Fair or foul: Marquise Jackson Says Dad 50 Cents Needs Therapy

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Noggas talking bout dude momma

50 was raised by a single mother himself. That's where he get them bitch ass ways from

Yeah...these niggas blaming the mama for 50 being a shitty father. Paying child support which is 6,700 ...when you a multimillionaire that got movies and TV shows ain't nothing.

When you see Will Smith putting his son on. When you got motherfuckers like Mitt Romney and Donald Trump who had their daddies giving them millions to start businesses (on top of paying top dollar for their education) 50 is FAILING.

His son wanting nothing to do with him is some deep shit. When you publically attacking your own kid there's something wrong there.

When Young Buck came crying to 50 on some real shit only to find 50 recorded it and released it for everyone to laugh at. I'm sorry but I bet that boy mama ain't have to "brainwash" him. 50 shows his true colors on his own.

Like I said previously this is a DMX situation. 50 probably do got issues.

you bring up the dmx thing...his kid was trying to sell a platinum record for money. and THEN saying he needs therapy an get off drugs in order to have a relationship.

now I ask...does that not sound like a deflection? if x aint shit he ain't shit. you benefitted off his work and now trying to sell his work...what does that have to do with drugs or being a shitty father?

if the child needs money...why are we not holding the custodial parent to the same level as the non custodial parent?

how can you use the phrase "benefited from his work" when talking about providing for his child as if that's not what a parent is supposed to do. You don't owe your parents for providing a life for you. It's what they're supposed to do

I'm not sure where your disconnect is coming from. but I never said a parent should not provide. a parent can choose to give the basic essentials or above basic. if my parent gave me above basic because of what they earned....I owe them a degree of respect.

if I didn't have to live in a shitty area, or bad location or worry about my next meal...

I feel I would owe a certain level of respect.

the shit you saying is what a parent should do.

how many parents actually do....is another question.

So is shitting on your teenage son on instagram and publicly disowning him something a good parent does? Does that mean that child still owes their parent respect?

did you ever think it happened after the fact of not getting it?

I'm not saying he's right ....I'm saying don't be so quick to judge. none of us are perfect

Bruh he's a teenager...there's alot of shit you don't get at 17/18. It's 50 job as his father to help him understand that not to allow his frustrations with the mother to affect how he interacts with his child.

So you acknowledge the (the son) is not getting some things - cool.

As far as the bolded though, 50 said that the son has adapted his mother's way of thinking so it's beyond just the bad relationship he has with the child's mother. He is now dealing with the son directly who acts like the mom and is 18 years old.

At what point does it become the child's responsibility to rectify shit (at least on his behalf) ? Doesn't a relationship take 2 parties ?

Perhaps 50 feels that dude is old enough to make some effort as well.

50 is the reason the disconnect exists. He chose to separate himself from his child. No child makes that decision on their own. That's something the parent/s control. It's on 50 to fix what he broke in terms of his relationship with his son. His son didn't disown him...it was the other way around. If you do somebody wrong is it on them to reach out to you to rectify it or is it your responsibility, especially as their parent, to do it?

I had a longer response but I wanted to keep it short.

So, regarding the bolded, doesn't the thread premise disagree with you ? The son says he'll only talk to him if he gets therapy.

That sounds like the son is making the decision to disconnect.

And, if you're going to say it's a result of 50's actions then why can't 50's actions be a result of the circumstances as well ?

No matter how you put it, relationships are a 2-way street and, short of mind-control, people influence but don't control other individuals. In any event, I seriously doubt it's all 50's fault.
 
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I am 100% sure most millionaires and their children have college degrees and that going right into the family business without a real education is a rare thing and only applies to certain businesses.

Now I could be wrong but I doubt it

So are you saying going to college is the only way to get a real education or college = real education?

At a certain level YES. YOU CANNOT RUN A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION UNLESS YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EDUCATION OR EXPERIENCE. They don't just pick CEO'S off the street.

College isn't the only way to be educated though.

Experience is the biggest factor not fucking piece of paper. Experience is education.

only for some areas there are things you need an education for, you cannot just wait to experience. You cannot just put your children in place and leave shit to them unless you know they know what they are doing... unless you want in incur the potential loss of them gaining that experience.

I'm not speaking in absolutes in my comments. But no matter what experience is education. A person can get all the degrees in the world on a subject but until they start actually doing the work in that field and not sitting in a classroom its certain shit about that subject they will never know unless they experience it.

experience is not always a replacement for education like i keep telling you it all depends on the business because their will be things that fall outside of your realm of experience then what are you going to do?? without education.

Did you not fucking read where I said "I'm not speaking in absolutes"?

You are speaking from an extreme minority position because i can tell you right now in the business world a young person with experience ALONE is not going to be given certain responsibilities without education it just does not happen that often if ever.

If you are talking about running a retail store or some other low level business then your point has more substance but when we are talking about more complex industries and businesses having a proper education is necessary except for very rare cases
.

So basically you understand that ain't shit absolute. Shit ain't that hard for you to say that without typing all that other bullshit.

You are such a fucking idiot...

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

My nigga fuck off already with your bullshit, you don't have anything even remotely interesting or intelligent to say

LLS at thinking you are doing any of that with your last few posts.

yeah whatever nigga.... move the fuck on already only a fucking simpleton would think "college is optional" like you do.

Show me where its mandatory for kids to go to college smart guy.

Look at the context I said optional in dummy

My nigga you are too much dense to talk to fuck off already

LLS you don't what the fuck you talking about but always on a fucking soapbox.

My nigga are you finished now??? good now shut the fuck up i know exactly what i am talking about

only like 1% of millionaires don't have some kind of university education.

No I ain't finished you lil bitch. You don't know WTF you talking about cause if you did would understand and acknowledge that I said I wasn't speaking in absolutes.

It still is a fact that college is optional. It isn't the best option not to go for most people but the shit isn't mandatory for people to go. You nor anybody else can dispute that fact.

So that means college ain't necessary for a person to become a millionaire.

If your bitchass would step out of your pride sometimes you wouldn't mind asking for clarification on what someone is saying instead of ASSuming what a complete stranger means and it would allow you to see another pov that your closed minded ass ain't seeing cause you think you always right when that ain't the fucking case.
 
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I am 100% sure most millionaires and their children have college degrees and that going right into the family business without a real education is a rare thing and only applies to certain businesses.

Now I could be wrong but I doubt it

So are you saying going to college is the only way to get a real education or college = real education?

At a certain level YES. YOU CANNOT RUN A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION UNLESS YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EDUCATION OR EXPERIENCE. They don't just pick CEO'S off the street.

College isn't the only way to be educated though.

Experience is the biggest factor not fucking piece of paper. Experience is education.

only for some areas there are things you need an education for, you cannot just wait to experience. You cannot just put your children in place and leave shit to them unless you know they know what they are doing... unless you want in incur the potential loss of them gaining that experience.

