Fair or foul: Marquise Jackson Says Dad 50 Cents Needs Therapy

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2stepz_ahead;9424080 said:
jono;9424036 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424033 said:
jono;9424024 said:
He has a right to dictate terms. Parents, especially absentee parents, aren't owed a relationship. It is what it is.

ok, his father being absent wasn't because he wasn't shit.

the man did provide them a lifestyle he would not have got without his father working like he does.

an how can a person so young say someone has issues with themselves.

Lifestyle is irrelevant, the kid doesn't really benefit from much from what 50 has been doing. They been going back and forth IN PUBLIC in for years.

He knows 50 better than you or I, he might know him well enough to say the nigga ain't normal.

This is DMX/Xavier all over again. Time after time we see that personal selfishness damages family life.

but how can you say 50 is selfish? I allowed his ex stay in one of his houses...rent free.

this chick didn't have to work. all he said was he ain't gonna take care of a nigga if she moves one in...which she did..an you know the story.

regardless, yes he may know a different 50 than you an I, but a child saying the parent needs therapy? nah

an lifestyle does have something to do with this..he didn't have to grow up like his father did and the money his mother give him comes from the father paying her.

nigga had druglords trynna kill him. niggas shooting at radio stations and hotels, mom drugged out an killed while he was young...

an this lil nigga says someone needs help an only after he's open for reconciliation? that don't sound a bit entitled to you?

50 is ego driven.

All this shit about drug lords was stuff he did before this kid was born, its not the kid's responsibility to make sense of that. The rest after was shit 50 got himself into it. He wanted to live a certain life, beef comes with it.

No. A kid is entitled to both parents, all this public shit with 50 been going on for years. He's jaded, rightfully so, if he feels something is between them and he wants that healed first ain't no problem with stating that
 
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zzombie;9424101 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424093 said:
zzombie;9424085 said:
all parents have a responsibility to make sure their children are educated. University is expensive so in this case 50 cent should pay it even aside from the school fees sending a child to university is very expensive.

When you are family YOU don't need decades of life experience to see when your loved one has emotional and personality issues

but they act like they don't wanna fukk with him but want him to send a check.

I agree you can see when a loved one needs help....but usually it's a loved one who has some experience with real life to know that.

we are not talking a druggie or abuser or career criminal.

I would agree with you if the kid was not going to school... but in this case they really might need the money and i really don't think you need much life experience realize if your parents are slightly unbalanced

50 did cuss the him out and cut ties with him over nonsense so it's not like marquise does not have a good argument.

I am sure you seen kids who was poisoned against the other parent , so the kid acts from what they hear or what BS was feed to them.

being of age now. why the mother still need support? for the kids tuition? ok, how long this lil nigga plan on staying in school? an he can pay it directly to the school. she doesn't need to touch it.

but again, If you don't fukk with the dad, don't fukk with his money.

honestly from what I know from the pass, it seems like he was brainwashed into thinking his dad wasn't shit. alot of men would most likely take the same stance.

I just can't see a father needing to prove something to his child after dad provided and tried.

 
jono;9424105 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424080 said:
jono;9424036 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424033 said:
jono;9424024 said:
He has a right to dictate terms. Parents, especially absentee parents, aren't owed a relationship. It is what it is.

ok, his father being absent wasn't because he wasn't shit.

the man did provide them a lifestyle he would not have got without his father working like he does.

an how can a person so young say someone has issues with themselves.

Lifestyle is irrelevant, the kid doesn't really benefit from much from what 50 has been doing. They been going back and forth IN PUBLIC in for years.

He knows 50 better than you or I, he might know him well enough to say the nigga ain't normal.

This is DMX/Xavier all over again. Time after time we see that personal selfishness damages family life.

but how can you say 50 is selfish? I allowed his ex stay in one of his houses...rent free.

this chick didn't have to work. all he said was he ain't gonna take care of a nigga if she moves one in...which she did..an you know the story.

regardless, yes he may know a different 50 than you an I, but a child saying the parent needs therapy? nah

an lifestyle does have something to do with this..he didn't have to grow up like his father did and the money his mother give him comes from the father paying her.

nigga had druglords trynna kill him. niggas shooting at radio stations and hotels, mom drugged out an killed while he was young...

an this lil nigga says someone needs help an only after he's open for reconciliation? that don't sound a bit entitled to you?

