Florida State will be the florida team of this decade

[Ace Boon]

*gille da kid gif*

who's supposed to be the next coach at fsu?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

If any team replaces the Gators in Florida it will be Miami.

 

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*gille da kid gif*

who's supposed to be the next coach at fsu?

The one that took the 110th ranked offense and now had back to back top 20 offenses. The one that took the rivals 33rd ranked recruiting class and in 4 weeks after Bobby retired has brought it into the top 10 (and out recruited Meyer and Saban). The one whose offense won a National Championship, and after he left, that old team (LSU)'s offense fell in the crapper.

SEC like recruiter, outstanding QB coach (Ponder was one of the top 5 QBs in total offense before he got hurt this year), outstanding coordinator, and surrounding himself with a great staff (maybe the most important aspect of a head coach....putting together a staff) of young, fresh, innovative, fiery coaches.

Gone are the days where talented players received zero coaching.

 

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If any team replaces the Gators in Florida it will be Miami.

With Randy Shannon as head coach? Yeah right....

 

[killap]

The U niggas run u niggas ask Jacory Harris, FSU get gunned up and clapped quick, JJ Fisher get gunned up and clapped quick, your whole damn team get gunned up and clapped quick.

Urban Meyer's a bitch though I see FSU stole Matt Elam from UF good pick up

 

[dc's teflondon]

The U is going to be running florida

 

[datguyj]

The U is going to be running florida

C/S..............

 

[d.green]

Did you see the Under Armour all-star game? Florida is loading up on recruits. Meyer corrected his mistake.

Florida Gators will continue to run Florida. Jimbo Fisher is a fraud, he's been at FSU for a while now and nothing changed much.

Shannon is failing on the recruiting trail and is about to lose his OC WHipple to Bll Cowher (wherever he coaches next season).

Good luck traveling to Columbus, OH next season.

I hear Elam may be switching from FSU to UF in the end. He's flip flopped his entire commitment though, so who knows but he was UF all year long and has known Meyer since he was a young kid. Meyer recruited his older brother back in the day.

FSU is getting a good class though with Luc, Joyner, Shaw, maybe Elam and will probably sign Christian Green and Christian Jones

 

[d.green]

The one that took the 110th ranked offense and now had back to back top 20 offenses. The one that took the rivals 33rd ranked recruiting class and in 4 weeks after Bobby retired has brought it into the top 10 (and out recruited Meyer and Saban). The one whose offense won a National Championship, and after he left, that old team (LSU)'s offense fell in the crapper.

SEC like recruiter, outstanding QB coach (Ponder was one of the top 5 QBs in total offense before he got hurt this year), outstanding coordinator, and surrounding himself with a great staff (maybe the most important aspect of a head coach....putting together a staff) of young, fresh, innovative, fiery coaches.

Gone are the days where talented players received zero coaching.

Think Saban leaving LSU had had more to do with their offense and entire team going down than Jimbo leaving.

Outrecruited Meyer? How? Meyer has #1 class and just added Dunkley and Easley. See earlier post on Matt Elam also.

FSU offense has been weak before and after Jimbo. He just hired a Def Coord who gave up 33 points to Nebraska.

Guess we'll see though.

 

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Did you see the game? What I remember is terrible OL and QB prospects throwing balls up for grabs and hoping and praying for something good to happen. Easley was certainly impressive, but other than that what i watched was essentially an alley an fest. [/B]

Florida is loading up on recruits. Meyer corrected his mistake.

FSU is loading up on Florida recruits and for the first time in a long time will win the florida recruiting battle..dont believe me? FSU will likely sign the top 5 players in Florida (check FLA Varsity top 100 in florida) and not Rivals top 100 in florida). Michael L will be updating the top 100, but even he said FSU will easily have the most commits in his updated top 100, especially towards the top. Mack Brown and Dorsey are still wavering, and Dorsey might be another Willie Downs. Plus, UF is not going to heck Powell, Henderson, or Hicks.

Florida Gators will continue to run Florida. Jimbo Fisher is a fraud, he's been at FSU for a while now and nothing changed much.