I'm not speaking in absolutes in my comments. But no matter what experience is education. A person can get all the degrees in the world on a subject but until they start actually doing the work in that field and not sitting in a classroom its certain shit about that subject they will never know unless they experience it.

experience is not always a replacement for education like i keep telling you it all depends on the business because their will be things that fall outside of your realm of experience then what are you going to do?? without education.

Did you not fucking read where I said "I'm not speaking in absolutes"?

You are speaking from an extreme minority position because i can tell you right now in the business world a young person with experience ALONE is not going to be given certain responsibilities without education it just does not happen that often if ever.

If you are talking about running a retail store or some other low level business then your point has more substance but when we are talking about more complex industries and businesses having a proper education is necessary except for very rare cases
.

So basically you understand that ain't shit absolute. Shit ain't that hard for you to say that without typing all that other bullshit.

You are such a fucking idiot...

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

My nigga fuck off already with your bullshit, you don't have anything even remotely interesting or intelligent to say

LLS at thinking you are doing any of that with your last few posts.

yeah whatever nigga.... move the fuck on already only a fucking simpleton would think "college is optional" like you do.

Show me where its mandatory for kids to go to college smart guy.

Look at the context I said optional in dummy

My nigga you are too much dense to talk to fuck off already

LLS you don't what the fuck you talking about but always on a fucking soapbox.

My nigga are you finished now??? good now shut the fuck up i know exactly what i am talking about

only like 1% of millionaires don't have some kind of university education.

No I ain't finished you lil bitch. You don't know WTF you talking about cause if you did would understand and acknowledge that I said I wasn't speaking in absolutes.

It still is a fact that college is optional. It isn't the best option not to go for most people but the shit isn't mandatory for people to go. You nor anybody else can dispute that fact.

So that means college ain't necessary for a person to become a millionaire.

If your bitchass would step out of your pride sometimes you wouldn't mind asking for clarification on what someone is saying instead of ASSuming what a complete stranger means and it would allow you to see another pov that your closed minded ass ain't seeing cause you think you always right when that ain't the fucking case.

You are fucking done
 
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Shizlansky;9424196 said:
Noggas talking bout dude momma

50 was raised by a single mother himself. That's where he get them bitch ass ways from

Yeah...these niggas blaming the mama for 50 being a shitty father. Paying child support which is 6,700 ...when you a multimillionaire that got movies and TV shows ain't nothing.

When you see Will Smith putting his son on. When you got motherfuckers like Mitt Romney and Donald Trump who had their daddies giving them millions to start businesses (on top of paying top dollar for their education) 50 is FAILING.

His son wanting nothing to do with him is some deep shit. When you publically attacking your own kid there's something wrong there.

When Young Buck came crying to 50 on some real shit only to find 50 recorded it and released it for everyone to laugh at. I'm sorry but I bet that boy mama ain't have to "brainwash" him. 50 shows his true colors on his own.

Like I said previously this is a DMX situation. 50 probably do got issues.

you bring up the dmx thing...his kid was trying to sell a platinum record for money. and THEN saying he needs therapy an get off drugs in order to have a relationship.

now I ask...does that not sound like a deflection? if x aint shit he ain't shit. you benefitted off his work and now trying to sell his work...what does that have to do with drugs or being a shitty father?

if the child needs money...why are we not holding the custodial parent to the same level as the non custodial parent?

how can you use the phrase "benefited from his work" when talking about providing for his child as if that's not what a parent is supposed to do. You don't owe your parents for providing a life for you. It's what they're supposed to do

I'm not sure where your disconnect is coming from. but I never said a parent should not provide. a parent can choose to give the basic essentials or above basic. if my parent gave me above basic because of what they earned....I owe them a degree of respect.

if I didn't have to live in a shitty area, or bad location or worry about my next meal...

I feel I would owe a certain level of respect.

the shit you saying is what a parent should do.

how many parents actually do....is another question.

So is shitting on your teenage son on instagram and publicly disowning him something a good parent does? Does that mean that child still owes their parent respect?

did you ever think it happened after the fact of not getting it?

I'm not saying he's right ....I'm saying don't be so quick to judge. none of us are perfect

Bruh he's a teenager...there's alot of shit you don't get at 17/18. It's 50 job as his father to help him understand that not to allow his frustrations with the mother to affect how he interacts with his child.

So you acknowledge the (the son) is not getting some things - cool.

As far as the bolded though, 50 said that the son has adapted his mother's way of thinking so it's beyond just the bad relationship he has with the child's mother. He is now dealing with the son directly who acts like the mom and is 18 years old.

At what point does it become the child's responsibility to rectify shit (at least on his behalf) ? Doesn't a relationship take 2 parties ?

Perhaps 50 feels that dude is old enough to make some effort as well.

50 is the reason the disconnect exists. He chose to separate himself from his child. No child makes that decision on their own. That's something the parent/s control. It's on 50 to fix what he broke in terms of his relationship with his son. His son didn't disown him...it was the other way around. If you do somebody wrong is it on them to reach out to you to rectify it or is it your responsibility, especially as their parent, to do it?

I had a longer response but I wanted to keep it short.

So, regarding the bolded, doesn't the thread premise disagree with you ? The son says he'll only talk to him if he gets therapy.

That sounds like the son is making the decision to disconnect.

And, if you're going to say it's a result of 50's actions then why can't 50's actions be a result of the circumstances as well ?

No matter how you put it, relationships are a 2-way street and, short of mind-control, people influence but don't control other individuals. In any event, I seriously doubt it's all 50's fault.

I never said its all 50 fault. I've never said the child's mother didn't exert some influence over the child in how he views his father. What I am saying is that as the father it's on 50 to show his son "Look your momma on that bullshit. Here's the real deal" instead of throwing instagram temper tantrums about his teenage son which he's done more than once in the past. If the parent and child have a bad relationship based on the father willingly throwing his hands up and saying "fuck it I'm done" then yeah that is on him to step back up and fix that
 
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I am 100% sure most millionaires and their children have college degrees and that going right into the family business without a real education is a rare thing and only applies to certain businesses.

Now I could be wrong but I doubt it

So are you saying going to college is the only way to get a real education or college = real education?

At a certain level YES. YOU CANNOT RUN A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION UNLESS YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EDUCATION OR EXPERIENCE. They don't just pick CEO'S off the street.

College isn't the only way to be educated though.

Experience is the biggest factor not fucking piece of paper. Experience is education.

only for some areas there are things you need an education for, you cannot just wait to experience. You cannot just put your children in place and leave shit to them unless you know they know what they are doing... unless you want in incur the potential loss of them gaining that experience.

I'm not speaking in absolutes in my comments. But no matter what experience is education. A person can get all the degrees in the world on a subject but until they start actually doing the work in that field and not sitting in a classroom its certain shit about that subject they will never know unless they experience it.

experience is not always a replacement for education like i keep telling you it all depends on the business because their will be things that fall outside of your realm of experience then what are you going to do?? without education.

