excuse me, but COLORADO JUST LEGALIZED WEED COLORADO JUST LEGALIZED WEED COLORADO JUST LEGALIZED WEE

[Ajackson17]

Will not be going to Colorado nor Washington state. Freely allowing drug users is affecting our moral and ability to make rational and logical decisions. Sorry, but if those become a black oasis, than we are DONE.

Like having marijuana illegal and jailing our folk for small possessions of it is doing us any favors. The illegality for marijuana use was racist from its inception and only benefited pharmaceutical, paper mill, and plastics companies while keeping the cops busy harassing us for a damn plant. This cannabis legalization is great news as it will create a multitude of jobs and save money, much more than your shit candidate mitt "i don't have a plan" romney lol marijuana is more appealing in the polls than mitt romney for a reason, it can do more aid than any politician. Check the image and learn you something.

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Feelings, it's time to hop out of them lol

 

[UnderMiSensi]

Will not be going to Colorado nor Washington state. Freely allowing drug users is affecting our moral and ability to make rational and logical decisions. Sorry, but if those become a black oasis, than we are DONE.

Like having marijuana illegal and jailing our folk for small possessions of it is doing us any favors. The illegality for marijuana use was racist from its inception and only benefited pharmaceutical, paper mill, and plastics companies while keeping the cops busy harassing us for a damn plant. This cannabis legalization is great news as it will create a multitude of jobs and save money, much more than your shit candidate mitt "i don't have a plan" romney lol marijuana is more appealing in the polls than mitt romney for a reason, it can do more aid than any politician. Check the image and learn you something.

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Feelings, it's time to hop out of them lol

In the first post you said if those states become a black oasis we're done in an irrational sense of fear. Fear = feelings. I then replied with facts to your irrational feelings of fear and you then you say I caught feelings haha lol. You should work for fox news with your projection and lack of rebuttals. If you don't like weed that's fine, but the world won't end if it becomes legalized and immeasurable benefits can be had.

 

[aladdin1978]

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[Swiffness!]

lmao kingblaze sheeeit cuz, gary johnson? seriously? There something wrong with Jill Stein? She didn't seem to be high on dust like Cynthia McKinney was. That Rocky guy from the "Justice Party" woulda gave you ur no-wars-and-legal-weed too. What do you think Gary Johnson's economic policy would look like? You ever stop to think about that? Libertarians are great on war and civil rights/liberties and WEED. But "Economic Libertarianism" is that Ayn Rand "laissez faire" bullshit where you gut regulations for Banks because it "hinders the market". I read Reason Magazine. These muhfuckas thought Citizens United was the best Supreme Court decision ever. That's when I knew I was done with "Libertarians".

(man if ktulu was still here he woulda been schooled you on this while quotin Marx n shit lol, i can't stand economic theory personally)

 

[janklow]

lmao kingblaze sheeeit cuz, gary johnson? seriously? There something wrong with Jill Stein?

yes, she's a fucking anti-gun fascist, so fuck Jill Stein. i'd rather vote for Obama.

What do you think Gary Johnson's economic policy would look like? You ever stop to think about that?

wait, what the hell would Jill Stein's economic policy look like?

Libertarians are great on .... civil rights

well, if it's a civil rights question and Romney and Obama (and fuck it, Stein) all suck on my civil rights issue...

anyway, look, say you vote for Johnson and SOMEHOW JOHNSON WINS. it's still going to be Johnson versus a Congress who won't let him do anything CRAZY.

 

[kingblaze84]

lmao kingblaze sheeeit cuz, gary johnson? seriously? There something wrong with Jill Stein?

yes, she's a fucking anti-gun fascist, so fuck Jill Stein. i'd rather vote for Obama.

What do you think Gary Johnson's economic policy would look like? You ever stop to think about that?

wait, what the hell would Jill Stein's economic policy look like?

Libertarians are great on .... civil rights

well, if it's a civil rights question and Romney and Obama (and fuck it, Stein) all suck on my civil rights issue...

anyway, look, say you vote for Johnson and SOMEHOW JOHNSON WINS. it's still going to be Johnson versus a Congress who won't let him do anything CRAZY.