50 is ego driven.

All this shit about drug lords was stuff he did before this kid was born, its not the kid's responsibility to make sense of that. The rest after was shit 50 got himself into it. He wanted to live a certain life, beef comes with it.

No. A kid is entitled to both parents, all this public shit with 50 been going on for years. He's jaded, rightfully so, if he feels something is between them and he wants that healed first ain't no problem with stating that

an that's why they go together....

if a relationship is broken, both people need to go.

his son just denied any responsibility for where they are and put it all on his dad.
 
Before even going into it with depth his son isn't old enough or experienced enough in life to be calling out his pops like that. He might actually be accurate but he has no idea what he is actually talking about.

He is a brat influenced by a bird. His point of view is flawed.

Me and my older brother used to butt heads when I was younger and I hated him for that shit but it wasn't till now that I sat back and said to myself dude was in and out of juve as a kid, his pops wasn't around for him at all unlike me, amongst other things stacking the deck against him. He had a hard time compared to me having it relatively easy, my only obstacle was him and I didn't have the life experience and knowledge I do now to handle that accordingly.

I feel marquise is stuck in that same boat where there is no way for him to understand 50 because life for them is 2 very different things 2 very different experiences. Hopefully he gets to a place of understanding before it's too late.
 
2stepz_ahead;9424111 said:
jono;9424105 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424080 said:
jono;9424036 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424033 said:
jono;9424024 said:
He has a right to dictate terms. Parents, especially absentee parents, aren't owed a relationship. It is what it is.

ok, his father being absent wasn't because he wasn't shit.

the man did provide them a lifestyle he would not have got without his father working like he does.

an how can a person so young say someone has issues with themselves.

Lifestyle is irrelevant, the kid doesn't really benefit from much from what 50 has been doing. They been going back and forth IN PUBLIC in for years.

He knows 50 better than you or I, he might know him well enough to say the nigga ain't normal.

This is DMX/Xavier all over again. Time after time we see that personal selfishness damages family life.

but how can you say 50 is selfish? I allowed his ex stay in one of his houses...rent free.

this chick didn't have to work. all he said was he ain't gonna take care of a nigga if she moves one in...which she did..an you know the story.

regardless, yes he may know a different 50 than you an I, but a child saying the parent needs therapy? nah

an lifestyle does have something to do with this..he didn't have to grow up like his father did and the money his mother give him comes from the father paying her.

nigga had druglords trynna kill him. niggas shooting at radio stations and hotels, mom drugged out an killed while he was young...

an this lil nigga says someone needs help an only after he's open for reconciliation? that don't sound a bit entitled to you?

50 is ego driven.

All this shit about drug lords was stuff he did before this kid was born, its not the kid's responsibility to make sense of that. The rest after was shit 50 got himself into it. He wanted to live a certain life, beef comes with it.

No. A kid is entitled to both parents, all this public shit with 50 been going on for years. He's jaded, rightfully so, if he feels something is between them and he wants that healed first ain't no problem with stating that

an that's why they go together....

if a relationship is broken, both people need to go.

his son just denied any responsibility for where they are and put it all on his dad.

50 is the elder. He's the father. He need to set the example. He literally the bigger man.

I don't disagree with what you said though
 
zzombie;9424089 said:
Recaptimus_Prime360;9424060 said:
Foh nigga!

You a damn adult. He didn't mind reaping the lifestyle benefits his father provided him AND his mama.

19 year olds are not really adults being too fast the push your children out the door is another reason black people economic struggle so much

Nobody can argue about whether or not having parental support at this age is good...it's always good. However $6,700 a month is more than enough to stay afloat in college. You don't need more than ~$7,000 a month...that's a salary...a DAMN good salary. Homie makin 80k a year to go to school. That's not even close to economically struggling.