Did you not fucking read where I said "I'm not speaking in absolutes"?

You are speaking from an extreme minority position because i can tell you right now in the business world a young person with experience ALONE is not going to be given certain responsibilities without education it just does not happen that often if ever.

If you are talking about running a retail store or some other low level business then your point has more substance but when we are talking about more complex industries and businesses having a proper education is necessary except for very rare cases
.

So basically you understand that ain't shit absolute. Shit ain't that hard for you to say that without typing all that other bullshit.

You are such a fucking idiot...

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

My nigga fuck off already with your bullshit, you don't have anything even remotely interesting or intelligent to say

LLS at thinking you are doing any of that with your last few posts.

yeah whatever nigga.... move the fuck on already only a fucking simpleton would think "college is optional" like you do.

Show me where its mandatory for kids to go to college smart guy.

Look at the context I said optional in dummy

My nigga you are too much dense to talk to fuck off already

LLS you don't what the fuck you talking about but always on a fucking soapbox.

My nigga are you finished now??? good now shut the fuck up i know exactly what i am talking about

only like 1% of millionaires don't have some kind of university education.

No I ain't finished you lil bitch. You don't know WTF you talking about cause if you did would understand and acknowledge that I said I wasn't speaking in absolutes.

It still is a fact that college is optional. It isn't the best option not to go for most people but the shit isn't mandatory for people to go. You nor anybody else can dispute that fact.

So that means college ain't necessary for a person to become a millionaire.

If your bitchass would step out of your pride sometimes you wouldn't mind asking for clarification on what someone is saying instead of ASSuming what a complete stranger means and it would allow you to see another pov that your closed minded ass ain't seeing cause you think you always right when that ain't the fucking case.

You are fucking done

NO!!!
 
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I am 100% sure most millionaires and their children have college degrees and that going right into the family business without a real education is a rare thing and only applies to certain businesses.

Now I could be wrong but I doubt it

So are you saying going to college is the only way to get a real education or college = real education?

At a certain level YES. YOU CANNOT RUN A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION UNLESS YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EDUCATION OR EXPERIENCE. They don't just pick CEO'S off the street.

College isn't the only way to be educated though.

Experience is the biggest factor not fucking piece of paper. Experience is education.

only for some areas there are things you need an education for, you cannot just wait to experience. You cannot just put your children in place and leave shit to them unless you know they know what they are doing... unless you want in incur the potential loss of them gaining that experience.

I'm not speaking in absolutes in my comments. But no matter what experience is education. A person can get all the degrees in the world on a subject but until they start actually doing the work in that field and not sitting in a classroom its certain shit about that subject they will never know unless they experience it.

experience is not always a replacement for education like i keep telling you it all depends on the business because their will be things that fall outside of your realm of experience then what are you going to do?? without education.

Did you not fucking read where I said "I'm not speaking in absolutes"?

You are speaking from an extreme minority position because i can tell you right now in the business world a young person with experience ALONE is not going to be given certain responsibilities without education it just does not happen that often if ever.

If you are talking about running a retail store or some other low level business then your point has more substance but when we are talking about more complex industries and businesses having a proper education is necessary except for very rare cases
.

So basically you understand that ain't shit absolute. Shit ain't that hard for you to say that without typing all that other bullshit.

You are such a fucking idiot...

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

My nigga fuck off already with your bullshit, you don't have anything even remotely interesting or intelligent to say

LLS at thinking you are doing any of that with your last few posts.

yeah whatever nigga.... move the fuck on already only a fucking simpleton would think "college is optional" like you do.

Show me where its mandatory for kids to go to college smart guy.

Look at the context I said optional in dummy

My nigga you are too much dense to talk to fuck off already

LLS you don't what the fuck you talking about but always on a fucking soapbox.

My nigga are you finished now??? good now shut the fuck up i know exactly what i am talking about

only like 1% of millionaires don't have some kind of university education.

No I ain't finished you lil bitch. You don't know WTF you talking about cause if you did would understand and acknowledge that I said I wasn't speaking in absolutes.

It still is a fact that college is optional. It isn't the best option not to go for most people but the shit isn't mandatory for people to go. You nor anybody else can dispute that fact.

So that means college ain't necessary for a person to become a millionaire.

If your bitchass would step out of your pride sometimes you wouldn't mind asking for clarification on what someone is saying instead of ASSuming what a complete stranger means and it would allow you to see another pov that your closed minded ass ain't seeing cause you think you always right when that ain't the fucking case.

You are fucking done

NO!!!

LOL @ this exchange.

What the fuck is goin on here ?
 
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zzombie;9424483 said:
I am 100% sure most millionaires and their children have college degrees and that going right into the family business without a real education is a rare thing and only applies to certain businesses.

Now I could be wrong but I doubt it

So are you saying going to college is the only way to get a real education or college = real education?

At a certain level YES. YOU CANNOT RUN A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION UNLESS YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EDUCATION OR EXPERIENCE. They don't just pick CEO'S off the street.

College isn't the only way to be educated though.

Experience is the biggest factor not fucking piece of paper. Experience is education.

only for some areas there are things you need an education for, you cannot just wait to experience. You cannot just put your children in place and leave shit to them unless you know they know what they are doing... unless you want in incur the potential loss of them gaining that experience.

I'm not speaking in absolutes in my comments. But no matter what experience is education. A person can get all the degrees in the world on a subject but until they start actually doing the work in that field and not sitting in a classroom its certain shit about that subject they will never know unless they experience it.

experience is not always a replacement for education like i keep telling you it all depends on the business because their will be things that fall outside of your realm of experience then what are you going to do?? without education.

Did you not fucking read where I said "I'm not speaking in absolutes"?

You are speaking from an extreme minority position because i can tell you right now in the business world a young person with experience ALONE is not going to be given certain responsibilities without education it just does not happen that often if ever.

If you are talking about running a retail store or some other low level business then your point has more substance but when we are talking about more complex industries and businesses having a proper education is necessary except for very rare cases
.

So basically you understand that ain't shit absolute. Shit ain't that hard for you to say that without typing all that other bullshit.

You are such a fucking idiot...

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

My nigga fuck off already with your bullshit, you don't have anything even remotely interesting or intelligent to say

LLS at thinking you are doing any of that with your last few posts.

yeah whatever nigga.... move the fuck on already only a fucking simpleton would think "college is optional" like you do.

Show me where its mandatory for kids to go to college smart guy.

Look at the context I said optional in dummy

My nigga you are too much dense to talk to fuck off already

LLS you don't what the fuck you talking about but always on a fucking soapbox.

My nigga are you finished now??? good now shut the fuck up i know exactly what i am talking about

only like 1% of millionaires don't have some kind of university education.