Thanks for saving me the time. Gary Johnson isn't perfect but at a minimum, at least I wouldn't worry about the drunken sailor spending that will ruin this country in the future and our taxpayer dollars being spent needlessly around the world in wars as America has citizens struggling right here.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

lmao kingblaze sheeeit cuz, gary johnson? seriously? There something wrong with Jill Stein?

yes, she's a fucking anti-gun fascist, so fuck Jill Stein. i'd rather vote for Obama.

What do you think Gary Johnson's economic policy would look like? You ever stop to think about that?

wait, what the hell would Jill Stein's economic policy look like?

Libertarians are great on .... civil rights

well, if it's a civil rights question and Romney and Obama (and fuck it, Stein) all suck on my civil rights issue...

anyway, look, say you vote for Johnson and SOMEHOW JOHNSON WINS. it's still going to be Johnson versus a Congress who won't let him do anything CRAZY.

Thanks for saving me the time. Gary Johnson isn't perfect but at a minimum, at least I wouldn't worry about the drunken sailor spending that will ruin this country in the future and our taxpayer dollars being spent needlessly around the world in wars as America has citizens struggling right here.

More misinformation..
http://www.nationalmemo.com/watch-what-led-us-to-the-fiscal-cliff/

How did we get from nearly $6 trillion projected surpluses in 2001 to $6 trillion in new debt?

As President Obama and Republican leaders in Congress square off on the debt-cutting measures that could send us over the fiscal cliff, “it’s crucial to remember the source of our deficit and debt. The Center for American Progress’ Michael Linden explains the laws passed during the Bush administration along with the wars and the bad economy over a decade made up 86 percent of the debt we’ve accumulated since 2001. President Obama’s spending and the stimulus are responsible for only 14 percent.

Keep that in mind as Republicans demand concessions from the president and the middle class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LcvLHHMC4iI

 

[kingblaze84]

lmao kingblaze sheeeit cuz, gary johnson? seriously? There something wrong with Jill Stein?

yes, she's a fucking anti-gun fascist, so fuck Jill Stein. i'd rather vote for Obama.

What do you think Gary Johnson's economic policy would look like? You ever stop to think about that?

wait, what the hell would Jill Stein's economic policy look like?

Libertarians are great on .... civil rights

well, if it's a civil rights question and Romney and Obama (and fuck it, Stein) all suck on my civil rights issue...

anyway, look, say you vote for Johnson and SOMEHOW JOHNSON WINS. it's still going to be Johnson versus a Congress who won't let him do anything CRAZY.

Thanks for saving me the time. Gary Johnson isn't perfect but at a minimum, at least I wouldn't worry about the drunken sailor spending that will ruin this country in the future and our taxpayer dollars being spent needlessly around the world in wars as America has citizens struggling right here.

More misinformation..
http://www.nationalmemo.com/watch-what-led-us-to-the-fiscal-cliff/

How did we get from nearly $6 trillion projected surpluses in 2001 to $6 trillion in new debt?

As President Obama and Republican leaders in Congress square off on the debt-cutting measures that could send us over the fiscal cliff, “it’s crucial to remember the source of our deficit and debt. The Center for American Progress’ Michael Linden explains the laws passed during the Bush administration along with the wars and the bad economy over a decade made up 86 percent of the debt we’ve accumulated since 2001. President Obama’s spending and the stimulus are responsible for only 14 percent.

Keep that in mind as Republicans demand concessions from the president and the middle class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LcvLHHMC4iI

If the wars and Bush's laws have made up so much of the debt, why has Obama continued the war in Afghanistan to this very day, and why did he take so fucking long to end the war in Iraq? He's the commander in chief, he can COMMAND the military to withdraw from Afghanistan tomorrow if he wants to. The American people would have his back as well. We're losing in Afghanistan, we shouldn't be there anyway.....blaming Bush for everything is nice and cool, but Obama continuing with Bush's policies isn't smart at all. It's bankrupting the nation, and expanding the Bush tax cuts blew up the debt as well. I'm not gonna pretend to be happy with that.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

lmao kingblaze sheeeit cuz, gary johnson? seriously? There something wrong with Jill Stein?

yes, she's a fucking anti-gun fascist, so fuck Jill Stein. i'd rather vote for Obama.

What do you think Gary Johnson's economic policy would look like? You ever stop to think about that?

wait, what the hell would Jill Stein's economic policy look like?