Nothing has changed? Talk what you know. FSU's offense was terrible prior to Jimbo, and now he has a top 20 offense and the best offense in the conference two years in a row. Before you bring up UF (and I know you will), keep in mind that UFs defense dominated much of their opponents and FSU was starting a RS Freshman in only his third start and was missing their All American guard. I still think FSU would have lost because their defense was terrible, but if Ponder and Hudson played that game would have looked different. Jimbo only controlled the offense, he had ZERO authority over the defense or even the offensive line. He only had authority over the backs and receivers. This is why Bobby was pushed out, because of the lack of authority given to Jimbo on coaching hires, changes in personell, and philosophy. There was discontent within the coaching staff with two different opinions on how to even recruit and early playing time. Jimbo believed in early playing time which is why he started freshman. Mickey Andrews and Chuck Amato did not which is why they started upperclassman over more talented freshman like Greg Reid, Brandon Jenkins, Moses Mcrary, Nigel Carr, Terrence Parks, Jacobbi McDaniel. Case in point, a walk on DE started against Miami and West Virginia to be "rewarded" for his hard play as a 6th year senior. Let alone the fact that he sucks. That wont happen under Jimbo....and it certainly was not his fault the defenses were giving up 40 points even when his offense scored 40 points. To put blame on Jimbo for the inept coaching from the other coaches is silly.

Shannon is failing on the recruiting trail and is about to lose his OC WHipple to Bll Cowher (wherever he coaches next season).
Good luck traveling to Columbus, OH next season.

I hear Elam may be switching from FSU to UF in the end.

Elam is going to enrol next week. Its only Gators with hurt feelings that think otherwise.

He's flip flopped his entire commitment though, so who knows but he was UF all year long and has known Meyer since he was a young kid. Meyer recruited his older brother back in the day.

Yeah and Meyer lied to his face on the last visit when Elam firmed up his commitment. He was all set to enroll early and then he found out that the dude was quitting? Elam does not trust Meyer anymore . He said in an interview he was never commited to the Gators, he was commited to Meyer. With Meyer proving to be a liar and a bigger flip flopper than Elam, that bridge has been burned.

FSU is getting a good class though with Luc, Joyner, Shaw, maybe Elam and will probably sign Christian Green and Christian Jones

Add in Lemonior (IMO), Terrence Mitchell, with Dent being bumped up as a top 25 player in Florida, and Nigel Terell being bumped to a 4 star, and with a shot at Mack Brown if he decommits (which likely happens if coach Carter leaves to Louisville) and you have the best class in the state.

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Think Saban leaving LSU had had more to do with their offense and entire team going down than Jimbo leaving.

Huh? Saban is a defensive specialist and never coached the offense. Saban did not coach Jamarcus Russell, Saban did not call the plays, and Saban did not decide what type of offense to run. That was all Jimbo and when Jimbo left, the LSU offense has steadily declined. That LSU offense is now one of the worse offenses in the country, even with a ton of NFL talent. Since Jimbo left, LSU averaged 440 yards, then 309, then 368, and now 309 yards a game. Jimbo leaving had nothing to do with that? Well how about FSU averaging 343 yards in the three years before Jimbo came and averaging 400 yards and over 32 points since Jimbo came. Nothing to do with Jimbo?


Outrecruited Meyer? How? Meyer has #1 class and just added Dunkley and Easley.

Im talking about head to head battles. FSU and UF dont really go head to head for recruits as much as they use to do, but when Jimbo is going head to head for recruits against Saban and Meyer (Reid, Elam, Luc, Joyner, Debose, Julio, Jermaine Thomas, Gary Brown) he is getting his piece of the pie at the same rate they are. And this year, Jimbos class, despite the bull that went down with Bowden, is going to be more highly thought of than Meyers.

FSU offense has been weak before and after Jimbo.

Ignorance is your friend, I see.

He just hired a Def Coord who gave up 33 points to Nebraska.

And someone who coached and recruited great DBs like Ed Reed, Sean Taylor, Antone Cason, Phillip Buchanon, etc. Ten gave up nearly 500 yards and 30 something points to Virginia Tech...does that mean Monte Kiffen is not a good coach? The same Monte Kiffen that stifled Bama and UF? How about in conference play, where Arizona has limited USC to under 20 points the past four seasons? Bowl games, especially for a lame duck coach, is a whole nother monster. And its not like Zona is exactly loaded with talent. And I guess you also dont care that Arizona had something like 100 yards of total offense against Nebraska. A tired defense that is on the field for the majority of the game and only gives up 390 yards is def forgivable, given the context of the situation. He also hired Greg Hudson to be the LB coach, someone that could have easily been a DC or even a head coach somewhere else. He also hired Gran away from Ten, a great recruiter that will be involved with Mack Brown if he decommits. Gone are the days where FSU talent wont get good coaching from assistants. Coach Cooley will likely be one of the recruiting coordinators of the year by Rivals, and there are at least 5 other great recruiters on the staff along with a master QB coach. Ponder was easily All ACC and playing like the best QB in the state prior to his injury.