No I ain't finished you lil bitch. You don't know WTF you talking about cause if you did would understand and acknowledge that I said I wasn't speaking in absolutes.

It still is a fact that college is optional. It isn't the best option not to go for most people but the shit isn't mandatory for people to go. You nor anybody else can dispute that fact.

So that means college ain't necessary for a person to become a millionaire.

If your bitchass would step out of your pride sometimes you wouldn't mind asking for clarification on what someone is saying instead of ASSuming what a complete stranger means and it would allow you to see another pov that your closed minded ass ain't seeing cause you think you always right when that ain't the fucking case.

You are fucking done

NO!!!

LOL @ this exchange.

What the fuck is goin on here ?

EDUCATION VS EXPERIENCE
 
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zzombie;9424865 said:
D. Morgan;9424855 said:
zzombie;9424786 said:
D. Morgan;9424754 said:
zzombie;9424748 said:
D. Morgan;9424737 said:
zzombie;9424726 said:
D. Morgan;9424723 said:
zzombie;9424717 said:
D. Morgan;9424708 said:
zzombie;9424703 said:
D. Morgan;9424642 said:
zzombie;9424624 said:
D. Morgan;9424609 said:
zzombie;9424602 said:
D. Morgan;9424587 said:
zzombie;9424567 said:
D. Morgan;9424491 said:
zzombie;9424483 said:
I am 100% sure most millionaires and their children have college degrees and that going right into the family business without a real education is a rare thing and only applies to certain businesses.

Now I could be wrong but I doubt it

So are you saying going to college is the only way to get a real education or college = real education?

At a certain level YES. YOU CANNOT RUN A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION UNLESS YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EDUCATION OR EXPERIENCE. They don't just pick CEO'S off the street.

College isn't the only way to be educated though.

Experience is the biggest factor not fucking piece of paper. Experience is education.

only for some areas there are things you need an education for, you cannot just wait to experience. You cannot just put your children in place and leave shit to them unless you know they know what they are doing... unless you want in incur the potential loss of them gaining that experience.

I'm not speaking in absolutes in my comments. But no matter what experience is education. A person can get all the degrees in the world on a subject but until they start actually doing the work in that field and not sitting in a classroom its certain shit about that subject they will never know unless they experience it.

experience is not always a replacement for education like i keep telling you it all depends on the business because their will be things that fall outside of your realm of experience then what are you going to do?? without education.

Did you not fucking read where I said "I'm not speaking in absolutes"?

You are speaking from an extreme minority position because i can tell you right now in the business world a young person with experience ALONE is not going to be given certain responsibilities without education it just does not happen that often if ever.

If you are talking about running a retail store or some other low level business then your point has more substance but when we are talking about more complex industries and businesses having a proper education is necessary except for very rare cases
.

So basically you understand that ain't shit absolute. Shit ain't that hard for you to say that without typing all that other bullshit.

You are such a fucking idiot...

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

My nigga fuck off already with your bullshit, you don't have anything even remotely interesting or intelligent to say

LLS at thinking you are doing any of that with your last few posts.

yeah whatever nigga.... move the fuck on already only a fucking simpleton would think "college is optional" like you do.

Show me where its mandatory for kids to go to college smart guy.

Look at the context I said optional in dummy

My nigga you are too much dense to talk to fuck off already

LLS you don't what the fuck you talking about but always on a fucking soapbox.

My nigga are you finished now??? good now shut the fuck up i know exactly what i am talking about

only like 1% of millionaires don't have some kind of university education.

No I ain't finished you lil bitch. You don't know WTF you talking about cause if you did would understand and acknowledge that I said I wasn't speaking in absolutes.

It still is a fact that college is optional. It isn't the best option not to go for most people but the shit isn't mandatory for people to go. You nor anybody else can dispute that fact.

So that means college ain't necessary for a person to become a millionaire.

If your bitchass would step out of your pride sometimes you wouldn't mind asking for clarification on what someone is saying instead of ASSuming what a complete stranger means and it would allow you to see another pov that your closed minded ass ain't seeing cause you think you always right when that ain't the fucking case.

You are fucking done

NO!!!

 
7figz;9424942 said:
D. Morgan;9424925 said:
zzombie;9424912 said:
D. Morgan;9424907 said:
zzombie;9424884 said:
D. Morgan;9424869 said:
zzombie;9424865 said:
D. Morgan;9424855 said:
zzombie;9424786 said:
D. Morgan;9424754 said:
zzombie;9424748 said:
D. Morgan;9424737 said:
zzombie;9424726 said:
D. Morgan;9424723 said:
zzombie;9424717 said:
D. Morgan;9424708 said:
zzombie;9424703 said:
D. Morgan;9424642 said:
zzombie;9424624 said:
D. Morgan;9424609 said:
zzombie;9424602 said:
D. Morgan;9424587 said:
zzombie;9424567 said:
D. Morgan;9424491 said:
zzombie;9424483 said:
I am 100% sure most millionaires and their children have college degrees and that going right into the family business without a real education is a rare thing and only applies to certain businesses.

Now I could be wrong but I doubt it

So are you saying going to college is the only way to get a real education or college = real education?

At a certain level YES. YOU CANNOT RUN A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION UNLESS YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EDUCATION OR EXPERIENCE. They don't just pick CEO'S off the street.

College isn't the only way to be educated though.

Experience is the biggest factor not fucking piece of paper. Experience is education.

only for some areas there are things you need an education for, you cannot just wait to experience. You cannot just put your children in place and leave shit to them unless you know they know what they are doing... unless you want in incur the potential loss of them gaining that experience.

I'm not speaking in absolutes in my comments. But no matter what experience is education. A person can get all the degrees in the world on a subject but until they start actually doing the work in that field and not sitting in a classroom its certain shit about that subject they will never know unless they experience it.

experience is not always a replacement for education like i keep telling you it all depends on the business because their will be things that fall outside of your realm of experience then what are you going to do?? without education.

Did you not fucking read where I said "I'm not speaking in absolutes"?

You are speaking from an extreme minority position because i can tell you right now in the business world a young person with experience ALONE is not going to be given certain responsibilities without education it just does not happen that often if ever.

If you are talking about running a retail store or some other low level business then your point has more substance but when we are talking about more complex industries and businesses having a proper education is necessary except for very rare cases
.

So basically you understand that ain't shit absolute. Shit ain't that hard for you to say that without typing all that other bullshit.

You are such a fucking idiot...

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

My nigga fuck off already with your bullshit, you don't have anything even remotely interesting or intelligent to say

LLS at thinking you are doing any of that with your last few posts.

yeah whatever nigga.... move the fuck on already only a fucking simpleton would think "college is optional" like you do.

Show me where its mandatory for kids to go to college smart guy.

Look at the context I said optional in dummy

My nigga you are too much dense to talk to fuck off already

LLS you don't what the fuck you talking about but always on a fucking soapbox.