Also....there's a difference between pushing your child out the door and pushing your child to realize their potential. There's nothing wrong with helping out your child (I'm a 21 year old college kid...my parents have thrown me some money on occasion)...but still, this is when you're supposed to be pushing yourself to leave the house. I'm always welcome back at my home...but in between visits I'm steady working to lay the foundation for a place my future children will call home. This is when homie needs to be pushed to finance his own dreams...get his own money...make something of his own name...just like his father did. At 19...you have a safety net to fall back on if you fail...this is the time to let him grown and try to stand on his own two feet...NOT increase the child support for a grown adult.

And that analysis is based off the situation...if it were different...if he legitimately needed money for school...I'd probably feel differently. I know people on campus who don't get enough for child support...and they have to work in addition to use child support for school. So I have no empathy for a grown man making 80k a year in child support.

 
2stepz_ahead;9424094 said:
CeLLaR-DooR;9424053 said:
One's son should be a good judge of one's mind state.

but if said son was raised by a bitter woman can that still be true?

Why not. Nuff of us were probably raised by bitter women man especially those of us without a dad.

Anyway he knows his dad better than we do. He knows what behaviours are normal and which aren't.

 
jono;9424117 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424111 said:
jono;9424105 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424080 said:
jono;9424036 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424033 said:
jono;9424024 said:
He has a right to dictate terms. Parents, especially absentee parents, aren't owed a relationship. It is what it is.

ok, his father being absent wasn't because he wasn't shit.

the man did provide them a lifestyle he would not have got without his father working like he does.

an how can a person so young say someone has issues with themselves.

Lifestyle is irrelevant, the kid doesn't really benefit from much from what 50 has been doing. They been going back and forth IN PUBLIC in for years.

He knows 50 better than you or I, he might know him well enough to say the nigga ain't normal.

This is DMX/Xavier all over again. Time after time we see that personal selfishness damages family life.

but how can you say 50 is selfish? I allowed his ex stay in one of his houses...rent free.

this chick didn't have to work. all he said was he ain't gonna take care of a nigga if she moves one in...which she did..an you know the story.

regardless, yes he may know a different 50 than you an I, but a child saying the parent needs therapy? nah

an lifestyle does have something to do with this..he didn't have to grow up like his father did and the money his mother give him comes from the father paying her.

nigga had druglords trynna kill him. niggas shooting at radio stations and hotels, mom drugged out an killed while he was young...

an this lil nigga says someone needs help an only after he's open for reconciliation? that don't sound a bit entitled to you?

50 is ego driven.

All this shit about drug lords was stuff he did before this kid was born, its not the kid's responsibility to make sense of that. The rest after was shit 50 got himself into it. He wanted to live a certain life, beef comes with it.

No. A kid is entitled to both parents, all this public shit with 50 been going on for years. He's jaded, rightfully so, if he feels something is between them and he wants that healed first ain't no problem with stating that

an that's why they go together....

if a relationship is broken, both people need to go.

his son just denied any responsibility for where they are and put it all on his dad.

50 is the elder. He's the father. He need to set the example. He literally the bigger man.

I don't disagree with what you said though

but even with being the bigger man an elder....how much can a man take?

I am sure he made mistakes and its not like he didnt try.

most of the time the mother comes in an fukks it up.

I have seen kids who love their fathers regardless of all the shit...but that is because the mother allows them two to develop a relationship without her input.

most fathers and sons will eventually get into a pissing contest. they need to work it out.

but when you have bitterness in your ear... it takes in a whole new dimension.
 
2stepz_ahead;9424128 said:
jono;9424117 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424111 said:
jono;9424105 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424080 said:
jono;9424036 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424033 said:
jono;9424024 said:
He has a right to dictate terms. Parents, especially absentee parents, aren't owed a relationship. It is what it is.

ok, his father being absent wasn't because he wasn't shit.

the man did provide them a lifestyle he would not have got without his father working like he does.

an how can a person so young say someone has issues with themselves.

Lifestyle is irrelevant, the kid doesn't really benefit from much from what 50 has been doing. They been going back and forth IN PUBLIC in for years.

He knows 50 better than you or I, he might know him well enough to say the nigga ain't normal.