Guess we'll see though.

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[d.green]

Lemonier going to FSU would be a huge miss on Shannon. Guess we'll see on that one too.

FSU has a little ways to go to finish #1 in Florida recruiting. Ok, Luc , Joyner(overrated), Dent and Elam are at least four star commits from in-state per Scout.com (since u dont like rivals). That's about it...Dent isnt a 4 start but i'll add him in there anyway.

UF has Dunkley, Dorsey, Dowling , Riggs, Trail, J.Watkins, G.Christian, Orr, Silberman, Watkins are all at least 4 star in--state commits for UF.

If FSU closes with C.Green, C.Jones, Lemonier, etc then "maybe" they will win the recruiting war in-state.

Elam submitted paperwork to FSU and UF to enroll early so again we'll see. If he goes to FSU, then good for him he probably could start right now over those safeties there now.

Recruiting can change at any minute so anything can happen before signing day. Jimbo selling "what if's" right now. He'll have to prove it next year. I'm actually hoping he's decent and he doesnt embarrass the state anymore than FSU has recently.

 

[d.green]

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Think Saban leaving LSU had had more to do with their offense and entire team going down than Jimbo leaving.

Huh? Saban is a defensive specialist and never coached the offense. Saban did not coach Jamarcus Russell, Saban did not call the plays, and Saban did not decide what type of offense to run. That was all Jimbo and when Jimbo left, the LSU offense has steadily declined. That LSU offense is now one of the worse offenses in the country, even with a ton of NFL talent. Since Jimbo left, LSU averaged 440 yards, then 309, then 368, and now 309 yards a game. Jimbo leaving had nothing to do with that? Well how about FSU averaging 343 yards in the three years before Jimbo came and averaging 400 yards and over 32 points since Jimbo came. Nothing to do with Jimbo?

Outrecruited Meyer? How? Meyer has #1 class and just added Dunkley and Easley.

Im talking about head to head battles. FSU and UF dont really go head to head for recruits as much as they use to do, but when Jimbo is going head to head for recruits against Saban and Meyer (Reid, Elam, Luc, Joyner, Debose, Julio, Jermaine Thomas, Gary Brown) he is getting his piece of the pie at the same rate they are. And this year, Jimbos class, despite the bull that went down with Bowden, is going to be more highly thought of than Meyers.

FSU offense has been weak before and after Jimbo.

Ignorance is your friend, I see.

He just hired a Def Coord who gave up 33 points to Nebraska.

And someone who coached and recruited great DBs like Ed Reed, Sean Taylor, Antone Cason, Phillip Buchanon, etc. Ten gave up nearly 500 yards and 30 something points to Virginia Tech...does that mean Monte Kiffen is not a good coach? The same Monte Kiffen that stifled Bama and UF? How about in conference play, where Arizona has limited USC to under 20 points the past four seasons? Bowl games, especially for a lame duck coach, is a whole nother monster. And its not like Zona is exactly loaded with talent. And I guess you also dont care that Arizona had something like 100 yards of total offense against Nebraska. A tired defense that is on the field for the majority of the game and only gives up 390 yards is def forgivable, given the context of the situation. He also hired Greg Hudson to be the LB coach, someone that could have easily been a DC or even a head coach somewhere else. He also hired Gran away from Ten, a great recruiter that will be involved with Mack Brown if he decommits. Gone are the days where FSU talent wont get good coaching from assistants. Coach Cooley will likely be one of the recruiting coordinators of the year by Rivals, and there are at least 5 other great recruiters on the staff along with a master QB coach. Ponder was easily All ACC and playing like the best QB in the state prior to his injury.

Guess we'll see though.

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My point was that Saban leaving had more to do with LSU woes offensively and defensively than Jimbo leaving (in my opinion). Not too mention Jimbo left when Russell and company left, so LSU was starting over with a new QB anyway.

In regards to Jimbo winning battles........Reid was UF then chose FSU because of the depth chart (see Haden, Jenkins, etc)...not JIMBO. HE said the stacked UF depth chart was the reason.

If Elam goes to FSU it wasnt b/c of Jimbo but b/c Meyer resigned for 24hrs. UF never offered Jermaine Thomas from First Coast.

Luc said when Strong left he dropped UF but I think he was going to FSU all along since his brother was FSU and his mother didnt want him in Miami.