My nigga are you finished now??? good now shut the fuck up i know exactly what i am talking about

only like 1% of millionaires don't have some kind of university education.

No I ain't finished you lil bitch. You don't know WTF you talking about cause if you did would understand and acknowledge that I said I wasn't speaking in absolutes.

It still is a fact that college is optional. It isn't the best option not to go for most people but the shit isn't mandatory for people to go. You nor anybody else can dispute that fact.

So that means college ain't necessary for a person to become a millionaire.

If your bitchass would step out of your pride sometimes you wouldn't mind asking for clarification on what someone is saying instead of ASSuming what a complete stranger means and it would allow you to see another pov that your closed minded ass ain't seeing cause you think you always right when that ain't the fucking case.

You are fucking done

NO!!!

LOL @ this exchange.

What the fuck is goin on here ?

This nigga mad as usual cause I don't 100% agree with what he is saying because he swears he knows it all and is always right.

So he closes his mind off to anything else being said no matter what is said.
 
D. Morgan;9424967 said:
7figz;9424942 said:
D. Morgan;9424925 said:
zzombie;9424912 said:
D. Morgan;9424907 said:
zzombie;9424884 said:
D. Morgan;9424869 said:
zzombie;9424865 said:
D. Morgan;9424855 said:
zzombie;9424786 said:
D. Morgan;9424754 said:
zzombie;9424748 said:
D. Morgan;9424737 said:
zzombie;9424726 said:
D. Morgan;9424723 said:
zzombie;9424717 said:
D. Morgan;9424708 said:
zzombie;9424703 said:
D. Morgan;9424642 said:
zzombie;9424624 said:
D. Morgan;9424609 said:
zzombie;9424602 said:
D. Morgan;9424587 said:
zzombie;9424567 said:
D. Morgan;9424491 said:
zzombie;9424483 said:
I am 100% sure most millionaires and their children have college degrees and that going right into the family business without a real education is a rare thing and only applies to certain businesses.

Now I could be wrong but I doubt it

So are you saying going to college is the only way to get a real education or college = real education?

At a certain level YES. YOU CANNOT RUN A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION UNLESS YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EDUCATION OR EXPERIENCE. They don't just pick CEO'S off the street.

College isn't the only way to be educated though.

Experience is the biggest factor not fucking piece of paper. Experience is education.

only for some areas there are things you need an education for, you cannot just wait to experience. You cannot just put your children in place and leave shit to them unless you know they know what they are doing... unless you want in incur the potential loss of them gaining that experience.

I'm not speaking in absolutes in my comments. But no matter what experience is education. A person can get all the degrees in the world on a subject but until they start actually doing the work in that field and not sitting in a classroom its certain shit about that subject they will never know unless they experience it.

experience is not always a replacement for education like i keep telling you it all depends on the business because their will be things that fall outside of your realm of experience then what are you going to do?? without education.

Did you not fucking read where I said "I'm not speaking in absolutes"?

You are speaking from an extreme minority position because i can tell you right now in the business world a young person with experience ALONE is not going to be given certain responsibilities without education it just does not happen that often if ever.

If you are talking about running a retail store or some other low level business then your point has more substance but when we are talking about more complex industries and businesses having a proper education is necessary except for very rare cases
.

So basically you understand that ain't shit absolute. Shit ain't that hard for you to say that without typing all that other bullshit.

You are such a fucking idiot...

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

Your mother and father fucking idiots for birthing you

My nigga fuck off already with your bullshit, you don't have anything even remotely interesting or intelligent to say

LLS at thinking you are doing any of that with your last few posts.

yeah whatever nigga.... move the fuck on already only a fucking simpleton would think "college is optional" like you do.

Show me where its mandatory for kids to go to college smart guy.

Look at the context I said optional in dummy

My nigga you are too much dense to talk to fuck off already

LLS you don't what the fuck you talking about but always on a fucking soapbox.

My nigga are you finished now??? good now shut the fuck up i know exactly what i am talking about

only like 1% of millionaires don't have some kind of university education.

No I ain't finished you lil bitch. You don't know WTF you talking about cause if you did would understand and acknowledge that I said I wasn't speaking in absolutes.

It still is a fact that college is optional. It isn't the best option not to go for most people but the shit isn't mandatory for people to go. You nor anybody else can dispute that fact.

So that means college ain't necessary for a person to become a millionaire.

If your bitchass would step out of your pride sometimes you wouldn't mind asking for clarification on what someone is saying instead of ASSuming what a complete stranger means and it would allow you to see another pov that your closed minded ass ain't seeing cause you think you always right when that ain't the fucking case.

You are fucking done

NO!!!

LOL @ this exchange.

What the fuck is goin on here ?

This nigga mad as usual cause I don't 100% agree with what he is saying because he swears he knows it all and is always right.

So he closes his mind off to anything else being said no matter what is said
.

 
blackrain;9424918 said:
7figz;9424901 said:
blackrain;9424814 said:
7figz;9424739 said:
blackrain;9424698 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424667 said:
blackrain;9424571 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424548 said:
blackrain;9424498 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424312 said:
jono;9424216 said:
Shizlansky;9424196 said:
Noggas talking bout dude momma

50 was raised by a single mother himself. That's where he get them bitch ass ways from

Yeah...these niggas blaming the mama for 50 being a shitty father. Paying child support which is 6,700 ...when you a multimillionaire that got movies and TV shows ain't nothing.

When you see Will Smith putting his son on. When you got motherfuckers like Mitt Romney and Donald Trump who had their daddies giving them millions to start businesses (on top of paying top dollar for their education) 50 is FAILING.

His son wanting nothing to do with him is some deep shit. When you publically attacking your own kid there's something wrong there.

When Young Buck came crying to 50 on some real shit only to find 50 recorded it and released it for everyone to laugh at. I'm sorry but I bet that boy mama ain't have to "brainwash" him. 50 shows his true colors on his own.

Like I said previously this is a DMX situation. 50 probably do got issues.

you bring up the dmx thing...his kid was trying to sell a platinum record for money. and THEN saying he needs therapy an get off drugs in order to have a relationship.

now I ask...does that not sound like a deflection? if x aint shit he ain't shit. you benefitted off his work and now trying to sell his work...what does that have to do with drugs or being a shitty father?

if the child needs money...why are we not holding the custodial parent to the same level as the non custodial parent?

how can you use the phrase "benefited from his work" when talking about providing for his child as if that's not what a parent is supposed to do. You don't owe your parents for providing a life for you. It's what they're supposed to do

I'm not sure where your disconnect is coming from. but I never said a parent should not provide. a parent can choose to give the basic essentials or above basic. if my parent gave me above basic because of what they earned....I owe them a degree of respect.

if I didn't have to live in a shitty area, or bad location or worry about my next meal...