Libertarians are great on .... civil rights

well, if it's a civil rights question and Romney and Obama (and fuck it, Stein) all suck on my civil rights issue...

anyway, look, say you vote for Johnson and SOMEHOW JOHNSON WINS. it's still going to be Johnson versus a Congress who won't let him do anything CRAZY.

Thanks for saving me the time. Gary Johnson isn't perfect but at a minimum, at least I wouldn't worry about the drunken sailor spending that will ruin this country in the future and our taxpayer dollars being spent needlessly around the world in wars as America has citizens struggling right here.

More misinformation..
http://www.nationalmemo.com/watch-what-led-us-to-the-fiscal-cliff/

How did we get from nearly $6 trillion projected surpluses in 2001 to $6 trillion in new debt?

As President Obama and Republican leaders in Congress square off on the debt-cutting measures that could send us over the fiscal cliff, “it’s crucial to remember the source of our deficit and debt. The Center for American Progress’ Michael Linden explains the laws passed during the Bush administration along with the wars and the bad economy over a decade made up 86 percent of the debt we’ve accumulated since 2001. President Obama’s spending and the stimulus are responsible for only 14 percent.

Keep that in mind as Republicans demand concessions from the president and the middle class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LcvLHHMC4iI

If the wars and Bush's laws have made up so much of the debt, why has Obama continued the war in Afghanistan to this very day, and why did he take so fucking long to end the war in Iraq? He's the commander in chief, he can COMMAND the military to withdraw from Afghanistan tomorrow if he wants to. The American people would have his back as well. We're losing in Afghanistan, we shouldn't be there anyway.....blaming Bush for everything is nice and cool, but Obama continuing with Bush's policies isn't smart at all. It's bankrupting the nation, and expanding the Bush tax cuts blew up the debt as well. I'm not gonna pretend to be happy with that.

As i've pointed out too many times, he's actually spent far less then most presidents. His continuation of Afghanistan has nothing to do with the numbers that you keep ignoring. Blaming Bush for the things he's actually responsible for is what I'm doing whether you want to ignore facts or not. If you keep stating misinformation regarding spending, i will keep pointing out the truth of the matter. Btw, Obama has claimed his part of the expenditures that he continued from the Bush era even though some policies were forced through by threatening unemployment which you seem to have no issue with. Afghanistan was an attempt to take responsibility for a mess you caused by helping a people create a defense which the last president ignored (oops there i go again). Still that has shit all to do with the erroneous debt you keep putting putting on Obama.

 

[kingblaze84]

lmao kingblaze sheeeit cuz, gary johnson? seriously? There something wrong with Jill Stein?

yes, she's a fucking anti-gun fascist, so fuck Jill Stein. i'd rather vote for Obama.

What do you think Gary Johnson's economic policy would look like? You ever stop to think about that?

wait, what the hell would Jill Stein's economic policy look like?

Libertarians are great on .... civil rights

well, if it's a civil rights question and Romney and Obama (and fuck it, Stein) all suck on my civil rights issue...

anyway, look, say you vote for Johnson and SOMEHOW JOHNSON WINS. it's still going to be Johnson versus a Congress who won't let him do anything CRAZY.

Thanks for saving me the time. Gary Johnson isn't perfect but at a minimum, at least I wouldn't worry about the drunken sailor spending that will ruin this country in the future and our taxpayer dollars being spent needlessly around the world in wars as America has citizens struggling right here.

More misinformation..
http://www.nationalmemo.com/watch-what-led-us-to-the-fiscal-cliff/

How did we get from nearly $6 trillion projected surpluses in 2001 to $6 trillion in new debt?

As President Obama and Republican leaders in Congress square off on the debt-cutting measures that could send us over the fiscal cliff, “it’s crucial to remember the source of our deficit and debt. The Center for American Progress’ Michael Linden explains the laws passed during the Bush administration along with the wars and the bad economy over a decade made up 86 percent of the debt we’ve accumulated since 2001. President Obama’s spending and the stimulus are responsible for only 14 percent.

Keep that in mind as Republicans demand concessions from the president and the middle class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LcvLHHMC4iI

If the wars and Bush's laws have made up so much of the debt, why has Obama continued the war in Afghanistan to this very day, and why did he take so fucking long to end the war in Iraq? He's the commander in chief, he can COMMAND the military to withdraw from Afghanistan tomorrow if he wants to. The American people would have his back as well. We're losing in Afghanistan, we shouldn't be there anyway.....blaming Bush for everything is nice and cool, but Obama continuing with Bush's policies isn't smart at all. It's bankrupting the nation, and expanding the Bush tax cuts blew up the debt as well. I'm not gonna pretend to be happy with that.