Monte Kiffin is legendary DC, you cant even compare that to coaching DBs at Miami. I could've coached Ed Reed and Sean Taylor at Miami.

Who has he coached since leaving Miami?!? Then again maybe he will be a great DC at FSU. Like I said, guess we'll see on that too.

 

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Oh I like rivals, at least I like rivals more than ESPN and Scout. But I was saying when it came to the Florida top 100, I trust Michael L and flavarsity.com over the rivals florida top 100. Since Michael L only covers the state and has a lot more access to Florida prospects that the experts at Rivals. Flavarsity is a rivals site.

 

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I was saying that Saban did not coach the offense, so I dont know how him leaving had a bigger impact on the offense than Jimbo. Jimbo is the one that choose the offense type and coached the Matt Maucks of the world.

Jimbo went head to head with Miles and Saban for Jermaine Thomas. Jimbo went head to head with Saban for Greg Reid, and Reid. It was not depth chart that made him choose FSU over Bama since the depth chart was favorable at Bama. He stated the night he picked that it came down to where he felt the most comfortable and the distance. If Meyers tie to Elam is so strong, Elams mom loves Meyer, and his coach wanted him to go to UF...then why cant Meyer pull him back in? Its funny, in one sentence you say that UF still has a shot at Elam but on the other hand if FSU signs him then downplay FSU pulling him in. If it still wasnt a head to head battle, then you not be bringing up any rumors you hear of Elam switching back to UF.

Stoops coached the best Arizona defender in their history, Cason, and his defenses have been top 30 in the country...while he hasnt had a ton of individual standouts when recruiting players from Arizona, but his team still plays team defense that has been very solid with mediocore talent. You dont think with the talent he will have at FSU he wont be producing top secondaries like he did at Miami?

FSU is going to sign the top players in Florida and according to Flavarsity (heck even rivals) they could sign the top 5 players in the state. Dent will be bumped up to a 4 star as will Nigel Terell in the next updates, and I would be shocked if FSU does not get the Christians and Terrence Mitchell. UF class is good, but I still think they lose Mack Brown and Dorsey and strike out with the 5 stars from outside of the state that they previously had a good chance at.

 

[d.green]

I was saying that Saban did not coach the offense, so I dont know how him leaving had a bigger impact on the offense than Jimbo. Jimbo is the one that choose the offense type and coached the Matt Maucks of the world.

Jimbo went head to head with Miles and Saban for Jermaine Thomas. Jimbo went head to head with Saban for Greg Reid, and Reid. It was not depth chart that made him choose FSU over Bama since the depth chart was favorable at Bama. He stated the night he picked that it came down to where he felt the most comfortable and the distance. If Meyers tie to Elam is so strong, Elams mom loves Meyer, and his coach wanted him to go to UF...then why cant Meyer pull him back in? Its funny, in one sentence you say that UF still has a shot at Elam but on the other hand if FSU signs him then downplay FSU pulling him in. If it still wasnt a head to head battle, then you not be bringing up any rumors you hear of Elam switching back to UF.

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oh ok, I guess FSU did beat Bama for Reid "after" he was scared off by UF's depth chart after being committed there for a year.

Not downplaying Elam if that happens, but the reality is if not for Meyer doing what he did last week FSU probably wouldnt even be in the picture. I think he was actually liking WVU as his #2 before Doc Holiday left for Marshall.

Cason is Zona's best player ever? I thought McCallister was probably their best defender but could be wrong.

FSU has reasons to be optimistic but i just have to see it happen first. It would be good for the state in my opinion.

 

[usmarin3]

Yall are barely the 3rd best in Florida, i wouldnt be surprised if UCF and USF jump yall and that shitty ass campus of yours. I just need Keith Tribble to fire George O'leary and bring in Charlie Strong here at UCF; as far as USF they can go fuck themselves.

 

[killap]

Yall are barely the 3rd best in Florida, i wouldnt be surprised if UCF and USF jump yall and that shitty ass campus of yours. I just need Keith Tribble to fire George O'leary and bring in Charlie Strong here at UCF; as far as USF they can go fuck themselves.

FSU is far ahead of UCF and will be until UCF can move up in conference

UF
UM
FSU
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then
USF
UCF
FAU
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then
Dwyer High School
Plant High school
FIU

in that order

 

[Alpha_Ambition]

that grip be callin

 

[darkstarr8]

LOL, Florida State is where 5 star recruits go to die.