I feel I would owe a certain level of respect.

the shit you saying is what a parent should do.

how many parents actually do....is another question.

So is shitting on your teenage son on instagram and publicly disowning him something a good parent does? Does that mean that child still owes their parent respect?

did you ever think it happened after the fact of not getting it?

I'm not saying he's right ....I'm saying don't be so quick to judge. none of us are perfect

Bruh he's a teenager...there's alot of shit you don't get at 17/18. It's 50 job as his father to help him understand that not to allow his frustrations with the mother to affect how he interacts with his child.

So you acknowledge the (the son) is not getting some things - cool.

As far as the bolded though, 50 said that the son has adapted his mother's way of thinking so it's beyond just the bad relationship he has with the child's mother. He is now dealing with the son directly who acts like the mom and is 18 years old.

At what point does it become the child's responsibility to rectify shit (at least on his behalf) ? Doesn't a relationship take 2 parties ?

Perhaps 50 feels that dude is old enough to make some effort as well.

50 is the reason the disconnect exists. He chose to separate himself from his child. No child makes that decision on their own. That's something the parent/s control. It's on 50 to fix what he broke in terms of his relationship with his son. His son didn't disown him...it was the other way around. If you do somebody wrong is it on them to reach out to you to rectify it or is it your responsibility, especially as their parent, to do it?

I had a longer response but I wanted to keep it short.

So, regarding the bolded, doesn't the thread premise disagree with you ? The son says he'll only talk to him if he gets therapy.

That sounds like the son is making the decision to disconnect.

And, if you're going to say it's a result of 50's actions then why can't 50's actions be a result of the circumstances as well ?

No matter how you put it, relationships are a 2-way street and, short of mind-control, people influence but don't control other individuals. In any event, I seriously doubt it's all 50's fault.

I never said its all 50 fault. I've never said the child's mother didn't exert some influence over the child in how he views his father. What I am saying is that as the father it's on 50 to show his son "Look your momma on that bullshit. Here's the real deal" instead of throwing instagram temper tantrums about his teenage son which he's done more than once in the past. If the parent and child have a bad relationship based on the father willingly throwing his hands up and saying "fuck it I'm done" then yeah that is on him to step back up and fix that

It's a possibility he has already made that point to his son and is out of patience. Calling it a temper-tantrum belittles that.

And assuming that he "willingly threw his hands up", without considering all the other factors, is pretty-biased.

But it's all up to 50 to fix shit ?


 
D. Morgan;9424587 said:
zzombie;9424567 said:
D. Morgan;9424491 said:
zzombie;9424483 said:
I am 100% sure most millionaires and their children have college degrees and that going right into the family business without a real education is a rare thing and only applies to certain businesses.

Now I could be wrong but I doubt it

So are you saying going to college is the only way to get a real education or college = real education?

At a certain level YES. YOU CANNOT RUN A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION UNLESS YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EDUCATION OR EXPERIENCE. They don't just pick CEO'S off the street.

College isn't the only way to be educated though.

Experience is the biggest factor not fucking piece of paper. Experience is education.

my mentor told me that...nothing beats experience
 
7figz;9424630 said:
zzombie;9424612 said:
7figz;9424601 said:
zzombie;9424580 said:
7figz;9424535 said:
zzombie;9424431 said:
The only time your children are not entitled to the best you can give them is when they are in rebellion...

So at this point, a parent is not entitled to choose what they decide to provide their children ?

It's automatically "the best" they can providde ? Amazing how we crossed this line into dictating how a parent should parent.

Of course, ideally, someone should want what is best for their children. But who should be deciding what is "best" for someone besides their own parents ?

For example, I decide that giving my kid an allowance of $50 a week is best (for reasons that are none of anyone's fuckin' business but for the sake of discussion - teaches him money management skills) then someone else says that since I make $1,000,000 a year, I should be giving him $2000 a week - "because that is best".

ONLY IF YOU LIVE WITH THE KID/HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM otherwise objectively speaking you "best" can be looked at as not being good enough especially if you have millions of dollars like 50 has.

like what positions are you in to say your child does not have money management skills if you haven't lived with him?? or no longer have a close personal relationship with him??

This seems like a totally arbitrary stance to take. The implication here is that a parent supposedly doesn't know their child and what's best for them because they don't live with them ?

That is fuckin' ridiculous.

My son doesn't live with me and I know several things about him - (confirmed by people other than myself, including him).

Furthermore, children live with parents who don't know shit about them. Witnessed by countless media and news stories.

So those points aside, how is someone else in a better position than the parents to decide what's best for their child ? Especially when we're talking exorbitant amounts like 6700 a month. This young man doesn't know shit about life if he can't survive on that, let alone to dictate some shit to the person supporting him.

THAT'S NOT QUITE MY STATEMENT. I said " ONLY IF YOU LIVE WITH THE KID/HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM"

50 has no real relationship with marquis and all that money is not for the kid to just but random shit with it's for his schooling.

Ok, I'll consider the relationship part -

I assume he is still in a better position to decide what is best, or has the authority by way of it being his kid and his money, to decide how he wants to support his kid.

And it's called child support for a reason, ALL of it is for the kid - whether you want to make the claim that some of it goes to the household and other shit, it still is only because of and on behalf of, the child (an arguable grown one in this case).

6700 is more than most entire families probably survive off.

But those facts are really only supplemental. What matters is that's his son and his money, and he should be able to decide what he chooses to spend supporting him.

Short letting him starve or live on the streets, why is anyone even concerned ? This shit is a spoiled mentality - he has more so I want more. I wish I would've tried that shit with my parents.

true shit...

I could never even had thought to say to my dad he needs therapy.. he was not perfect.

but life happens.. everyone doesn't handle shit the same.

but if your parent us trying to do right....where does someone get off on telling them to do better.

compared to what?
 
EmM HoLLa.;9424635 said:
I'm pretty sure.. Once that clock strikes 0 on the child support payments.. If his son and baby mom fall flat on their face.. 50 will end up holding them down.. Given 50's history he wants his baby mom and son to realize how good they have it and to appreciate him.. Once they do he will continue to support them when necessary..

exactly...outside of the lil shit we see...he has held them down.

more than some people with more would do.

but to have someone tell me some off the wall shit an nobody doing nothing?

nah
 
BoyPussy;9424660 said:
Lmfao I can tell some of y'all got horrible baby mommas *sip tea*

i will stand in the front of the line on this one.

i made fukked up choices when I was a buck.

but i stand by those choices an did up until my child's last breath.

i owed it to them. as fukked up shit got ...I took my lumps.
 
2stepz_ahead;9425008 said:
D. Morgan;9424587 said:
zzombie;9424567 said:
D. Morgan;9424491 said:
zzombie;9424483 said:
I am 100% sure most millionaires and their children have college degrees and that going right into the family business without a real education is a rare thing and only applies to certain businesses.