As i've pointed out too many times, he's actually spent far less then most presidents. His continuation of Afghanistan has nothing to do with the numbers that you keep ignoring. Blaming Bush for the things he's actually responsible for is what I'm doing whether you want to ignore facts or not. If you keep stating misinformation regarding spending, i will keep pointing out the truth of the matter. Btw, Obama has claimed his part of the expenditures that he continued from the Bush era even though some policies were forced through by threatening unemployment which you seem to have no issue with. Afghanistan was an attempt to take responsibility for a mess you caused by helping a people create a defense which the last president ignored (oops there i go again). Still that has shit all to do with the erroneous debt you keep putting putting on Obama.

The Bush tax cuts contributed a lot to our current debt, and so is the war in Afghanistan which most people want done by now, these are not minor parts of the debt. He also took too long to end the war in Iraq, THESE are the issues that piss me off about Obama, whether Bush is mostly to blame or not, Obama has not been responsible with the nation's money supply. He should have fired Ben Bernanke a long time ago, he's printing money like there is no tmw and meanwhile, the worth of the dollar continues to become less and less. Is Obama's spending compared to Bush as bad, NO, I have stated this before. But considering the massive 16 trillion in debt this nation has, continuing a failed war in Afghanistan and extending the Bush tax cuts only helped to push America's future from bad to borderline catastrophic. Let's talk about Obama's spending and leave Bush out of this for a second, I already know Bush was a disaster. Obama has not been responsible spending money, 2 billion a week in Afghanistan is NOT fucking responsible when America has so many damn issues here.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

lmao kingblaze sheeeit cuz, gary johnson? seriously? There something wrong with Jill Stein?

yes, she's a fucking anti-gun fascist, so fuck Jill Stein. i'd rather vote for Obama.

What do you think Gary Johnson's economic policy would look like? You ever stop to think about that?

wait, what the hell would Jill Stein's economic policy look like?

Libertarians are great on .... civil rights

well, if it's a civil rights question and Romney and Obama (and fuck it, Stein) all suck on my civil rights issue...

anyway, look, say you vote for Johnson and SOMEHOW JOHNSON WINS. it's still going to be Johnson versus a Congress who won't let him do anything CRAZY.

Thanks for saving me the time. Gary Johnson isn't perfect but at a minimum, at least I wouldn't worry about the drunken sailor spending that will ruin this country in the future and our taxpayer dollars being spent needlessly around the world in wars as America has citizens struggling right here.

More misinformation..
http://www.nationalmemo.com/watch-what-led-us-to-the-fiscal-cliff/

How did we get from nearly $6 trillion projected surpluses in 2001 to $6 trillion in new debt?

As President Obama and Republican leaders in Congress square off on the debt-cutting measures that could send us over the fiscal cliff, “it’s crucial to remember the source of our deficit and debt. The Center for American Progress’ Michael Linden explains the laws passed during the Bush administration along with the wars and the bad economy over a decade made up 86 percent of the debt we’ve accumulated since 2001. President Obama’s spending and the stimulus are responsible for only 14 percent.

Keep that in mind as Republicans demand concessions from the president and the middle class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LcvLHHMC4iI

If the wars and Bush's laws have made up so much of the debt, why has Obama continued the war in Afghanistan to this very day, and why did he take so fucking long to end the war in Iraq? He's the commander in chief, he can COMMAND the military to withdraw from Afghanistan tomorrow if he wants to. The American people would have his back as well. We're losing in Afghanistan, we shouldn't be there anyway.....blaming Bush for everything is nice and cool, but Obama continuing with Bush's policies isn't smart at all. It's bankrupting the nation, and expanding the Bush tax cuts blew up the debt as well. I'm not gonna pretend to be happy with that.