This is DMX/Xavier all over again. Time after time we see that personal selfishness damages family life.

but how can you say 50 is selfish? I allowed his ex stay in one of his houses...rent free.

this chick didn't have to work. all he said was he ain't gonna take care of a nigga if she moves one in...which she did..an you know the story.

regardless, yes he may know a different 50 than you an I, but a child saying the parent needs therapy? nah

an lifestyle does have something to do with this..he didn't have to grow up like his father did and the money his mother give him comes from the father paying her.

nigga had druglords trynna kill him. niggas shooting at radio stations and hotels, mom drugged out an killed while he was young...

an this lil nigga says someone needs help an only after he's open for reconciliation? that don't sound a bit entitled to you?

50 is ego driven.

All this shit about drug lords was stuff he did before this kid was born, its not the kid's responsibility to make sense of that. The rest after was shit 50 got himself into it. He wanted to live a certain life, beef comes with it.

No. A kid is entitled to both parents, all this public shit with 50 been going on for years. He's jaded, rightfully so, if he feels something is between them and he wants that healed first ain't no problem with stating that

an that's why they go together....

if a relationship is broken, both people need to go.

his son just denied any responsibility for where they are and put it all on his dad.

50 is the elder. He's the father. He need to set the example. He literally the bigger man.

I don't disagree with what you said though

but even with being the bigger man an elder....how much can a man take?

I am sure he made mistakes and its not like he didnt try.

most of the time the mother comes in an fukks it up.

I have seen kids who love their fathers regardless of all the shit...but that is because the mother allows them two to develop a relationship without her input.

most fathers and sons will eventually get into a pissing contest. they need to work it out.

but when you have bitterness in your ear... it takes in a whole new dimension.

His mama ain't make 50 make public statements about that kid.

Its 50 responsibility to change that perception.
 
2stepz_ahead;9424109 said:
zzombie;9424101 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424093 said:
zzombie;9424085 said:
all parents have a responsibility to make sure their children are educated. University is expensive so in this case 50 cent should pay it even aside from the school fees sending a child to university is very expensive.

When you are family YOU don't need decades of life experience to see when your loved one has emotional and personality issues

but they act like they don't wanna fukk with him but want him to send a check.

I agree you can see when a loved one needs help....but usually it's a loved one who has some experience with real life to know that.

we are not talking a druggie or abuser or career criminal.

I would agree with you if the kid was not going to school... but in this case they really might need the money and i really don't think you need much life experience realize if your parents are slightly unbalanced

50 did cuss the him out and cut ties with him over nonsense so it's not like marquise does not have a good argument.

I am sure you seen kids who was poisoned against the other parent , so the kid acts from what they hear or what BS was feed to them.



being of age now. why the mother still need support? for the kids tuition? ok, how long this lil nigga plan on staying in school? an he can pay it directly to the school. she doesn't need to touch it.

but again, If you don't fukk with the dad, don't fukk with his money.

honestly from what I know from the pass, it seems like he was brainwashed into thinking his dad wasn't shit. alot of men would most likely take the same stance.

I just can't see a father needing to prove something to his child after dad provided and tried.

Ok so what?? if you are the father and you know that is what is going on how smart is it to feed into that by distancing yourself from the kid?? the older the kid gets the more he will realize how his mother brainwashed him and he will break out of it but if you by your actions prove the mother right by cutting your child off then the kid will never break out of it.

he's only 19 he could potentially have at lest 5 years of school to go through ASIDE from the school fees there are many other cost associated with going to school.
 
CeLLaR-DooR;9424124 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424094 said:
CeLLaR-DooR;9424053 said:
One's son should be a good judge of one's mind state.

but if said son was raised by a bitter woman can that still be true?

Why not. Nuff of us were probably raised by bitter women man especially those of us without a dad.

Anyway he knows his dad better than we do. He knows what behaviours are normal and which aren't.

but what's normal?

who defines normal?

I can meet 100 people and say they all aint normal because of my own ideas of what normal is.you can meet those same people an say they are normal.

background makes you who you are. I can't say some shit ain't normal if I never experienced the situation that made someone act the way they do.
 
mrtdb;9424122 said:
zzombie;9424089 said:
Recaptimus_Prime360;9424060 said:
Foh nigga!