Now I could be wrong but I doubt it

So are you saying going to college is the only way to get a real education or college = real education?

At a certain level YES. YOU CANNOT RUN A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION UNLESS YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EDUCATION OR EXPERIENCE. They don't just pick CEO'S off the street.

College isn't the only way to be educated though.

Experience is the biggest factor not fucking piece of paper. Experience is education.

my mentor told me that...nothing beats experience

I feel the exact same way. Some things in life you just have to experience to understand it and know how to deal with. Certain things just can't be told to a person in order to get a full understanding of it.
 
7figz;9424992 said:
blackrain;9424918 said:
7figz;9424901 said:
blackrain;9424814 said:
7figz;9424739 said:
blackrain;9424698 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424667 said:
blackrain;9424571 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424548 said:
blackrain;9424498 said:
2stepz_ahead;9424312 said:
jono;9424216 said:
Shizlansky;9424196 said:
Noggas talking bout dude momma

50 was raised by a single mother himself. That's where he get them bitch ass ways from

Yeah...these niggas blaming the mama for 50 being a shitty father. Paying child support which is 6,700 ...when you a multimillionaire that got movies and TV shows ain't nothing.

When you see Will Smith putting his son on. When you got motherfuckers like Mitt Romney and Donald Trump who had their daddies giving them millions to start businesses (on top of paying top dollar for their education) 50 is FAILING.

His son wanting nothing to do with him is some deep shit. When you publically attacking your own kid there's something wrong there.

When Young Buck came crying to 50 on some real shit only to find 50 recorded it and released it for everyone to laugh at. I'm sorry but I bet that boy mama ain't have to "brainwash" him. 50 shows his true colors on his own.

Like I said previously this is a DMX situation. 50 probably do got issues.

you bring up the dmx thing...his kid was trying to sell a platinum record for money. and THEN saying he needs therapy an get off drugs in order to have a relationship.

now I ask...does that not sound like a deflection? if x aint shit he ain't shit. you benefitted off his work and now trying to sell his work...what does that have to do with drugs or being a shitty father?

if the child needs money...why are we not holding the custodial parent to the same level as the non custodial parent?

how can you use the phrase "benefited from his work" when talking about providing for his child as if that's not what a parent is supposed to do. You don't owe your parents for providing a life for you. It's what they're supposed to do

I'm not sure where your disconnect is coming from. but I never said a parent should not provide. a parent can choose to give the basic essentials or above basic. if my parent gave me above basic because of what they earned....I owe them a degree of respect.

if I didn't have to live in a shitty area, or bad location or worry about my next meal...

I feel I would owe a certain level of respect.

the shit you saying is what a parent should do.

how many parents actually do....is another question.

So is shitting on your teenage son on instagram and publicly disowning him something a good parent does? Does that mean that child still owes their parent respect?

did you ever think it happened after the fact of not getting it?

I'm not saying he's right ....I'm saying don't be so quick to judge. none of us are perfect

Bruh he's a teenager...there's alot of shit you don't get at 17/18. It's 50 job as his father to help him understand that not to allow his frustrations with the mother to affect how he interacts with his child.

So you acknowledge the (the son) is not getting some things - cool.

As far as the bolded though, 50 said that the son has adapted his mother's way of thinking so it's beyond just the bad relationship he has with the child's mother. He is now dealing with the son directly who acts like the mom and is 18 years old.

At what point does it become the child's responsibility to rectify shit (at least on his behalf) ? Doesn't a relationship take 2 parties ?

Perhaps 50 feels that dude is old enough to make some effort as well.

50 is the reason the disconnect exists. He chose to separate himself from his child. No child makes that decision on their own. That's something the parent/s control. It's on 50 to fix what he broke in terms of his relationship with his son. His son didn't disown him...it was the other way around. If you do somebody wrong is it on them to reach out to you to rectify it or is it your responsibility, especially as their parent, to do it?

I had a longer response but I wanted to keep it short.

So, regarding the bolded, doesn't the thread premise disagree with you ? The son says he'll only talk to him if he gets therapy.

That sounds like the son is making the decision to disconnect.

And, if you're going to say it's a result of 50's actions then why can't 50's actions be a result of the circumstances as well ?

No matter how you put it, relationships are a 2-way street and, short of mind-control, people influence but don't control other individuals. In any event, I seriously doubt it's all 50's fault.

I never said its all 50 fault. I've never said the child's mother didn't exert some influence over the child in how he views his father. What I am saying is that as the father it's on 50 to show his son "Look your momma on that bullshit. Here's the real deal" instead of throwing instagram temper tantrums about his teenage son which he's done more than once in the past. If the parent and child have a bad relationship based on the father willingly throwing his hands up and saying "fuck it I'm done" then yeah that is on him to step back up and fix that

It's a possibility he has already made that point to his son and is out of patience. Calling it a temper-tantrum belittles that.

And assuming that he "willingly threw his hands up", without considering all the other factors, is pretty-biased.

But it's all up to 50 to fix shit ?

When a parent takes to instagram to talk about their child in the way 50 did that's a temper tantrum...and yes he willingly through his hands up. Ain't nobody make him say he wasn't fucking with his child anymore. That was a decision he chose to make...I mean seriously what would've been a good reason to disown his son? To willingly remove yourself from your child's life is serious
 
2stepz_ahead;9425015 said:
7figz;9424630 said:
zzombie;9424612 said:
7figz;9424601 said:
zzombie;9424580 said:
7figz;9424535 said:
zzombie;9424431 said:
The only time your children are not entitled to the best you can give them is when they are in rebellion...

So at this point, a parent is not entitled to choose what they decide to provide their children ?

It's automatically "the best" they can providde ? Amazing how we crossed this line into dictating how a parent should parent.

Of course, ideally, someone should want what is best for their children. But who should be deciding what is "best" for someone besides their own parents ?

For example, I decide that giving my kid an allowance of $50 a week is best (for reasons that are none of anyone's fuckin' business but for the sake of discussion - teaches him money management skills) then someone else says that since I make $1,000,000 a year, I should be giving him $2000 a week - "because that is best".

ONLY IF YOU LIVE WITH THE KID/HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM otherwise objectively speaking you "best" can be looked at as not being good enough especially if you have millions of dollars like 50 has.

like what positions are you in to say your child does not have money management skills if you haven't lived with him?? or no longer have a close personal relationship with him??

This seems like a totally arbitrary stance to take. The implication here is that a parent supposedly doesn't know their child and what's best for them because they don't live with them ?

That is fuckin' ridiculous.

My son doesn't live with me and I know several things about him - (confirmed by people other than myself, including him).

Furthermore, children live with parents who don't know shit about them. Witnessed by countless media and news stories.

So those points aside, how is someone else in a better position than the parents to decide what's best for their child ? Especially when we're talking exorbitant amounts like 6700 a month. This young man doesn't know shit about life if he can't survive on that, let alone to dictate some shit to the person supporting him.