As i've pointed out too many times, he's actually spent far less then most presidents. His continuation of Afghanistan has nothing to do with the numbers that you keep ignoring. Blaming Bush for the things he's actually responsible for is what I'm doing whether you want to ignore facts or not. If you keep stating misinformation regarding spending, i will keep pointing out the truth of the matter. Btw, Obama has claimed his part of the expenditures that he continued from the Bush era even though some policies were forced through by threatening unemployment which you seem to have no issue with. Afghanistan was an attempt to take responsibility for a mess you caused by helping a people create a defense which the last president ignored (oops there i go again). Still that has shit all to do with the erroneous debt you keep putting putting on Obama.

The Bush tax cuts contributed a lot to our current debt, and so is the war in Afghanistan which most people want done by now, these are not minor parts of the debt. He also took too long to end the war in Iraq, THESE are the issues that piss me off about Obama, whether Bush is mostly to blame or not, Obama has not been responsible with the nation's money supply. He should have fired Ben Bernanke a long time ago, he's printing money like there is no tmw and meanwhile, the worth of the dollar continues to become less and less. Is Obama's spending compared to Bush as bad, NO, I have stated this before. But considering the massive 16 trillion in debt this nation has, continuing a failed war in Afghanistan and extending the Bush tax cuts only helped to push America's future from bad to borderline catastrophic. Let's talk about Obama's spending and leave Bush out of this for a second, I already know Bush was a disaster. Obama has not been responsible spending money, 2 billion a week in Afghanistan is NOT fucking responsible when America has so many damn issues here.

It's not just not as bad, it's not even close. Also, you still ignored why the Bush taxes were extended in the face of hostage negotiation. You also ignored the fact that the Afghanistan war was going to be continued when you cast your vote for him the first time even though he mentioned that as a goal. America's future was bought down to bad when it was already approaching borderline catastrophic. Obama saved this country from a depression that could have been far worse and most of the money he spent was on stimulating our economy by investing in America. The war spending was already allocated.
http://csis.org/publication/us-cost-afghan-war-fy2002-fy2013

The resulting figures provide important insights for “transition.” They show the scale of past US efforts, how the aid has been allocated, and the differences between the total aid appropriated during the course of the war, the amount obligated (around 60% of the amount appropriated), and the amount actually disbursed (around 45% of the appropriation).

The dollar dropped in value because Bush policies, and congressional inaction. But it's all Obama's fault for not shitting on the constitution by sidelining congress right? We are approaching yet another hostage negotiation with he fiscal cliff with Congress ready to hold hostages once again. Congress is not only playing games with our debt, but they aren't passing legislation to solve that problem. But of course the God Obama should wave his magic wand and smite them i suppose.

 

[kingblaze84]

Furiousone......

I am very aware the Bush tax cuts were extended, according to Obama, to protect unemployment insurance. Here is the problem with that though, IT BLEW UP THE DEBT. I do sympathize with those who are unemployed and need the unemployment insurance, but spending our grand children's future is not the answer. Extending the Bush tax cuts was way too expensive and so is the war in Afghanistan. From your own link, it states that the bulk of the Afghan war spending was ALLOCATED IN 2009, when Obama was prez.....and yes I did vote for Obama in 2008 but I expected him to use common sense when it comes to war spending, considering how badly we are in debt. Joe Biden wanted less forces used, while Obama foolishly chose Hilary Clinton's path of increasing the amount of troops in there. As the link states:

The bulk of the total spending and aid has been allocated since FY2009, and came after the insurgency had reached high levels. It is a clear case of too much, too late.

IN EITHER CASE, Obama signed the contract with the corrupt prez of Afghanistan that states American troops will be in Afghanistan until about 2025, this is a fucking disaster because it means troops will be shot at there for another 13 years at least. WTF was Obama thinking signing that contract? And making matters worse, Obama still doesn't have a real plan to fix the economy, aside from MORE deficit spending lol.....he needs to tell the feds to stop cracking down on medical marijuana and recreational marijuana in states that have it legalized. Until than, I won't pretend to like Obama's policies, although I do applaud him for not being as bad as Romney, which isn't saying much.

 

[kingblaze84]

A great article I think Obama and pretty much everyone should read....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/doug-bandow/the-most-important-electi_b_2135085.html

Here is a part of it.....

Over Washington's steadfast opposition 17 states eliminated penalties for use of marijuana as a medical treatment: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont. The District of Columbia did so as well. Last week voters in Massachusetts and Montana approved medical marijuana initiatives while one in Arkansas barely failed, winning 49 percent of the vote.