You a damn adult. He didn't mind reaping the lifestyle benefits his father provided him AND his mama.

19 year olds are not really adults being too fast the push your children out the door is another reason black people economic struggle so much

Nobody can argue about whether or not having parental support at this age is good...it's always good. However $6,700 a month is more than enough to stay afloat in college. You don't need more than ~$7,000 a month...that's a salary...a DAMN good salary. Homie makin 80k a year to go to school. That's not even close to economically struggling.

Also....there's a difference between pushing your child out the door and pushing your child to realize their potential. There's nothing wrong with helping out your child (I'm a 21 year old college kid...my parents have thrown me some money on occasion)...but still, this is when you're supposed to be pushing yourself to leave the house. I'm always welcome back at my home...but in between visits I'm steady working to lay the foundation for a place my future children will call home. This is when homie needs to be pushed to finance his own dreams...get his own money...make something of his own name...just like his father did. At 19...you have a safety net to fall back on if you fail...this is the time to let him grown and try to stand on his own two feet...NOT increase the child support for a grown adult.

And that analysis is based off the situation...if it were different...if he legitimately needed money for school...I'd probably feel differently. I know people on campus who don't get enough for child support...and they have to work in addition to use child support for school. So I have no empathy for a grown man making 80k a year in child support.

look you are entitled to your own opinion but me personally i see cutting your children off arbitrarily at any age as being a horrible idea and i am 34 with children and there is no way when my son turns 19 will i be considering him a real adult sorry that shit makes no sense to me.
 
zzombie;9424133 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424109 said:
zzombie;9424101 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424093 said:
zzombie;9424085 said:
all parents have a responsibility to make sure their children are educated. University is expensive so in this case 50 cent should pay it even aside from the school fees sending a child to university is very expensive.

When you are family YOU don't need decades of life experience to see when your loved one has emotional and personality issues

but they act like they don't wanna fukk with him but want him to send a check.

I agree you can see when a loved one needs help....but usually it's a loved one who has some experience with real life to know that.

we are not talking a druggie or abuser or career criminal.

I would agree with you if the kid was not going to school... but in this case they really might need the money and i really don't think you need much life experience realize if your parents are slightly unbalanced

50 did cuss the him out and cut ties with him over nonsense so it's not like marquise does not have a good argument.

I am sure you seen kids who was poisoned against the other parent , so the kid acts from what they hear or what BS was feed to them.



being of age now. why the mother still need support? for the kids tuition? ok, how long this lil nigga plan on staying in school? an he can pay it directly to the school. she doesn't need to touch it.

but again, If you don't fukk with the dad, don't fukk with his money.

honestly from what I know from the pass, it seems like he was brainwashed into thinking his dad wasn't shit. alot of men would most likely take the same stance.

I just can't see a father needing to prove something to his child after dad provided and tried.

Ok so what?? if you are the father and you know that is what is going on how smart is it to feed into that by distancing yourself from the kid?? the older the kid gets the more he will realize how his mother brainwashed him and he will break out of it but if you by your actions prove the mother right by cutting your child off then the kid will never break out of it.

he's only 19 he could potentially have at lest 5 years of school to go through ASIDE from the school fees there are many other cost associated with going to school.

they cut each other off...parents get estranged from their kids everyday.

maybe he's distancing himself because he's tired of dealing with shit from them both.

I used to think it was stupid to do that...but the more I talk to people the more I understand sometimes you need to just walk away an let the chips fall where they may.

as for school....again, if I need therapy before you can talk to me, I need that same therapy to sign the check.
 
2stepz_ahead;9424141 said:
zzombie;9424133 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424109 said:
zzombie;9424101 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424093 said:
zzombie;9424085 said:
all parents have a responsibility to make sure their children are educated. University is expensive so in this case 50 cent should pay it even aside from the school fees sending a child to university is very expensive.

When you are family YOU don't need decades of life experience to see when your loved one has emotional and personality issues

but they act like they don't wanna fukk with him but want him to send a check.

I agree you can see when a loved one needs help....but usually it's a loved one who has some experience with real life to know that.

we are not talking a druggie or abuser or career criminal.