THAT'S NOT QUITE MY STATEMENT. I said " ONLY IF YOU LIVE WITH THE KID/HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM"

50 has no real relationship with marquis and all that money is not for the kid to just but random shit with it's for his schooling.

Ok, I'll consider the relationship part -

I assume he is still in a better position to decide what is best, or has the authority by way of it being his kid and his money, to decide how he wants to support his kid.

And it's called child support for a reason, ALL of it is for the kid - whether you want to make the claim that some of it goes to the household and other shit, it still is only because of and on behalf of, the child (an arguable grown one in this case).

6700 is more than most entire families probably survive off.

But those facts are really only supplemental. What matters is that's his son and his money, and he should be able to decide what he chooses to spend supporting him.

Short letting him starve or live on the streets, why is anyone even concerned ? This shit is a spoiled mentality - he has more so I want more. I wish I would've tried that shit with my parents.

true shit...

I could never even had thought to say to my dad he needs therapy.. he was not perfect.

but life happens.. everyone doesn't handle shit the same.

but if your parent us trying to do right....where does someone get off on telling them to do better.

compared to what?

Sometimes your parent is trying to do right and still needs some help getting there....like I said earlier if somebody got a drug or alcohol addiction by your logic telling them they need help is foul if it's coming from their kid
 
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Smh at yall grown ppl giving credit to a privileged 19 year old. How can think those are His geniune feelings? The boy is clearly his mother's ventriloquist dummy. Her vindictiveness is the reason why her son and his father are estranged.

thing is this is why i look at the mom..

is she helping or hurting this..

as much as I hate my BM...my child will not disrespect her in or out of my presence.

some shit just needs to be overlooked
 
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Noggas talking bout dude momma

50 was raised by a single mother himself. That's where he get them bitch ass ways from

Yeah...these niggas blaming the mama for 50 being a shitty father. Paying child support which is 6,700 ...when you a multimillionaire that got movies and TV shows ain't nothing.

When you see Will Smith putting his son on. When you got motherfuckers like Mitt Romney and Donald Trump who had their daddies giving them millions to start businesses (on top of paying top dollar for their education) 50 is FAILING.

His son wanting nothing to do with him is some deep shit. When you publically attacking your own kid there's something wrong there.

When Young Buck came crying to 50 on some real shit only to find 50 recorded it and released it for everyone to laugh at. I'm sorry but I bet that boy mama ain't have to "brainwash" him. 50 shows his true colors on his own.

Like I said previously this is a DMX situation. 50 probably do got issues.

you bring up the dmx thing...his kid was trying to sell a platinum record for money. and THEN saying he needs therapy an get off drugs in order to have a relationship.

now I ask...does that not sound like a deflection? if x aint shit he ain't shit. you benefitted off his work and now trying to sell his work...what does that have to do with drugs or being a shitty father?

if the child needs money...why are we not holding the custodial parent to the same level as the non custodial parent?

how can you use the phrase "benefited from his work" when talking about providing for his child as if that's not what a parent is supposed to do. You don't owe your parents for providing a life for you. It's what they're supposed to do

I'm not sure where your disconnect is coming from. but I never said a parent should not provide. a parent can choose to give the basic essentials or above basic. if my parent gave me above basic because of what they earned....I owe them a degree of respect.

if I didn't have to live in a shitty area, or bad location or worry about my next meal...

I feel I would owe a certain level of respect.

the shit you saying is what a parent should do.

how many parents actually do....is another question.

So is shitting on your teenage son on instagram and publicly disowning him something a good parent does? Does that mean that child still owes their parent respect?

did you ever think it happened after the fact of not getting it?

I'm not saying he's right ....I'm saying don't be so quick to judge. none of us are perfect

Bruh he's a teenager...there's alot of shit you don't get at 17/18. It's 50 job as his father to help him understand that not to allow his frustrations with the mother to affect how he interacts with his child.

So you acknowledge the (the son) is not getting some things - cool.

As far as the bolded though, 50 said that the son has adapted his mother's way of thinking so it's beyond just the bad relationship he has with the child's mother. He is now dealing with the son directly who acts like the mom and is 18 years old.

At what point does it become the child's responsibility to rectify shit (at least on his behalf) ? Doesn't a relationship take 2 parties ?

Perhaps 50 feels that dude is old enough to make some effort as well.

50 is the reason the disconnect exists. He chose to separate himself from his child. No child makes that decision on their own. That's something the parent/s control. It's on 50 to fix what he broke in terms of his relationship with his son. His son didn't disown him...it was the other way around. If you do somebody wrong is it on them to reach out to you to rectify it or is it your responsibility, especially as their parent, to do it?

I had a longer response but I wanted to keep it short.

So, regarding the bolded, doesn't the thread premise disagree with you ? The son says he'll only talk to him if he gets therapy.

That sounds like the son is making the decision to disconnect.

And, if you're going to say it's a result of 50's actions then why can't 50's actions be a result of the circumstances as well ?

No matter how you put it, relationships are a 2-way street and, short of mind-control, people influence but don't control other individuals. In any event, I seriously doubt it's all 50's fault.

I never said its all 50 fault. I've never said the child's mother didn't exert some influence over the child in how he views his father. What I am saying is that as the father it's on 50 to show his son "Look your momma on that bullshit. Here's the real deal" instead of throwing instagram temper tantrums about his teenage son which he's done more than once in the past. If the parent and child have a bad relationship based on the father willingly throwing his hands up and saying "fuck it I'm done" then yeah that is on him to step back up and fix that

It's a possibility he has already made that point to his son and is out of patience. Calling it a temper-tantrum belittles that.

And assuming that he "willingly threw his hands up", without considering all the other factors, is pretty-biased.

But it's all up to 50 to fix shit ?

When a parent takes to instagram to talk about their child in the way 50 did that's a temper tantrum...and yes he willingly through his hands up. Ain't nobody make him say he wasn't fucking with his child anymore. That was a decision he chose to make...I mean seriously what would've been a good reason to disown his son? To willingly remove yourself from your child's life is serious

In 50's instance most people can't fathom a reason for going on his son the way he did let alone find a good reason for him to disown his son.

We also don't know everything that went on between him and his son. So 50 could've told his son on multiple occasions "son your mother on some bullshit and this my side to the story".

If after doing all that and the son just always sides with the mother then 50 just said well "fuck you then lil nigga".

I 100% DISAGREE with doing that but thats how that man felt about some shit that we don't know all the details about.

I've seen a lot of shit between parent and child. Got friends who've totally removed a parent from their lives. Even seen a son tell his father "I don't fuck with you, don't call, write. I want no contact with you and if you do any of that after what I said. I feel like you disrespecting my words to you as a man that is going to be a problem."

The son had his reasons and the father fell back and respected his son word as a man.
 

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