The federal government resisted all of these efforts. Various "drug czars" have wandered the nation campaigning against both legislative proposals and popular initiatives to relax legal penalties. And presidents have pursued the Drug War with full ferocity, shutting down marijuana dispensaries legal under state law and threatening landlords who rent to pot suppliers. Even one-time druggie Barack Obama sacrificed his liberal principles to toss people in jail for doing what he did when he was their age.

This policy is impossible to defend in a free society. Marijuana smoking is unhealthy. So is cigarette smoking. And alcohol use. And eating sugar. People who ride motorcycles, climb mountains and hang glide sometimes die. Every day life involves varying risks and trade-offs. Such judgments are best left with individuals and families, not the government, whether federal or state.

---Let's hope there will come a day when Obama and others can stop being a slave to pharmaceutical companies. Time to improve the American economy and stop thinking in the past.

 

[ShencotheMC]

lol this dude Kingblaze hates Obama's guts. At what point did he spit in your cereal my g?

 

[janklow]

Also, you still ignored why the Bush taxes were extended in the face of hostage negotiation.

the vast majority of the Bush tax cuts are not cuts Obama is in theory opposed to, since he maintains he wants to repeal only the ones that apply to the highest earners. so does he not deserve "credit" for the ones he actively wants to keep?

 

[kingblaze84]

lol this dude Kingblaze hates Obama's guts. At what point did he spit in your cereal my g?

Don't hate anyone lol but yeah I really don't like many of his policies.....

 

[Jabu_Rule]

Also, you still ignored why the Bush taxes were extended in the face of hostage negotiation.

the vast majority of the Bush tax cuts are not cuts Obama is in theory opposed to, since he maintains he wants to repeal only the ones that apply to the highest earners. so does he not deserve "credit" for the ones he actively wants to keep?

Yes, i have to remember to say 'Tax cuts for the Rich'.. But i do recall Obama increasing tax cuts for Middle class with the stimulus, so he already claimed those as his own.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

Furiousone......

I am very aware the Bush tax cuts were extended, according to Obama, to protect unemployment insurance. Here is the problem with that though, IT BLEW UP THE DEBT. I do sympathize with those who are unemployed and need the unemployment insurance, but spending our grand children's future is not the answer. Extending the Bush tax cuts was way too expensive and so is the war in Afghanistan. From your own link, it states that the bulk of the Afghan war spending was ALLOCATED IN 2009, when Obama was prez.....and yes I did vote for Obama in 2008 but I expected him to use common sense when it comes to war spending, considering how badly we are in debt. Joe Biden wanted less forces used, while Obama foolishly chose Hilary Clinton's path of increasing the amount of troops in there. As the link states:

The bulk of the total spending and aid has been allocated since FY2009, and came after the insurgency had reached high levels. It is a clear case of too much, too late.

IN EITHER CASE, Obama signed the contract with the corrupt prez of Afghanistan that states American troops will be in Afghanistan until about 2025, this is a fucking disaster because it means troops will be shot at there for another 13 years at least. WTF was Obama thinking signing that contract? And making matters worse, Obama still doesn't have a real plan to fix the economy, aside from MORE deficit spending lol.....he needs to tell the feds to stop cracking down on medical marijuana and recreational marijuana in states that have it legalized. Until than, I won't pretend to like Obama's policies, although I do applaud him for not being as bad as Romney, which isn't saying much.

If you give me an alternative way that Obama could have gotten around the Bush tax cuts for the Rich, then i'll agree that he could have done something beyond his constitutional powers that wouldn't cause a scandal. Those were still pre-allocated funds regardless. It also indicates a return to the core focus of why we were there in the fist place. The fact that we were asked for help by a corrupt official (as opposed to the school girl murdering Taliban), and didn't roll in there as liberators half cocked, is a plus. I have no problem with aiding in stabilizing a country we destroyed at a reduced cost. Bottom line, he said he would increase the troops and did and you voted with that knowledge.

We have to worry about our future relatives and ourselves currently and both can be done. Our future relatives will have to do the same and we have survived as a species regardless economic setbacks. It's already been proven that Obama's stimulus and other measures helped the economy. He didn't say anything about weed yet, but I'm hoping on the same things you are. Making it legal to eliminate the violence and prison time is my only concern.

