretty sure he's the one who placed all these doctors and health experts on the planet to show him how to stay healthy.
But I know... science and human knowledge can't save you. Lmao
Ah no because it took years for the medical field to get to where it is.Years of study,experimentation and trial and error.Doctors had to go through college and medical school to do what they do.No God had anything to do with their progress.It's all based on human work ethic.
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Disciplined InSight
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That preacher is dumb and poisoned by RELIGION...as a believer he should rely on his faith (trusting in what Yah says about healing in His Word) and GO TO THE DOCTOR because Yah himself gave us doctors... they have the technology and medicine. He should follow through on the physical aspect of healing as well as praying, trusting and believing in the spiritual aspect.
Smh @ that preacher....
Smh @ that preacher....
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Mad Jack;1628778 said:Ah no because it took years for the medical field to get to where it is.Years of study,experimentation and trial and error.Doctors had to go through college and medical school to do what they do.No God had anything to do with their progress.It's all based on human work ethic.
I agree.
That paragraph was me using their logic.
I don't know how you misunderstood that, but whatever.
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KTULU IS BACK
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Chike;1628602 said:The law of nature is only cruel to those who don't know how to obey those laws. If you follow those laws, you'll be just fine. I don't exactly call eating junk food and then getting sick because of it dangerous....
wtf are you talmbout?
bacteria, viruses, carnivorous animals
earthquakes, hurricanes, floods, lightning
you can "obey the laws" and still get killed for no reason
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KTULU IS BACK
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Disciplined InSight;1628804 said:That preacher is dumb and poisoned by RELIGION...as a believer he should rely on his faith (trusting in what Yah says about healing in His Word
so the Bible is not a religious text now
i swear, you people be making up the dumbest excuses for believing in fairy tales
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Israelites
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Disciplined InSight;1628804 said:That preacher is dumb and poisoned by RELIGION...as a believer he should rely on his faith (trusting in what Yah says about healing in His Word) and GO TO THE DOCTOR because Yah himself gave us doctors... they have the technology and medicine. He should follow through on the physical aspect of healing as well as praying, trusting and believing in the spiritual aspect.
Smh @ that preacher....
Exactly, your the only one making some sense
Religion is what most if not all these "scc" follow, they don't follow the Most High or Christ, they don't follow His Laws or Commandments nor the Holy Days outlined for us to honor..., but yet they feel if they just have faith everything will be ok, (that's blind faith at its finest), The book doesn't even teach to have blind faith..smh, we have to do our part & He does His part. ..simple as that..
Ppl need to stop following what their so called preacher says & get some understanding from the book.
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KTULU IS BACK;1628861 said:wtf are you talmbout?
bacteria, viruses, carnivorous animals
earthquakes, hurricanes, floods, lightning
you can "obey the laws" and still get killed for no reason
Earthquakes, hurricanes and floods are all territorial forces. Not everywhere on the earth has them. Humans have brains. When humans use them correctly, they can usually help prepare themselves for these situations. Bacteria? We have immune system. The only reason a bacteria that humans aren't prepared for surfaces, is when humans are living unhealthy slobbish lives to create environments suitable for sustaining deadly viruses like this.
Natural diseases and sicknesses all have cures that grow straight out of the ground, if humans are intelligent enough to do some research. Aids, and other ridiuclous so-called in-curable diseases are usually biologically created for warfare or genocide.
Animals? Easy, you see a lion? Stay the fuck away... rattle snake? Stay the fuck away. Don't want predators coming to your camp? Stop cooking meat and livestock. Eat what grows from the ground. Everything contains protein, even if it's a small amount. Humans weren't always eating meat, so how did they survive before they discovered fire? There's no excuse. Life is not handed to anyone, but it's not impossible, and if you're mentally capable, it's not really that hard. Yes, there's obstacles... but there's more than enough solutions.
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