What's up?
I'm doing good. Everything's cool.
What have you been up to lately?
I've been around. You probably heard me and didn't know it was me. I did some side projects. I did the John Cena album and I did some video games. I've been staying active in the studio. That's the place where it all happens. You get out in the streets and live your life and come in here and detail it out. You put your life in music. I've been in here working on the American Black Man album.
How's that coming?
It's coming well. I recorded somewhere close to 180 songs, maybe 190 songs, over the last year, just trying to find a different angle. I never stop recording. I go out, I do what I do, and I come in here. Unlike most people, I own a full-blown studio. I don't rent studios and this isn't a rinky-dink studio. I wanted to build a place where I could record my records and master them as well. I go hard. I record every day.
How would you compare the joints we've heard from your Street Triumph mixtape to what's on the album?
The album stuff has a lot of my new flows. A lot of the stuff you're hearing now was done throughout my career. Some of those flows are dated. It shows my growth and evolution in the game. Some of the stuff where I go hard in my lyrics, I was doing it because there were fans who liked me to rhyme hard. Some fans don't like me to. It's good for me to hear the feedback and everyone can't like everything. If everything is one-sided, then it's wrong.
When are you going to drop the Street Triumph mixtape?
It'll come out around July 20. I'm going to drop it in July.
My favorite line from "Gangsta Boogie" is when you said "I've never let the rap game prostitute me." How deep is that to you?
The thing is, if you're not willing to sacrifice some of your time, some of your energy, some of your strength, and some of your creative thoughts to making yourself better, than you're not really doing what we call artistry. My first experience with the majors was not a good one for me and I refuse to relive that. I dedicated myself to putting that out and not living that life. You don't talk what you don't live because that's fake. I wanted to do my own distribution deals and everything else. Not everyone is built for that fight. I'd rather have the dignity and honor of not sending someone else's kids to college while mine are stuck in the hood when they grow up. I didn't want to do that. I wanted to really live my life like I make my music, and that's hardcore and raw.
Can you ever be too hardcore for this industry?
No. I do it for the love of hip-hop. The problem is you have a bunch of dick-riders who hear somebody's record and they ride that shit until the wheels fall off and then they jump on someone else's bandwagon. You have fans who only like what's hot at the moment. I have fans who ride with me whether I have a record out of not. I drop a record whenever I want. Not a lot of people can do that, but I can do that. When I'm ready to come back to work, I come back to work. I get to spend time with my family and do what I want. All of my hiatuses are at my own discretion. A lot of people say they're ballers and bosses, but they're hustling for a big corporation. I have lawyers I can call at home and when I go to the bank, I go to meet the president because I want to know who I'm dealing with. All these other clowns, they want what I call "nigga pennies" which is small money. To me, they're disrespectful not only to themselves but to the artistry of hip-hop as well. The only thing they're thinking about his how fast they can make a video and get on TV. The same stores that sell records from Sony and BMG, my records are in the same store. They may be harder to find, but the people who are my true fans find them.
You actually consider yourself an MC instead of other dudes who liken themselves to "a hustler who raps" and titles of that nature. How do you feel about these "hustlers"?
I think it's funny. I laugh. When I'm making records, there's a part of my life that makes me a hustler. What makes me a hustler is I know how to get up and get what I need for my family. If I tell somebody I will punch their face into their body, I'm being an MC, but when I punch your face off your body, I'm doing it as a man with a big-ass fist. I'm a real dude. A lot of these guys are like the George Jetson dinner. You put a pea on a plate and pour water on it and that's dinner. These guys are crafted from other people's lives. The bad part is when you call a coward a coward, it makes him brave. He wants to prove he's not a coward and he'll want to do something to prove he's not a coward. I listen to all that hustler shit and these niggas aren't hustlers. I haven't seen an active crack block in a long time.
Jay-Z beat the crack-rap to death. Should everyone move on from the crack?
Of course. It's disgusting. In my eyes, I think Jay-Z is a dope rapper. I think Jay-Z is talented as a motherfucker, man. But right now, I think Jay-Z is acting like his father is Thirsting Howell the Third. He's acting like a rich-ass white boy whose family has $800 billion dollars. He's not in touch with people. A lot of people are going to say this behind his back, but I don't care because I don't see me getting any money with the motherfucker. There are a lot of people I know who say Jay-Z fronted on him. I tried to reach out to Jay once or twice, and I know he doesn't want to sit down with me on some business. As far as I'm concerned, Jay doesn't even really represent the streets. He represents it from a rap level. He's in a high-rise doing his thing. If he came from Marcy projects, like I believe he did, then he needs to go back and kick it with some of the young rappers. He's on that snob shit. We've heard all those crack records. How many more can we have? He's a dope MC and he rhymes his ass off, but I think he needs to stretch his subject matter out a little more and keep selling good records. All that businessman corporate bullshit, and that's all good, but remember you have a lot of people who came up with you and you can't let them sink because you have a lot of money and a so-called position.
Has Jay lost his hip-hop roots?
I don't think he lost them, but I don't think he really cares to stay in touch with them. I think Jay-Z is a very good businessman. He's sharp. There's a certain way you act with people when you front on niggas who helped you get up to the top like that, then that's when you become a shitbag. It is what it is.
When I talked to Jaz-O, he said Jay-Z has a lot of yes-men around him. Who do you keep around you for feedback and support?
I got guys around me. Some of these guys, I grew up with. I got guys like my man Kap. Me and Kap were in pre-kindergarten together. He's still around me. He knows every rhyme I ever wrote. Sometimes before I go on stage, I forget my song order. He's like my human computer. He knows every rhyme I ever wrote in my life. My man Rocky is still with me. We were running around in the streets doing all crazy things. These are true friends. They don't hang out with me because they feel they can make a few dollars. All that stuff will happen regardless. I try to minimize my people because a man can't get rich with an army. You have to make sure your soldiers are strong and honest with you. Imagine if the President of the United States rolled around with a lot of yes-men. It would be a disaster.