There are many ways to stimulate the economy and 4 years is hardly going to eliminate the damage of the Great Recession which is why the stimulus was enacted in the first place. Letting certain business fail all at once, and putting unemployment dollars at risk would only exacerbate our economic woes far more then the Bush taxes for the Rich.

 

[kingblaze84]

Furiousone......

I am very aware the Bush tax cuts were extended, according to Obama, to protect unemployment insurance. Here is the problem with that though, IT BLEW UP THE DEBT. I do sympathize with those who are unemployed and need the unemployment insurance, but spending our grand children's future is not the answer. Extending the Bush tax cuts was way too expensive and so is the war in Afghanistan. From your own link, it states that the bulk of the Afghan war spending was ALLOCATED IN 2009, when Obama was prez.....and yes I did vote for Obama in 2008 but I expected him to use common sense when it comes to war spending, considering how badly we are in debt. Joe Biden wanted less forces used, while Obama foolishly chose Hilary Clinton's path of increasing the amount of troops in there. As the link states:

The bulk of the total spending and aid has been allocated since FY2009, and came after the insurgency had reached high levels. It is a clear case of too much, too late.

IN EITHER CASE, Obama signed the contract with the corrupt prez of Afghanistan that states American troops will be in Afghanistan until about 2025, this is a fucking disaster because it means troops will be shot at there for another 13 years at least. WTF was Obama thinking signing that contract? And making matters worse, Obama still doesn't have a real plan to fix the economy, aside from MORE deficit spending lol.....he needs to tell the feds to stop cracking down on medical marijuana and recreational marijuana in states that have it legalized. Until than, I won't pretend to like Obama's policies, although I do applaud him for not being as bad as Romney, which isn't saying much.

If you give me an alternative way that Obama could have gotten around the Bush tax cuts for the Rich, then i'll agree that he could have done something beyond his constitutional powers that wouldn't cause a scandal. Those were still pre-allocated funds regardless. It also indicates a return to the core focus of why we were there in the fist place. The fact that we were asked for help by a corrupt official (as opposed to the school girl murdering Taliban), and didn't roll in there as liberators half cocked, is a plus. I have no problem with aiding in stabilizing a country we destroyed at a reduced cost. Bottom line, he said he would increase the troops and did and you voted with that knowledge.

We have to worry about our future relatives and ourselves currently and both can be done. Our future relatives will have to do the same and we have survived as a species regardless economic setbacks. It's already been proven that Obama's stimulus and other measures helped the economy. He didn't say anything about weed yet, but I'm hoping on the same things you are. Making it legal to eliminate the violence and prison time is my only concern.

There are many ways to stimulate the economy and 4 years is hardly going to eliminate the damage of the Great Recession which is why the stimulus was enacted in the first place. Letting certain business fail all at once, and putting unemployment dollars at risk would only exacerbate our economic woes far more then the Bush taxes for the Rich.

He said he would increase the troops in Afghanistan but AGAIN, he should have used common sense when it comes to Afghanistan, Joe Biden suggested decreasing troops and increasing special forces to root out the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. We now see Obama's policy in Afghanistan is failing completely, little to no good is going on there now. If you tell me things in Afghanistan are going well I will respectfully end this conversation. We will never agree when it comes to the waste of time known as the Afghan war, most Americans want us out of there now anyway, it's time to listen to the people and end it. It's obvious we won't agree on this issue LOL, no one will ever convince me the war is worth being fought, it started off as a good fight but we've obviously overstayed our welcome. It's too fucking expensive and it's one of the reasons Obama got 10 million less votes compared to 2008.

As far as the Bush tax cuts, Obama should not have caved in, you see how hard a time Republicans are giving him now right? Once they saw him cave on that, they figured he'd cave like a bitch again, and I'm willing to bet he will again. The Bush tax cuts were set to expire, and Democrats were ready to let it expire but Obama caving in just made the debt worse.

In regards to marijuana, I'm glad you agree with me on that. Why do you think Obama is such a coward on this issue?

 

[Jabu_Rule]

Furiousone......