I would agree with you if the kid was not going to school... but in this case they really might need the money and i really don't think you need much life experience realize if your parents are slightly unbalanced

50 did cuss the him out and cut ties with him over nonsense so it's not like marquise does not have a good argument.

I am sure you seen kids who was poisoned against the other parent , so the kid acts from what they hear or what BS was feed to them.



being of age now. why the mother still need support? for the kids tuition? ok, how long this lil nigga plan on staying in school? an he can pay it directly to the school. she doesn't need to touch it.

but again, If you don't fukk with the dad, don't fukk with his money.

honestly from what I know from the pass, it seems like he was brainwashed into thinking his dad wasn't shit. alot of men would most likely take the same stance.

I just can't see a father needing to prove something to his child after dad provided and tried.

Ok so what?? if you are the father and you know that is what is going on how smart is it to feed into that by distancing yourself from the kid?? the older the kid gets the more he will realize how his mother brainwashed him and he will break out of it but if you by your actions prove the mother right by cutting your child off then the kid will never break out of it.

he's only 19 he could potentially have at lest 5 years of school to go through ASIDE from the school fees there are many other cost associated with going to school.

they cut each other off...parents get estranged from their kids everyday.

maybe he's distancing himself because he's tired of dealing with shit from them both.

I used to think it was stupid to do that...but the more I talk to people the more I understand sometimes you need to just walk away an let the chips fall where they may.

as for school....again, if I need therapy before you can talk to me, I need that same therapy to sign the check.

50 cut that nigga off before the kid turned 18 and only horrible parents get estranged from their teenage children and sorry you should never get tired of dealing with your children, you may cut his mother off but you should never just stop reaching out to your son. 50 HAS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT SHIT.

 
zzombie;9424147 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424141 said:
zzombie;9424133 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424109 said:
zzombie;9424101 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424093 said:
zzombie;9424085 said:
all parents have a responsibility to make sure their children are educated. University is expensive so in this case 50 cent should pay it even aside from the school fees sending a child to university is very expensive.

When you are family YOU don't need decades of life experience to see when your loved one has emotional and personality issues

but they act like they don't wanna fukk with him but want him to send a check.

I agree you can see when a loved one needs help....but usually it's a loved one who has some experience with real life to know that.

we are not talking a druggie or abuser or career criminal.

I would agree with you if the kid was not going to school... but in this case they really might need the money and i really don't think you need much life experience realize if your parents are slightly unbalanced

50 did cuss the him out and cut ties with him over nonsense so it's not like marquise does not have a good argument.

I am sure you seen kids who was poisoned against the other parent , so the kid acts from what they hear or what BS was feed to them.



being of age now. why the mother still need support? for the kids tuition? ok, how long this lil nigga plan on staying in school? an he can pay it directly to the school. she doesn't need to touch it.

but again, If you don't fukk with the dad, don't fukk with his money.

honestly from what I know from the pass, it seems like he was brainwashed into thinking his dad wasn't shit. alot of men would most likely take the same stance.

I just can't see a father needing to prove something to his child after dad provided and tried.

Ok so what?? if you are the father and you know that is what is going on how smart is it to feed into that by distancing yourself from the kid?? the older the kid gets the more he will realize how his mother brainwashed him and he will break out of it but if you by your actions prove the mother right by cutting your child off then the kid will never break out of it.

he's only 19 he could potentially have at lest 5 years of school to go through ASIDE from the school fees there are many other cost associated with going to school.

they cut each other off...parents get estranged from their kids everyday.

maybe he's distancing himself because he's tired of dealing with shit from them both.

I used to think it was stupid to do that...but the more I talk to people the more I understand sometimes you need to just walk away an let the chips fall where they may.

as for school....again, if I need therapy before you can talk to me, I need that same therapy to sign the check.

50 cut that nigga off before the kid turned 18 and only horrible parents get estranged from their teenage children and sorry you should never get tired of dealing with your children, you may cut his mother off but you should never just stop reaching out to your son. 50 HAS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT SHIT.

This shit ain't real talk. It's that platitude shit.

How exactly did 50 cut this dude off ?

Like I said, a father could never win by popular opinion.

Sounds more like the problems are with 50 and the mother.
 

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