I am very aware the Bush tax cuts were extended, according to Obama, to protect unemployment insurance. Here is the problem with that though, IT BLEW UP THE DEBT. I do sympathize with those who are unemployed and need the unemployment insurance, but spending our grand children's future is not the answer. Extending the Bush tax cuts was way too expensive and so is the war in Afghanistan. From your own link, it states that the bulk of the Afghan war spending was ALLOCATED IN 2009, when Obama was prez.....and yes I did vote for Obama in 2008 but I expected him to use common sense when it comes to war spending, considering how badly we are in debt. Joe Biden wanted less forces used, while Obama foolishly chose Hilary Clinton's path of increasing the amount of troops in there. As the link states:

The bulk of the total spending and aid has been allocated since FY2009, and came after the insurgency had reached high levels. It is a clear case of too much, too late.

IN EITHER CASE, Obama signed the contract with the corrupt prez of Afghanistan that states American troops will be in Afghanistan until about 2025, this is a fucking disaster because it means troops will be shot at there for another 13 years at least. WTF was Obama thinking signing that contract? And making matters worse, Obama still doesn't have a real plan to fix the economy, aside from MORE deficit spending lol.....he needs to tell the feds to stop cracking down on medical marijuana and recreational marijuana in states that have it legalized. Until than, I won't pretend to like Obama's policies, although I do applaud him for not being as bad as Romney, which isn't saying much.

If you give me an alternative way that Obama could have gotten around the Bush tax cuts for the Rich, then i'll agree that he could have done something beyond his constitutional powers that wouldn't cause a scandal. Those were still pre-allocated funds regardless. It also indicates a return to the core focus of why we were there in the fist place. The fact that we were asked for help by a corrupt official (as opposed to the school girl murdering Taliban), and didn't roll in there as liberators half cocked, is a plus. I have no problem with aiding in stabilizing a country we destroyed at a reduced cost. Bottom line, he said he would increase the troops and did and you voted with that knowledge.

We have to worry about our future relatives and ourselves currently and both can be done. Our future relatives will have to do the same and we have survived as a species regardless economic setbacks. It's already been proven that Obama's stimulus and other measures helped the economy. He didn't say anything about weed yet, but I'm hoping on the same things you are. Making it legal to eliminate the violence and prison time is my only concern.

There are many ways to stimulate the economy and 4 years is hardly going to eliminate the damage of the Great Recession which is why the stimulus was enacted in the first place. Letting certain business fail all at once, and putting unemployment dollars at risk would only exacerbate our economic woes far more then the Bush taxes for the Rich.

He said he would increase the troops in Afghanistan but AGAIN, he should have used common sense when it comes to Afghanistan, Joe Biden suggested decreasing troops and increasing special forces to root out the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. We now see Obama's policy in Afghanistan is failing completely, little to no good is going on there now. If you tell me things in Afghanistan are going well I will respectfully end this conversation. We will never agree when it comes to the waste of time known as the Afghan war, most Americans want us out of there now anyway, it's time to listen to the people and end it. It's obvious we won't agree on this issue LOL, no one will ever convince me the war is worth being fought, it started off as a good fight but we've obviously overstayed our welcome. It's too fucking expensive and it's one of the reasons Obama got 10 million less votes compared to 2008.

As far as the Bush tax cuts, Obama should not have caved in, you see how hard a time Republicans are giving him now right? Once they saw him cave on that, they figured he'd cave like a bitch again, and I'm willing to bet he will again. The Bush tax cuts were set to expire, and Democrats were ready to let it expire but Obama caving in just made the debt worse.

In regards to marijuana, I'm glad you agree with me on that. Why do you think Obama is such a coward on this issue?

I know you will never agree with a war against an enemy that attacked our people and a group that harbored them and would allow them free reign to plot again. I think that this is a long game that is meant to aid in growing the stabilization of Afghanistan with far less American troops. I ask again, what could Obama or the outnumbered democrats do to avoid millions of people loosing their unemployment vs tax cuts that while bad, wouldn't cause nearly as much damage?

I think Obama may just not like Marijuana if you can believe that. He was a young college student when he last smoked so his ideals aren't the same. His evidence seems to be the increasing potency of marijuana which has risk for addiction. If not physical, mental addiction and potential mental damage is real especially with these higher grades. I've seen people in support groups for marijuana because something has them attached and that shit is an expensive habit. I smoke and would like to see social programs to combat mental addiction rather then criminal penalty. It's nowhere as dangerous as other drugs so i hate when people attempt to say legalize it all like motherfuckers should be allowed to buy crack over the counter.